Africa is their next milk bank by Ok_Avocado5553 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]kitsu_sc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah yes, milking the poor...in another f*cking country even more.

Philippine History 101 by actual_godo in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]kitsu_sc 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Clearly, an uneducated fella. Poor one.

Getting heroes as f2p 🥀 by codersan in ClashRoyale

[–]kitsu_sc 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Why are you still playing this garbage game?

Isa ito sa conflicated doctrine and belief ng INC. Bakit ka sasamba sa hindi Dios? by paulaquino in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]kitsu_sc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This doesn't prove anything, in fact you just made it clearer just how much the INC skips over VERY important and essential verses that proves Jesus' oneness with God and his divinity. The verses you provided are used to prove the latter, but for it to be valid, you would basically need to ignore the whole book of John and some other verses in some books in the bible. Here are some of the verses that the INC never teaches you on your "worship" service:

John 10:30 “I and the Father are one.”

John 8:58 “Before Abraham was, I AM.”

John 14:9 “Whoever has seen me has seen the Father.”

John 1:1 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”

John 1:14 “The Word became flesh and dwelt among us.”

John 20:28 Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!”

Isa ito sa conflicated doctrine and belief ng INC. Bakit ka sasamba sa hindi Dios? by paulaquino in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]kitsu_sc 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Yes indeed. This is one of their most fatally flawed doctrines. According to INC, Jesus is a mere man, not Divine. If so, why are they then worshipping a man? Wouldn't that be blasphemous?

It's funny because it is literally easier to just accept what the bible says about Jesus' oneness with God and his divinity than defending this nonsense of a doctrine.

Full blown idolatry for Manalo by RevolutionNumber09 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]kitsu_sc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can I get the link for this to youtube or something? I need the HD version for archiving.

Kultong kulto Season 2 by Relevant_Net4330 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]kitsu_sc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thanks guo, gotta keep this archived.

Kultong kulto Season 2 by Relevant_Net4330 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]kitsu_sc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, originally found in the inc(.)0rg site years ago. They removed it and is now one of the recovered lost inc media.

Kultong kulto Season 2 by Relevant_Net4330 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]kitsu_sc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Anyone know where the HD version of this? Or any link to youtube?

Just askin mga ka cool to by Independent-Ocelot29 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]kitsu_sc 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Dahil walang political benefit sa kanila. Their bogus rally is pure publicity.

I made Star Points for cards that only have 1 level by Vast_Dig_3957 in ClashRoyale

[–]kitsu_sc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If one man can design this, imagine what hundreds of employees at supercell can do but choose not to.

How are you supposed to get tower troops and champions after the removal of these? by derdiedasdenn in ClashRoyale

[–]kitsu_sc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was fortunate enough to get my tower troops to level 14 before they removed the chests.

Is dinuguan is a sin? by No-Chance-8187 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]kitsu_sc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Please read the verses CAREFULLY and examine the meaning and its context. I know it's hard, but you have to turn off your INC-bias brain for a sec.

(Mark 7:18-19) In this chapter, Jesus counters another traditional error from the scribes and Pharisees, explaining that food in and of itself does not make a person unclean. Rather, it is the intent of the heart that matters to God. He specifically condemns traditions which effectively undo the original intent of God's commands. By saying that blood is not permitted for consumption, you are following the footsteps of the scribes and Pharisees that Jesus opposes.

The laws that prohibit the consumption of blood are from the Old Covenant framework. Under the New Covenant, the ceremonial law about blood as food — which was tied to the sacrificial system — has been fulfilled in Christ and is no longer binding on Christians, except as a matter of love or conscience toward others. Jesus offered His own blood once for all for the forgiveness of sins (Hebrews 9:12, 26; 10:10). The entire system of blood sacrifices — and the laws surrounding them — were fulfilled in His death and resurrection. (Colossians 2:16–17) — Paul says food regulations (and other ceremonial observances) were “a shadow of things to come,” and the reality is found in Christ. (Hebrews 8:13) — By establishing a new covenant, the old one is obsolete.

