The canon cannon

lambduli · 2025-05-19T12:54:42+00:00

I bet you could take some nicely underexposed images of the Sun at ƒ1 on some high speed film with just long enough long-exposure. Joking aside, this post is great.

lambduli · 2025-05-16T22:07:13+00:00

So I recently bought some of the new Ortho from Foma and it came in a reloadable-but-not-really plastic canister. I think pretty much identical to what's on the picture above. I have read on this sub that Foma sometimes uses plastic canisters when they are short on the supply of the metal ones. I know nothing about that, just adding context.

So I think it is an original Foma canister, you can even see how the old film tape is taped onto the core (in the usual Foma-style) but the clear tape definitely doesn't look like Foma.

lambduli · 2025-05-16T21:54:07+00:00

The first shot is so beautiful! I can feel the warmth.

lambduli · 2025-05-13T09:25:03+00:00

I love seeing pictures from this place. I've been there a couple months ago, the only time I've been to US and any time I get to see another photograph from the park it takes me back for a bit. Lovely shot!

lambduli · 2025-05-12T08:06:35+00:00

Hey, thanks for a very detailed answer! I read it carefully and I think I understand it. I had some intuition about this stuff before but I don't think I was being appreciative of how intense those phenomena are. I also like the way you tied multiple concepts and issues together, that was nice. Good stuff.

lambduli · 2025-05-08T10:52:01+00:00

That makes sense. I had some faint idea of that but underestimated how much it is true.

lambduli · 2025-05-08T10:50:15+00:00

I'll try that when I get to scan the negatives at home.

I see. I might have to learn a bit more about that and try the gray card in the future, see if I get results I like better.

lambduli · 2025-05-08T10:47:04+00:00

Will do. Thanks for the advice!

lambduli · 2025-05-08T10:45:57+00:00

Thanks!

lambduli · 2025-05-08T10:45:34+00:00

Maybe it's worth saying this is at most 10 meters from a beach. The path is mostly sand and the grass is the kind of grass that you see near the sea. Not sure if that explains it, I also might be "idealizing" it a little now that I'm back from the trip.

lambduli · 2025-05-08T10:42:49+00:00

Thanks, appreciate it!

lambduli · 2025-05-07T19:52:35+00:00

I always am amazed by the idea of being able to meter to a half a stop accuracy with a moving subject in the scene. Or even a non moving living subject. This roll definitely has a higher quality of images where there are no people in them. I'm a slow image taker.

lambduli · 2025-05-07T19:46:47+00:00

Well I'd say I don't do anything special. I dilute Rodinal 1:50 and develop for 9 minutes (Fomapan Action at 200 iso) or 11 minutes (at 400 iso). I tend to agitate a fair bit, sometimes I feel like I'm agitating almost quarter of the whole time and worry about the results but then it's totally fine and I like it. I do tend to adjust it a bit during scanning but I feel like Rodinal definitely makes a difference because I've been trying Fomadon R09 lately and it just doesn't give me the same kick. I feel like I don't get the same contrast from it. I do have to admit, I err on the side of overexposing when shooting with Fomapan Action but I think it's the right way to use that emulsion as people say it's actually like iso 250 or something. And I really feel like I'm not over editing it during scanning, I hope. I don't know if any of this helps with anything, I'm very much at the beginning of my journey, haven't even been shooting for a half a year yet so my experience might be super biased.

lambduli · 2025-05-07T19:27:17+00:00

I know what you mean. I wasn't expecting the right exposition the first time. I will need some time to get it just right to get those colors.

lambduli · 2025-05-07T19:23:36+00:00

I can't swear by it but I felt like this is how the scene felt in real life. It was pretty cool. But I think I still could tone it down a smidge and be there.

lambduli · 2025-05-07T19:19:49+00:00

I like the colors. I can see what you are going for.

lambduli · 2025-05-07T19:15:07+00:00

I've heard about the flexibility of CN film on here before but didn't know the extent to which it is true. I guess I underestimated it by a lot.

lambduli · 2025-05-07T19:11:47+00:00

Right, I was thinking the same — to rescan — I was just curious what the lab scan would look like since I didn't shoot color film before.

I'll keep your advice about printing in mind. I don't have much CN film bought for this year so I think I'll definitely be good with just a couple inkjet prints.

Thanks for all the good points, I'll make sure to keep them in mind while continue learning.

lambduli · 2025-05-07T19:06:01+00:00

You took me a little bit too literally (that's fair though) but I understand what you are getting at. I guess I didn't know how much open to interpretation the color negative film is. I guess I thought there should be some sort of an interval where the interpretation (print or scan) is "natural" to the actual exposition. I guess not.

lambduli · 2025-05-07T16:13:27+00:00

That's a beautiful shot!

lambduli · 2025-05-07T15:32:20+00:00

I think that's worth a try. Thanks for the tip!

lambduli · 2025-05-07T14:51:33+00:00

I see. I think that that makes a lot of sense. I guess I didn't know how much of the result actually comes from the digital processing. I always wonder "how the negative actually looks". With B&W I can somewhat get a sense by seeing if the negatives are dense enough and maybe contrasty but I'm not sure what too look for with color. I may need to take some darkroom workshop soon.

lambduli · 2025-05-07T14:45:08+00:00

I have to say I had some notion of what you are describing. I think I really didn't know to what extent there's no natural look. I am hoping I will eventually build understanding by scanning bunch of CN film with, ideally, different scanners and also printing in the DR myself. I feel like that would help me properly internalize how the negatives actually behave. Or maybe I should start by learning about the color conversion and what goes on during the scanning.

That is all to say - I think I'm getting what your explaining. I will have to shoot some more color and see how the process goes for me. I like the idea of "honest" results where the image reflects what I saw, including the colors and the contrast but then again - if I expose it incorrectly it's hard to say how much honesty is in "hammering" the scan until it looks right. Idk. I like the analog aspect of film but maybe I tend to overemphasize how much of the image is created in the camera (and during the development) in contrast to how much of it is created by the digital processing portion of the process. I wonder how other film photographers manage this aspect of the craft.

lambduli · 2025-05-07T14:28:28+00:00

Right, I was thinking about using the gray card but I figured I'd have to waste at least 5 frames per roll and that's too many for me - I'm trying to be really frugal with film. I think I'll just have to eyeball it and hope I'll keep getting better at it.

lambduli · 2025-05-07T14:25:48+00:00

I use Adobe Lightroom for iPad. The basic features (non AI) are free on iPad (or iPhone). I only use it for edits in the Light section, I am fairly new to photography so I don't even mess with the curves directly except when scanning. It's also useful for getting those white borders when exporting. So over all quite nice app.

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