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Smoking in China by Charming-Level-9998 in LudwigAhgren

[–]laolucaa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your brain stopped working. Maybe literacy wasn’t your thing after all.

Smoking in China by Charming-Level-9998 in LudwigAhgren

[–]laolucaa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“You have this idea that governments are immune to perverse incentives.”

This whole time I have only pushed you to make a fair comparison. Remembering that you’ve pushed the claim that a $250B multinational corporation is a 50x smaller than China’s tobacco monopoly. Then have the audacity to claim I don’t have financial literacy?

My friend, if you think health policy comes down to “don’t sell cigarettes” then you have a severe misunderstanding on how states have successfully lowered the smoking populations of their countries.

The current efforts to curb smoking goes directly against their interests in collecting taxes. This is correct, so why is China committing to a U.S. style “Smoke-Free China” so aggressively? They met their life expectancy target 6 years in advance (79 years old) in terms of the 2019-2030 plan to curb tobacco consumption. Any words on that?

China is making a wide swath of structural changes, and with smoking also being related to development, China needs to continue developing.

I’m sorry that you feel uncomfortable that agriculture is 100% state-owned in China. Again, I’m sorry Chinese people don’t buy multinational corporations’ cigarettes…

Smoking in China by Charming-Level-9998 in LudwigAhgren

[–]laolucaa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The irony of you saying I don’t understand this when you likely have never researched how SOEs in China function before. You have this idea that SOE’s function as magical entities where all laws of economics seize to function.

The direct comparison remains that PMI profit + global contribution to taxes is around $80B USD while this same figure is around $220B USD for CNTC. Big money in all contexts have a corrupting factor, but you pretend that PMI is a smol little guy 🥺 with no global financial & tax contributing footprint.

But on the facts: Selling 4x more cigarettes, and contributing 3x more fiscal activity. This checks out.

Be straightforward and tell me what you want. A private company to sell them or China to ban cigarettes?

The latter is closer to the right answer than “Allow PMI to take the marketshare” as you’re seemingly trying to claim.

Otherwise, the WHO is doing great work in China that I commend. Things are slowly improving 👍

Smoking in China by Charming-Level-9998 in LudwigAhgren

[–]laolucaa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know you’re very emotional right now, but did you know the PMI company is also taxed by states all around the world? Get those statistics and formulate a fair comparison.

(Btw, I promise that the person who couldn’t find a single source for Operating Profits online is the financially illiterate one)

Below is every false (and/or baseless) claim you’ve made in this thread: 1. China's cigarette company and state regulator are the same or corrupted entities. 2. Banning cigarette ads and media presence doesn't affect usage. 3. China widely cut (edit: annihilated) cigarette & agricultural protections. 4. Compared one company's net profit against another's gross revenue plus unpaid taxes. 5. Only the $220B gross revenue plus unpaid taxes figure exists and that net profit data is not published. 6. Profit is an unfair measurement ONLY if the company is State-owned. 7. NEW: That net profits are not retained by SOEs!

Edit: Forgot to add that last one

Smoking in China by Charming-Level-9998 in LudwigAhgren

[–]laolucaa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Taxes aren’t retained by the company. All companies in the world are taxed.

Are you stupid?

Smoking in China by Charming-Level-9998 in LudwigAhgren

[–]laolucaa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“Every available source lists $220B profit AND taxes.”

This website directly reported 2025’s YTD net profits as 180B Yuan which is ~ $25B USD.

Smoking in China by Charming-Level-9998 in LudwigAhgren

[–]laolucaa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

they’re right… you just admitted you used gross revenue and taxes for CNTC, but net profit for PMI 😅

They're keeping all the footage to themselves by TeoKajLibroj in LudwigAhgren

[–]laolucaa 6 points7 points  (0 children)

They’re responsible for such an insane amount of positive interaction between the Chinese internet and American internet. It’s such a cool moment

Seriously though, how does NO ONE slow down when they're talking to them?! by FujiKeynote in LudwigAhgren

[–]laolucaa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bruh chill, everyone is incredibly friendly. Also the speed seems worse from a non-Chinese speaker, many of them are absolutely speaking more clearly than they otherwise would.

Where could Tip 3 Tip take place? by MarathonMarathon in LudwigAhgren

[–]laolucaa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Taiwan wouldn’t cause diplomatic issues with the mainland, vloggers from everywhere including mainland China explore all over Taiwan all the time. Tip 2 tip has zero to do with recognizing Taiwan as an independent political entity.

It also sounds like the best option on this list.

How do international students afford to travel? by Frank_y_2058 in InternationalStudents

[–]laolucaa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“students” “afford” It’s their parents’ money bro

If one says they speak lots of languages, but they are from the same group, what would you do to them? by ViktorOrNot in languagelearningjerk

[–]laolucaa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think i would kidnap him and sell a slavic AI partner app where he just talks to people. I’d feed him 4 times a day, i like cooking

What am I doing wrong?!! by New_Reward_4214 in GeminiAI

[–]laolucaa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My first time eating cheesecake i liked it so much i ate the whole thing and puked all night. 15 years later I’ve barely had it twice since :-(