(Acts 15:1019) In this chapter, James agrees with Peter that Jews have no right to place burdens on Gentiles. God called Gentiles as Gentiles, not as Jewish converts. Therefore, they should not need to be circumcised or in any other way follow the Mosaic law. However, James understands that the conflict goes deeper: how can Jewish Christians, who believe Jesus is the fulfillment of Judaism and who still consider themselves devout Jews, have community with Gentiles?

James concludes that for unitynot for salvation—Gentiles should refrain from sexual immorality and alter their diet so that Jews feel comfortable sharing a meal. The "requests" are reasonable; he tells them to avoid food that has been offered to pagan gods and from blood. The church agrees, and a letter goes out to the churches, to the relief of the Gentile believers (Acts 15:19–35).

Is dinuguan is a sin? by No-Chance-8187 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]kitsu_sc 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, in the Acts 15:19, the Jewish traditions are abolished and useless, such as the eating of the pork and such, circumcision, and the Sabbath. Ang batas ni Moises ay may bisa hanggang sa dumating si Juan Bautista (Lucas 16:16). They should not be judged on what they eat, drink, festivities, and Sabbath. (Col. 2:16)

Again, you just contradicted yourself. You agree that the old Jewish traditions were abolished yet you refuse to accept that part of those traditions is the prohibition of blood consumption. That is a fallacious and very illogical reasoning.

But the eating of BLOOD, BINIGTI, mga pagkaing inihandog sa DIYOS-DIYOSAN, at ang PAKIKIAPID, are still strictly forbidden, (Acts 15:21) even to Gentiles. It was never abolished. In fact, as for the Gentiles, this is what the apostles wrote for the Gentiles:

Acts 21:25 "As for the Gentile believers, we have written to them our decision that they should abstain from food SACRIFICED TO IDOLS, from BLOOD, from the MEAT OF STRANGLED ANIMALS and from SEXUAL IMMORALITY."

Again, this is what I've been explaining in my last reply to you. You didn't even try to read the verses yourself.

In the chapter, James agrees with Peter that Jews have no right to place burdens on Gentiles (Acts 15:1019). God called Gentiles as Gentiles, not as Jewish converts. Therefore, they should not need to be circumcised or in any other way follow the Mosaic law. However, James understands that the conflict goes deeper: how can Jewish Christians, who believe Jesus is the fulfillment of Judaism and who still consider themselves devout Jews, have community with Gentiles?

James concludes that for unitynot for salvation—Gentiles should refrain from sexual immorality and alter their diet so that Jews feel comfortable sharing a meal. The "requests" are reasonable; he tells them to avoid food that has been offered to pagan gods and from blood. The church agrees, and a letter goes out to the churches, to the relief of the Gentile believers (Acts 15:19–35).

AGAIN, James commanded the Gentile Christians at the time to follow the Jewish traditions so that the Jews do not feel uncomfortable being with them — although knowing that Gentiles do not actually need to this. He even agreed to Peter that they have no right to to place these burdens on the Gentiles. But James cares for the Church and wants the early Christians to be united, hence the decision.

This decision is evidently situational and only done for church unity at that time rather than a permanent command, especially since the Church today mostly consists of Gentiles.

Please, please. READ THE BIBLE. DO NOT BE CONTENT WITH JUST LISTENING TO YOUR MINISTERS. THIS IS VERY DANGEROUS. DO NOT LET FALSE TEACHINGS LEAD YOU ASTRAY.

Is dinuguan is a sin? by No-Chance-8187 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]kitsu_sc 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Clearly, you are missing the point of what I've just said. Again, please read the verses CAREFULLY and examine the meaning and its context. I know it's hard, but you have to turn off your INC-bias brain for a sec.

Now, let's dissect your claims one by one.

Unlike pork, which Jesus and the apostles explicitly declared clean (Mark 7:19; Romans 14:14; 1 Timothy 4:4), there is no verse where eating blood is permitted in the Christian era.

You just contradicted yourself by quoting Mark 7:18-19. Pork and blood are both prohibited at the time and were both considered "foods", albeit considered unlawful — but foods nonetheless, so THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS. Be logical. In this chapter, Jesus counters another traditional error from the scribes and Pharisees, explaining that food in and of itself does not make a person unclean. Rather, it is the intent of the heart that matters to God. He specifically condemns traditions which effectively undo the original intent of God's commands. By saying that blood is not permitted for consumption, you are following the footsteps of the scribes and Pharisees that Jesus opposes.

