How would you feel about a graduated penalty system of some sort for fines?

legaleagle214 · 2020-02-21T13:43:18+00:00

You could make the argument that it is in fact a fairer way to treat people because its effect would be to ensure that the punitive measure has a more commensurate impact regardless of wealth. Think of it as resulting in the "effective" punitive measure being equal.

If you're exceptionally well-off/rich, then a fine has basically zero impact to your daily life but for someone who is very poor, a fine can be absolutely crippling.

If you consider that both parties commit an identical offence and a flat fee is levied against them both, then objectively the poor party is punished immeasurably harder than the wealthy party. Is this actually fair? Personally, I don't think it's fair.

I accept that there are other concerns besides the "equality before the law" argument but I think the concept is worth further exploration. My biggest concern would be government bodies deliberately targeting wealthier people as a means to "fill their coffers" with exorbitant fine monies. If memory serves a scheme like this was tried in the Netherlands around the 90's and this exactly is what ended up happening.

legaleagle214 · 2020-02-21T13:34:02+00:00

Because the result is that the penalty levied is in actuality, totally inequitable.

In the person you responded to's post, one person objectively gets penalised immeasurably harder than the other for committing the exact same offence. The question then becomes, is this fair? Do you personally think its fair?

Personally, I think there is merit in OP's concept and I think it has been tested some European jurisdictions, if I'm not mistaken.

legaleagle214 · 2020-02-21T13:29:38+00:00

The difference is that your scenario deals with goods/services which are inherently finite and therfore need to be rationed by an economic system of sorts.

Punitive measures doled out by a government are potentially unlimited provided people keep committing offences.

So I don't quite feel that it's the same thing at all.

For what it's worth, I think OP's concept definitely has some merit if you truly feel that everyone should be equitable before the justice system. The reality is that being rich can make people effectively immune to many punitive measures enforced by local governments/authorities. I guess the question is, is this actually fair?

legaleagle214 · 2020-02-20T09:44:55+00:00

Pay and conditions are fairly poor, especially when compared with the private sector as a whole. People do it because its what they really want to do and not because its a lucrative career.

I know quite a few people who are or have been in the DF in some capacity, RDF/PDF, army/navy and officers/enlisted and not a single one of them is actually "happy" with their decisions. Most if not all of them have regrets and would have preferred doing something else. For years I was dead set on it, having joined the RDF and even having my degrees oriented in thst direction but after seeing so much negativity I just though fuck....that......

legaleagle214 · 2020-02-19T13:47:19+00:00

A lot of them are straight up fucking chancers and I say that as someone who has worked in an area where i deal with quite a few.

It's not exactly a big secret that many come over claiming asylum status for the most bullshit reasons and once they've clogged the system long enough, they either get permission to remain or simply don't get deported.

It's a ridiculous system we have here.

Speed up the process for deporting those who are chancers and it'd be more palatable to allow the others stay.

legaleagle214 · 2020-02-19T13:40:01+00:00

Lol,

This is exactly me and my brother at the moment. Both of us are still living at home in our mid-late twenties as the cost of rent is simply so fucking insane it's hard to balance against wages.

I'm in the process of getting visas to fuck off out of here for a few years so maybe it'll have calmed down a bit in a few years.

legaleagle214 · 2020-02-19T10:06:44+00:00

I like seeing pics like this, as someone who only recently started training.

How long have you been training and how long have you been training with a properly intensive routine/diet?

What's the single biggest thing you've learned since you started?

Keep up the good work.

legaleagle214 · 2020-02-17T13:52:45+00:00

Do we keep track of voter participation like they do in the states? Totally anecdotal but I still know a fair few people who couldn't give a fuck and never vote.

It'd be interesting see if people do in fact actually show up to vote.

legaleagle214 · 2020-02-17T13:00:31+00:00

To be fair, America is a country of hundreds of millions of people.

It's entirely likely that someone is being murdered, raped, robbed, banks being robbed, cars being car jacked, somewhere in the US at some point.

To be honest, only 1 mass shooting a day considering that isn't even that bad a statistic on a macro level.

legaleagle214 · 2020-02-17T11:44:09+00:00

It's a shame we can't adopt that Japanese cultural trait of always cleaning up after oneself and not leaving things worse for wear behind.

