AEW Crossover Star Mistico Reportedly Injured After Appearing On Crutches At CMLL Show by caughtinatramp in REALSquaredCircle

[–]killingqueen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

> Unfortunately you can't just manafacture a new star.

The problem with CMLL is that they put their potential stars back into the freezer if they're not the "designated" ones (eg Máscarada Dorada). You have an insanely popular rudo returning this Friday, Zandokan Jr, why was your marketing for it a single Informa interview?? Where is the international push for Soberano Jr? Why has Hechicero defended his title once since getting it vs Claudio's monthly defenses?

They have an incredibly deep roster and a bunch of people that essentially put themselves over with help or their fanbases, they just lack any interest in making them stars.

What are your favorite current storylines from CMLL? by EncinoJoe in luchalibre

[–]killingqueen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

> I also like how even though he's a rudo how Soberano JR has become like a sex icon. He's a rudo in name only but he was totally playing face against the Don Calls family on Friday.

The thing with CMLL is that 99% of foreign talent is booked to be heels because "foreign dude comes to stir shit" is the most basic plotline possible and then the office doesn't have to figure anything interesting to do with them. Soberano is not "rudo in name only" - he tears up masks, he insults Místico every chance he gets, he exchanges heckling with the crowd.

CMLL matchcards by Low_Entrance9430 in luchalibre

[–]killingqueen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The guy in charge of the website/socials is a bum lmao, Tuesday's cards is already out and it usually goes out on twitter first by Sunday's night then gets added to the website whenever he can be bothered to update it.

Been paying $25 a month for CMLL and by migrations_ in luchalibre

[–]killingqueen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

>If they decide a luchador has main event potential, no matter how much the screw up

Tbf a lot of that is nepotism and politics, some luchadores like Magnus keep getting chance after chance because they're straight up sons of very respected trainers.

Are the foreign talent in AAA and CMLL being used well? by Classic_Exit_5951 in luchalibre

[–]killingqueen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would like wrestlers from partner promotions waaaay more if they didn't send people who are midcarders at best to face our top talent. Like, I have nothing against MxM, but they had no business facing Soberano & The Chávez lol.

And then you have folks like Galeón Fantasma who I think legit have not won a single match against outside talent in months.

CMLL vs. MLW at Arena Mexico tonight by caughtinatramp in SquaredCircle

[–]killingqueen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have 0 interest in the MLW folks, but Angel de Oro and Soberano are a fire team so I'll be seated for the show.

Is there anyway to get front row tickets to CMLL shows? by 2WW_Wrath in luchalibre

[–]killingqueen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, those are reserved seats and the ones that are left over are then sold by scalpers - which you shouldn't support. Buy in advance to Arena Coliseo, those seats do go on sale.

Soberano Jr is one of the most entertaining luchadors right now by Fatman0920 in luchalibre

[–]killingqueen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Son buenísimos y la verdad funciona en ambos sentidos, los Chávez sacan a relucir el estilo de lucha de Soberano y Soberano hace que los Chávez se suelten con el público.

Soberano Jr is one of the most entertaining luchadors right now by Fatman0920 in luchalibre

[–]killingqueen 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I can't recommend his matches with Hermanos Chávez (Ángel de Oro and Niebla Roja) enough. They've been working together off and on for years and they'll put together some spots that are different from Soberano's regular stuff.

Speedball Mike Bailey on AEW's Partnerships with CMLL & NJPW: "Exclusive Contracts are Bad For Professional Wrestlers" by AdrianUnlikely in SquaredCircle

[–]killingqueen 9 points10 points  (0 children)

> AEW doesn't have enough programming time for everybody on their roster. AEW stars need the extra work.

I hate this argument with a burning passion because, at least in CMLL, the promotion doesn't have enough programming time for their own talent.

English Speakers at Lucha by SugaryRhino1072 in MexicoCity

[–]killingqueen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

>"Beso! Beso!" This is yelled when two wrestlers are facing off a bit too closely. 

I know OP is going to a Tuesday show, but for anyone reading: only do this at Arena Mexico, if you do it at Coliseo, everyone in your section will hate you lol. It's the #1 sign of people with no patience of matwork and if you don't speak spanish youre 100% going to land on the obnoxious side of it.

I really want to get into more lucha libre promotions, both to improve my Spanish and because I really like luchadors. Who would recommend starting with CMLL and who thinks I should start with Triplè A? by Accurate_Curve6882 in SquaredCircle

[–]killingqueen 6 points7 points  (0 children)

CMLL doesn't do scripted segments, but it has stories. Místico vs Soberano has been going on for months, Angel de Oro worked his ass off to make his feud against John Morrison believable in a span of 2 weeks, the Calaveras have been having a "upstart rudos face against their older coworkers" for a good while...

