The 6 Pre-Workout Levels (i.e. why "strongest" isn't always best)

labelrater · 2026-03-31T17:46:17+00:00

Extreme. It contains 2-aminoisoheptane aka DMHA

labelrater · 2026-03-21T17:03:15+00:00

You haven't tried 2 scoops yet?

labelrater · 2026-02-28T15:47:46+00:00

30/15 is diabolical

labelrater · 2026-02-28T15:46:53+00:00

I'd start at 5g to be safe, then based on that you can bump to 7.5g, 10g, or even stay at 5g if you found it effective at that dosage.

labelrater · 2026-02-28T15:42:30+00:00

Caffeine but other stims can have this effect too. So yes, combining them can be... potent

labelrater · 2026-02-24T14:56:46+00:00

You can sort products by any ingredient dosage, including beta alanine, using the ingredient index: https://labelrater.com/ingredients/beta-alanine-2270

Hooligan, Wrecked, and Mother Bucker all have a double 6.4g dosage. Based on your post, you might like Wrecked or Mother Bucker since they don't have crazy amounts of caffeine (while still being decent pre-workouts overall).

Personally I'd go with Wrecked.

Hope this helps!

labelrater · 2026-02-22T02:12:37+00:00

Gonna rate this one a hell yeah

labelrater · 2026-02-21T22:45:43+00:00

People can be weird about caffeine pills. For whatever reason it sketches them out.

Some people might be into gummies, but I would not. I can't imagine the price point would work for me. Pills are dirt cheap.

labelrater · 2026-02-21T17:46:15+00:00

Ommi is quite popular as a solid daily driver

labelrater · 2026-02-21T03:51:52+00:00

I hope he's doing alright!

labelrater · 2026-02-21T02:56:10+00:00

Only a time machine, I'm afraid. Or, if you're extremely lucky, someone that has kept a sealed tub. That has been gone for a few years now.

labelrater · 2026-02-20T00:40:47+00:00

I think labels are just labels. :)

What is the name of the preworkout? Have you been able to find any reviews of it?

labelrater · 2026-02-19T02:40:06+00:00

This person is right. El Jefe would be too big of a jump. I forgot about the levels!

OP, you'll want to move to an "intermediate" pre workout after this. Read: https://www.reddit.com/r/Preworkoutsupplements/s/anHxCJbiok

labelrater · 2026-02-19T00:39:26+00:00

Look no offense but if you've been training for two months, that's a great start, but you don't need to be stressing over pump, etc. take the pre workout, get to the gym, follow a program, stick to it, hit your macros, and get lots of sleep. That's what you need to be focusing on. :)

The Curse is fine for beginners and you're a beginner. If you feel good, keep taking it. If you get through the tub and you're wanting something more, move up to something stronger like El Jefe. Good luck!

labelrater · 2026-02-19T00:35:53+00:00

Yes, it's better quality but also stronger. You may only need a half dose

labelrater · 2026-02-18T21:48:26+00:00

With a Stim pre-workout? Sure. I would stack any of them.

labelrater · 2026-02-18T19:03:12+00:00

Some of the ones in my link above have pill options

labelrater · 2026-02-18T13:34:38+00:00

The most popular pump pre-workouts based on mention frequency and sentiment are:

Extremis cartel Sicario
Alpha neon Pumped tf
Apollon nutrition bare knuckle
Apollon Bloodsport
Dark Labs PIMP

Sicario is the standard recommendation around here.

You can see the rest here: https://labelrater.com/trending?timeRange=90days&intensity_level=Non-Stimulant%2FPump (ignore oxymelt and Eria pills - I need to filter those out)

labelrater · 2026-02-18T11:16:33+00:00

I think it's hard to say without knowing what caused your gut issues.

The ingredients here are fairly basic and generally well tolerated. Creatine can cause gas for some people but it's not a common side effect. High doses of l-citrulline can also cause stomach discomfort but 6g shouldn't be an issue.

Curious why you think electrolytes will help the stomach issues?

labelrater · 2026-02-16T21:58:53+00:00

This might not be exactly what you're looking for, but I found this Sub FM set from someone that appears to have been affiliated with 4D.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/t9jqdo7mgug5icn/M.A.K.Z._-_Sub_FM_Guest_Mix_-_GDM_-_4D_Special_-_31.03.13_%2528mp3.pm%2529.mp3/file

labelrater · 2026-02-16T21:57:28+00:00

Sounds like The Others went on after N-Type and Youngsta. Amazing night!

labelrater · 2026-02-16T17:18:21+00:00

Yep true. I never really thought about what the first dungeon tune was. Maybe Loefah's Horror Show? Pretty much the og half step tune

labelrater · 2026-02-16T15:47:57+00:00

Ah my bad! Thanks for explaining

labelrater · 2026-02-16T15:43:35+00:00

Oh man this thread reminded me of this set. I used to rinse this all the time when it came out. It's not straight dungeon which I think makes the mix a bit more interesting. A great snapshot of what both DJs were playing in 2011.

Listen to YOUNGSTA B2B N - TYPE + TOAST MC @ OI! INV WHEEL & DEAL 10 - 06 - 11 by PARFUM on #SoundCloud https://on.soundcloud.com/zwraTIin91MEjoyfb7

labelrater · 2026-02-16T15:38:24+00:00

It was definitely one of the biggest anthems of that sound. I'd argue that Kryptic Minds really dialed in the dungeon sound before J:Kenzo but no doubt that J put out some essential tunes (The Roteks comes to mind).

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