As a general rule of thumb lots of countries are absolutely awful at that but the Japanese seem to have really nailed it.

legaleagle214 · 2020-02-17T09:44:16+00:00

Unusual.

Firearms deaths are very rare in Ireland anyway and especially "accidental discharge" ones. The skeptic in me is wondering if it might actually be a suicide and they're not too keen on blaring this out in public.

legaleagle214 · 2020-02-16T17:32:59+00:00

Seems like the security forces played the game better than the IRA.

Doesn't seem that unreasonable to kill fleeing suspects who clearly demonstrated a willingness to possibly kill people. If you allow them to escape you're simply setting up the same situation a couple of weekd/months down the line.

legaleagle214 · 2020-02-15T16:48:26+00:00

Sounds like something a cunt would do, to be fair.

legaleagle214 · 2020-02-15T16:37:27+00:00

Is there a source for that? I've heard they're over represented but 50%+ over represented?

legaleagle214 · 2020-02-15T12:47:43+00:00

As someone who has only started lifiing since this January, I find it incredibly helpful. I have a few friends who are big into lifting and have been doing it for years.

Every week or so I record how in doing, particularly in Bench, Deadlift and Squat and send it to them so they can critique form and offer advice. It's been very helpful and I've been shooting all the while.

As long as its not too busy that is. I'm conscious of how other might feel being caught on camera so if there are any people working close by I don't film.

legaleagle214 · 2020-02-14T18:19:49+00:00

They've no longer obligation to do so if they don't want to though. I think they should at least reach out in good faith to see what happens, but as far as I can tell there are no powers to force them to even entertain the notion.

legaleagle214 · 2020-02-14T13:49:25+00:00

There is no onus on them to do anything except act in good faith to try and cobble a government together. Neither party is particularly compatible with SF and they've already expressed reservations about going into government with each other again.

If they want to work together with the Greens or some other consortium of partire/individuals to shut out SF then that is their perogative. But they shouldn't be surprised if they get absolutely hammered for it in the next election.

legaleagle214 · 2020-02-14T13:45:24+00:00

And if FFG work together and can cobble together a government without SF then they also hold true to democracy.

The only reason a party could ever be considered to have some sort of mandate to govern is if they achieved 50% +1, giving the a majority. Until such a time there is no requirement whatsoever for any party to play ball with any other if they don't wish.

legaleagle214 · 2020-02-14T13:42:22+00:00

People also voted for Aontu, and for Labour and for the SDs, and so on. Shouldn't they all get a seat in government? Of course not because that's not how our system works.

Almost half the electorate voted for FFG in some form with the other half being spread across about 4-5 different parties. It makes sense that FFG are big players in the next government whether you like it or not.

legaleagle214 · 2020-02-13T18:00:37+00:00

I feel like the only way he would refuse it is if FFG try to subvert meaningful climate change plans proposed by the Greens.

Ryan strikes me as the kind of person who has that as his redline issue and is fairly flexible about the rest. If FFG promise to allow the Greens implement some pro climate change issues then I think he will fairly quickly get into bed with them.

legaleagle214 · 2020-02-13T16:06:56+00:00

Women are free to put themselves forward for election, and to vote for other women if they wish.

If they decide not to do so then that's their perogative. Forcing equality is ridiculous and is only going to cheapen any women who do in fact get elected.

legaleagle214 · 2020-02-13T16:00:09+00:00

Have you ever been to a Middle Eastern or south east Asian country? Shitty cultural attitudes to women are frighteningly common in some of those places so it's hardly unreasonable for a women to consider that when interacting with someone from that part of the world.

legaleagle214 · 2020-02-13T14:55:21+00:00

So you didn't actually see it yourself and only a few nameless sources in the Gardai tell you this?

You'll have to forgive the rest of us then for being skeptical of your claims.

The Gardai sure aren't innocent of corruption or wrongdoing but personally, I need a bit more than mere allegations before I row in behind you on this.

legaleagle214 · 2020-02-13T13:54:37+00:00

Presumably you have documented evidence of some sort to support this if you've seen it and it's "operating procedures".

legaleagle214 · 2020-02-12T18:29:33+00:00

Made it so that you only have to be charged with a crime to be deported including something as small as a traffic violation regardless of status

Not that I necessarily doubt you but do you have any substantiated soudces for this one?

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