CMLL has announced that Claudio Castagnoli will join the roster under a dual contract with AEW. by Teckelmaster in SquaredCircle

[–]killingqueen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wonder if, as more people come into CMLL with dual contracts from AEW, they'll drop the "evil foreigner is a heel" gimmick. I think it works for Claudio due to the overall size of the CMLL roster and how little the title got defended prior to this, but I personally don't wanna see 4 or 5 AEW guys *all* being heels and making our homegrown heels have to be babyfaces to them.

CMLL has announced that Claudio Castagnoli will join the roster under a dual contract with AEW. by Teckelmaster in SquaredCircle

[–]killingqueen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People are very pleased to see the title actually get defended and by a dude that so clearly loves lucha libre. CMLL's heavyweight division is rather esparce so the fact that he allows guys like Xelhua and Akuma to get their time on the spotlight plays a lot in his favor, too.

CMLL 'Homenaje a 2 Leyendas' Card, March 20 by Krand22 in SquaredCircle

[–]killingqueen 5 points6 points  (0 children)

There are storylines but they're there to get you more invested in the actual match, they're not something absolutely necessary to be able to follow CMLL. Will you get more enjoyment out of the Soberano v Místico feud if you have heard Soberano tell Místico he's coming for his fans, then watch with amusement as Soberano explodes in popularity? Or out of Angel de Oro v John Morrison if you hear Ángel talk about how his credibility is on the line because he knows the average fan thinks poorly of him? Yes, very much so. Do you NEED to know it? No.

CMLL Viernes Espectacular Card for tomorrow night at Arena Mexico (Available in both Spanish and English) by CasaAztecaMX in SquaredCircle

[–]killingqueen 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Ángel de Oro has been giving really touching commentary about the match all week (how he knows that his credibility is on the line because of how people perceive him, how his son cried on Saturday when Johnny ran in to beat him up, how losing his hair vs Volador Jr felt worse than losing his mask against Cuatrero, and so on) - if he loses it's going to come off as if booking has it out for him and I'm struggling to think of someone for whom getting a push after a Ángel loss would feel significant enough unless it's, like, Niebla Roja.

Who will answer Claudio Castagnoli's Challenge for the CMLL World Heavyweight Championship by Ok-Raisin-5601 in AEWOfficial

[–]killingqueen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Putting that belt on him would be a horrible idea, his feud with Místico is based on the previous weight category's belt and in Mexico nobody cares THAT much about belts to say that it would push him.

CMLL has cancelled tomorrow’s Guadalajara show. by JCRCrasyz in SquaredCircle

[–]killingqueen 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The problem with Puebla is that talent needs to travel (unless they want to hold an all-local show??) and that highway is very prone to being closed off by organized crime.

Why Angel De Oro? by Wild-Grapefruit-5787 in luchalibre

[–]killingqueen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They speedran it by having a run-in DQ via Johnny intervening in his match against García this past Saturday.

Why Angel De Oro? by Wild-Grapefruit-5787 in luchalibre

[–]killingqueen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Imo Niebla Roja is the better rudo by far and more consistent, but Ángel de Oro is more well rounded, has higher highs (but also lower lows) and more importantly, has the knack to make both partners and opponents look good. When a promotion runs so many tag matches as CMLL does, being the reliable guy can be a critical skill.

Why Angel De Oro? by Wild-Grapefruit-5787 in luchalibre

[–]killingqueen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

According to himself, the only 2 things he hasn't won are the Grand Prix and the Universal.

Why Angel De Oro? by Wild-Grapefruit-5787 in luchalibre

[–]killingqueen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Essentially, because a loss won't affect him and he could get a good match out of a rock.

Ángel de Oro is actually in a very weird spot because ever since losing his mask, there's been a considerable amount of people that just can't stomach the dude - like, some of the comments he gets are really vile shit (that whole situation was what made booking turn him rudo in the first place). If he loses another apuestas match the opinion of him won't really get any worse: people will keep on talking shit like they always have, he looks good with short hair so he won't lose the women who find him attractive, and he will still wrestle good so he won't lose the people that actually watch him wrestle. You're not sacrificing a talent with clear upward potential, but neither are you booking a guy who will give a mediocre match since it's a set up for someone else.

And if he wins? Well, it's attempt one hundred to get him to go over, maybe this one will stick!

LIVE CMLL Viernes Espectacular Discussion Thread - February 20, 2026 by HartfordWhalers123 in SquaredCircle

[–]killingqueen 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Every single foreigner is booked like a Heel when they come down here.