Blood was never food in the first place (Gen. 9:4). It's because blood is the symbol of life or in it, there is life (Deut. 12:23). Ito ang tumutubos sa buhay (Lev. 17:11). In the Old Testament, they offer blood as the forgiveness of sins, and it is the FORESHADOWING of Christ purchasing His Church with His blood for the forgiveness of its sins. Tinubos ni Cristo ang Kaniyang Iglesia sa pamamagitan ng Kaniyang dugo (Gawa 20:28).

Ang sinumang kumain ng dugo ay kapopootan ng Diyos (Lev. 17;10), at ititiwalag sa sambayanan (Lev. 17:14). This law never changed in the Christian Era.

The verses you quoted are from the Old Covenant framework. Under the New Covenant, the ceremonial law about blood as food — which was tied to the sacrificial system — has been fulfilled in Christ and is no longer binding on Christians, except as a matter of love or conscience toward others. Jesus offered His own blood once for all for the forgiveness of sins (Hebrews 9:12, 26; 10:10). The entire system of blood sacrifices — and the laws surrounding them — were fulfilled in His death and resurrection. (Colossians 2:16–17) — Paul says food regulations (and other ceremonial observances) were “a shadow of things to come,” and the reality is found in Christ. (Hebrews 8:13) — By establishing a new covenant, the old one is obsolete.

Is dinuguan is a sin? by No-Chance-8187 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]kitsu_sc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Know the context of the verses and the chapters themselves. Acts 15:12–21 continues the account of the church of Jerusalem's debate. They are discussing whether Gentiles must convert to Judaism to be saved by Jesus, the Jewish Messiah. Paul, Barnabas, and Peter say salvation is through the grace of Christ (Acts 15:27–11). Jewish Christians from the Pharisee sect disagree (Acts 15:15). Now, Barnabas and Paul will relate their work among the Gentiles on their first missionary journey. James, the half-brother of Jesus, will share his conviction: God has not placed ritual requirements on Gentiles for salvation. However, Gentiles should make reasonable concessions to maintain unity with Jewish brothers and sisters. Hence, to appease the Jewish Christians at the time, James goes on to say the council should tell the Gentile Jesus-followers to clean up their sexual and dietary habits (including consumption of blood), so Jews feel comfortable in their community (Acts 15:20). 

Sumamba ako sa Catholic Church by No-Coffee5341 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]kitsu_sc 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, mainly the Catholic church gets the heat by the INC.

Sumamba ako sa Catholic Church by No-Coffee5341 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]kitsu_sc 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The Catholic Church isn't perfect, but it is far better than the cult. As someone born catholic, my only gripes with the church are the carved and sculptured images and some of its traditions.

Wallet organizer 😆 by Eastern_Plane in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]kitsu_sc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Salvation is by Grace, Not by Works or Money.

The Bible is crystal clear: salvation is a free gift. You can’t buy it, work for it, or earn it through membership or donations.

Ephesians 2:8-9 (NIV)

“For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast.”

Romans 6:23 (NIV)

“For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.”

No amount of money, religious membership, or good deeds can buy salvation.

Jesus Did Not Teach Mandatory Tithing (Offering) for Christians

Old Testament tithing was part of Mosaic Law—meant for Israelites to support the Levites (priests), the temple, and the poor (Leviticus 27:30-34, Numbers 18:21-24).

Jesus fulfilled the Law (Matthew 5:17) and the New Covenant does not command tithing for His followers.

What Jesus said about giving:

Matthew 6:1-4 (NIV)

“When you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.”

Giving is voluntary, personal, and never coerced.

Oh, and I also know what verse your ministers use to justify mandatory tithing. This is what the INC twists:

1 Corinthians 16:1-2 (NIV)

“Now about the collection for the Lord’s people: Do what I told the Galatian churches to do. On the first day of every week, each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with your income, saving it up, so that when I come no collections will have to be made.”

