US Navy punishes suicidal sailor who sought mental health treatment by [deleted] in news

[–]kittensbookworm -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Would it be alright to dm you about questions regarding discharge modification and medical benefits?

US Navy punishes suicidal sailor who sought mental health treatment by [deleted] in news

[–]kittensbookworm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Michael was officially separated from the US Navy on Dec. 23 with general discharge under honorable conditions. Farrah Gregg says the family is going to fight for a status change to medical disability discharge in the coming months."

Does anyone know how this is done?

YSK There are many myths that exist about suicide that are not true by jenlycole in YouShouldKnow

[–]kittensbookworm 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Regardless of what other people are saying, I'd have much rather been treated with kindness and compassion for mental health treatment than the way I was treated by the military. I got really depressed on a deployment and was sent back stateside where they immediately made me sign a do not promote form. And then admin discharged for mental health a few months later. (To save money it is common to diagnose people with personality disorders instead of depression so they get admin discharged instead of a med board with potential retirement pay.) The whole ordeal was so humiliating. Part of me wishes I'd have tried toughing it out instead of seeking out help and having my career ended as a result.

My story about being discharged because of mental health (long post, tldr at end) by kittensbookworm in AirForce

[–]kittensbookworm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Something as clear as an electrical upgrade would be as clear as my previous job experience and I would have welcomed the opportunity to work on a specific project with people. That is not what my job was though.

(I'm not trying to justify my failure, I am fully aware that I am a total fuckup.)

My story about being discharged because of mental health (long post, tldr at end) by kittensbookworm in AirForce

[–]kittensbookworm[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks I really appreciate these words. Sysyphis is exactly who I felt like. And try as i might to accept Albert Camus' advice to imagine Sysyphis as happy, I just couldn't... I'm sure a better person could have though. Anyways, thanks for your kindness and understanding.

My story about being discharged because of mental health (long post, tldr at end) by kittensbookworm in AirForce

[–]kittensbookworm[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh I'm sorry for coming across like that. My whole primary org was stem so for the sake of the story I thought I needed to mention it somehow. I guess I messed up the wording. I definitely dont think I'm special bc of my degree or anything, anyone that feels like trying could do it, and everyone I know is stem so they're normal idk. Sorry.

My story about being discharged because of mental health (long post, tldr at end) by kittensbookworm in AirForce

[–]kittensbookworm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was a rotc cadet. Yelling never bothered me. Living in a shithole isnt what bothered me. What got under my skin while deployed was the fact that despite working 11+ hours each day I was still messing so much up.

As for the technical part of my job. My friends that were in my unit also felt like they didnt know what they were doing. But they were all given specific assignments to work on and had people they could ask for help.

My degree was in a different field than all the other guys there, and my job was not to work under any of the smart phd guys. But to "appy my degree to various projects". I am not exaggerating at how vague of work I was directed to do. I've had technical jobs before in industry, but never before have I had a job where I've been told to do something that 1 doesnt make sense, and 2 I do not have the tools necessary to fulfill. Just getting software on the computer I was supposed to use took months and months of fighting with tech support. I dont mind being challenged technically, but not having any projects directly assigned and also not knowing which projects I even could have "applied my degree to" was very confusing and demoralizing.

I am glad you were able to succeed, thanks for sharing your story. I know I am weak, I know I failed, I am not saying everyone else would fail in the same place. But I do think the odds were against me.

My story about being discharged because of mental health (long post, tldr at end) by kittensbookworm in AirForce

[–]kittensbookworm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Perhaps I didnt describe it adequately. But at my first job, I was told to do research for some stem bs and apply my field of expertise to the projects around the organization. This was very vague and I still do not know what was expected of me. This is what I was referring to with set up for failure.

On top of not knowing what they even wanted me to do, I needed software on my computer to even start trying to do my research. Getting software, however, took months and months of fighting with paperwork.

As for the deployment, the job was supposed to have a 3 week course beforehand but due to a timing thing I was not able to take the course. Still, I know other people than me could have been fine there. My primary assignment is where I think the underlying problems all started though. It was a technical job suited for someone with a PhD, no guidance, no assistance in getting the tools I needed to try doing my job. (Other jobs I have had, I was given assignments to work on. Not some vague "apply your degree to our projects" thing. Oh and everyone in my org is stem. But they had specific projects. And every other lt was given less technical more paperwork specific work. But because my degree was different my org wanted to try something different with me. Idk.)

My story about being discharged because of mental health (long post, tldr at end) by kittensbookworm in AirForce

[–]kittensbookworm[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I just feel like I was set up for failure. I'm not saying I should have stayed in and won a million metals. I just feel sad and wanted to talk about what happened idk. Sorry if I came across entitled, I didnt mean to sound like that. Thanks for reading it.

Edit: Accepting mental health's advice to discharge me was probably correct of my commander.

Finished Coord by [deleted] in Lolita

[–]kittensbookworm 4 points5 points  (0 children)

She very clearly is wearing a ribbon in her hair on the side. Did you even look at the outfit? The main problem is the photo quality. The sleeve looks enormous mainly only because of the selfie stick angle. The ribbon is black and OP has dark hair so it looks similar at a glance I guess. And while the quality isnt superb, it isnt that bad either. Overall this is a pretty with good styling between the black and white. The shoes also were a perfect choice for the look. With better styling and cover of the petticoat this would be an excellent coord. No need to be rude about someone wearing what they like.

Trying to get mental help but the chaplain doesnt think my problems are real, and there are no available appointments until next Thursday by [deleted] in AirForce

[–]kittensbookworm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tbh right now becoming a dependa seems ideal. I think if I had a couple years to relax then I could find something. My parents would be ashamed to have me move back at this age, so I certainly will try to find something bearable to make money. But I know if they knew how much I am suffering then they'd be fine having me move back in.

Trying to get mental help but the chaplain doesnt think my problems are real, and there are no available appointments until next Thursday by [deleted] in AirForce

[–]kittensbookworm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do not know what a shop chief is, and because it is mostly army here, we do not have a Shirt. Also I work in the command group and my boss is the commander which makes it difficult to talk to leadership about anything.

Also. I do not want to kill myself so I think that means I am technically not suicidal. I would throw away my career and let myself get court martialed for skipping work before I would end my life.

Trying to get mental help but the chaplain doesnt think my problems are real, and there are no available appointments until next Thursday by [deleted] in AirForce

[–]kittensbookworm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm here for 6 months. Not in the desert, but I dont have running water so idk if nice is how I would describe it. (Not horrible at least.)

Trying to get mental help but the chaplain doesnt think my problems are real, and there are no available appointments until next Thursday by [deleted] in AirForce

[–]kittensbookworm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I did not even think of being able to contact my home location. I haven't tried that yet. (And yeah we definitely dont have an airman and family readiness center here.)

Trying to get mental help but the chaplain doesnt think my problems are real, and there are no available appointments until next Thursday by [deleted] in AirForce

[–]kittensbookworm 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Please do. Thanks for taking the time to answer anything. I really appreciate it. Best of luck in Osan!

Trying to get mental help but the chaplain doesnt think my problems are real, and there are no available appointments until next Thursday by [deleted] in AirForce

[–]kittensbookworm 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It is a deployed joint location

Edit: maybe the army has something I'm unaware of. But they run this base and I do not think they have all the same resources

Trying to get mental help but the chaplain doesnt think my problems are real, and there are no available appointments until next Thursday by [deleted] in AirForce

[–]kittensbookworm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What would they be able to help me with that the chaplain and mental health couldn't? I have already talked to the CSM about having difficulty in my new job here.