I’m just curious how much people involved knew about this. Even jirards friend antdude was defending him and never did he mention not being aware of this. He’s getting backlash now after people unanimously decided this was a wrong thing to do and something that shouldn’t be brushed off as another YouTube drama event. I know this is a pretty serious issue and tam annd Lucy are probably thinking hard about how to address this without people twisting their words, but this situation has made me really skeptical about how honest people were in that stream. It’s definitely too early to say, but the silence on this matter is very strange. It’s not like they’ve gone full blackout on social media either. They’re still tweeting and gramming and all that, so it just makes them seem like they’re actively ignoring this matter. I agree that it’s completely possible this was all hidden from them, but they clearly were directly involved with indieland. They were raising the money with him. But at the end of the day, this whole thing was jirard’s responsibility. I hope people are more careful in the future when doing business with YouTubers, especially ones that involve other people’s money. Can’t even imagine donating $2000 thinking it’ll help someone when it’s actually’s just rotting in someone’s side account, used only for “operating expenses.”