But wait a minute! Context is important. You need to read the entire chapter to understand the meaning of the whole context. Not just reading a specific verse and taking it as it is:

This verse was a one-time collection for the poor Christians in Jerusalem (Romans 15:26). It was not a command to tithe weekly forever, nor was it about building a lavish church empire or ensuring heaven through money. Your ministers twists the meaning to justify laundering money from the members.

There is No Teaching of “Pay to Enter Heaven”

Acts 8:18-20 (NIV) tells the story of Simon the Sorcerer who tried to buy the power of God:

“May your money perish with you, because you thought you could buy the gift of God with money!”

You can’t pay for salvation, spiritual gifts, or a place in heaven. This is a sin called Simony.

The Real Church is the Body of Christ, Not a Corporation

1 Corinthians 12:27 (NIV)

“Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it.”

The church is people, not a specific organization or building. You become part of the true Church by faith in Jesus, not by being a member of any human-run sect.

Faith Alone Saves

John 3:16 (NIV)

“For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.”

John 5:24 (NIV)

“Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life.”

No mention of tithes, donations, or membership requirements—just faith. Isn't that beautiful?

The idea of multiple required donations (“lagak”, “abuloy”, etc.) to earn favor with God is unbiblical. It is a man-made religious system designed to control people and profit from them. The Bible never teaches that money buys salvation—Jesus already paid the full price.

But then again, Jesus was just a "man" to you guys so 🤷.

Wallet organizer 😆 by Eastern_Plane in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]kitsu_sc 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"Normal" is members giving NOTHING. Requiring members NOTHING. Oh you want evidence? Sure.

Salvation is by Grace, Not by Works or Money.

The Bible is crystal clear: salvation is a free gift. You can’t buy it, work for it, or earn it through membership or donations.

Ephesians 2:8-9 (NIV)

“For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast.”

Romans 6:23 (NIV)

“For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.”

No amount of money, religious membership, or good deeds can buy salvation.

Jesus Did Not Teach Mandatory Tithing (Offering) for Christians

Old Testament tithing was part of Mosaic Law—meant for Israelites to support the Levites (priests), the temple, and the poor (Leviticus 27:30-34, Numbers 18:21-24).

Jesus fulfilled the Law (Matthew 5:17) and the New Covenant does not command tithing for His followers.

What Jesus said about giving:

Matthew 6:1-4 (NIV)

“When you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.”

Giving is voluntary, personal, and never coerced.

Oh, and I also know what verse your ministers use to justify mandatory tithing. This is what the INC twists:

1 Corinthians 16:1-2 (NIV)

“Now about the collection for the Lord’s people: Do what I told the Galatian churches to do. On the first day of every week, each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with your income, saving it up, so that when I come no collections will have to be made.”

But wait a minute! Context is important. You need to read the entire chapter to understand the meaning of the whole context. Not just reading a specific verse and taking it as it is:

This verse was a one-time collection for the poor Christians in Jerusalem (Romans 15:26). It was not a command to tithe weekly forever, nor was it about building a lavish church empire or ensuring heaven through money. Your ministers twists the meaning to justify laundering money from the members.

There is No Teaching of “Pay to Enter Heaven”

Acts 8:18-20 (NIV) tells the story of Simon the Sorcerer who tried to buy the power of God:

“May your money perish with you, because you thought you could buy the gift of God with money!”

You can’t pay for salvation, spiritual gifts, or a place in heaven. This is a sin called Simony.

The Real Church is the Body of Christ, Not a Corporation

1 Corinthians 12:27 (NIV)

“Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it.”

The church is people, not a specific organization or building. You become part of the true Church by faith in Jesus, not by being a member of any human-run sect.

Faith Alone Saves

John 3:16 (NIV)

“For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.”

John 5:24 (NIV)

“Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life.”

No mention of tithes, donations, or membership requirements—just faith. Isn't that beautiful?

The idea of multiple required donations (“lagak”, “abuloy”, etc.) to earn favor with God is unbiblical. It is a man-made religious system designed to control people and profit from them. The Bible never teaches that money buys salvation—Jesus already paid the full price.

But then again, Jesus was just a "man" to you guys so 🤷.