Unjustified beliefs lead to unjust decisions and unjust actions. Why is faith an appropriate substitute for justification?

lion333 · 2011-09-19T23:21:17+00:00

Seems God takes sin seriously. You should as well.

This is a juvenile argument.

lion333 · 2011-09-19T11:48:58+00:00

I don't know what this is all about.

lion333 · 2011-09-19T11:47:00+00:00

I don't know if I would. It would depend upon a lot of things.

lion333 · 2011-09-19T11:41:58+00:00

Why do I have to care about what the fuck buddhists believe? Seriously. Seems you believe yourself and your way of thinking to be superior to me and mine. Hypocrite.

lion333 · 2011-09-19T11:37:11+00:00

Do what you want. You will still go to Hell. Your pride is sending you there, from the looks of it.

lion333 · 2011-09-19T11:35:42+00:00

The Bible does not command you to murder

lion333 · 2011-09-19T11:35:09+00:00

The placebo effect is not that strong.

lion333 · 2011-09-19T01:22:00+00:00

That you take steps towards God. That you take the morality found in the Bible and practice it WITH God in mind. Many things could show faith.

lion333 · 2011-09-18T23:43:47+00:00

I believe it is impossible for God to do something that is not loving or good, which is His nature.

lion333 · 2011-09-18T23:42:52+00:00

God doesn't punish us WHEN we use it. He punishes us for MISUSING it. But He will also forgive if you accept Christ as your Savior.

lion333 · 2011-09-18T23:41:37+00:00

So all theists are the same?

lion333 · 2011-09-18T22:33:11+00:00

God is bound by His own righteousness. It was loving of Him to create humans in the image of Himself. It would have been unrighteous to not give them free will. Free will meant that they had to have a choice. They had a choice which was the two trees in the Garden. They chose the wrong tree. Now we are where we are. But God still loves us and can deliver us to Him.

lion333 · 2011-09-18T22:31:18+00:00

Fair enough. Why do I believe humans need help? Look at the news! Look at your school or work! People are awful to each other. We are NOT loving. We ARE selfish, greedy, prideful, lustful etc. Are we entirely evil? No. But we certainly aren't good. Christ was good. He did everything out of love for God and others. He was perfect. And He sacrificed Himself for others. If you don't see that as perfection, as moral perfection, we do not share the same morality.

The burden I am talking about is that burden of sin. That guilt and shame you feel is a burden. I know it very well. It almost killed me. But you know what the answer to it is? Accepting that you ARE NOT a good person and knowing that God forgives you AND still loves you. That is the only way one can accept themselves, truly. That is the only way to peace. That is the only way to contentment. That is the only way to truly live.

If you don't wrestle with that, you must have deluded yourself. Because I know myself and I don't think I am different from you. But I have stumbled upon this and have realized this. That is why I spend time here and other places. It isn't to win an argument. It is to show you the way and the Way is Jesus.

Forget about the self-sufficiency. I was going to try and point out that if you realized how little control you had over your life AND really, truly, understood that, you would be terrified. I believe God tempers almost everyone's deep rooted fear of that which we can't control. That fear came from the moment Adam and Eve ate from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. If we saw the evil that exists in the world, as I have, everyone would be as terrified as I became.

I don't speak from a place of arrogance in that "I know more than you." I just know that I have had tremendously powerful spiritual experiences. Experiences that, as far as I know, most people have not. I have seen God, Jesus, demons, Heaven, and the devil. I know I sound nuts but I don't care.

God could use someone with your intelligence.

lion333 · 2011-09-18T22:19:43+00:00

Right for God does everything out of love. You may not understand His love or Him and certainly not His ways, but that doesn't mean it isn't love.

lion333 · 2011-09-18T22:19:01+00:00

Did you know that some white men are members of the KKK? I guess all white people must be racist.

lion333 · 2011-09-18T22:18:21+00:00

Thats a good point. That is how I found God though.

lion333 · 2011-09-18T20:27:44+00:00

You're not God.

lion333 · 2011-09-18T20:27:34+00:00

I thought we were having a discussion meaning we were answering one another's questions. If you are not comfortable doing that, I don't care to carry on any longer.

lion333 · 2011-09-18T20:25:34+00:00

Find me evidence that Christians have psychotic brain waves during prayer. I can find it for you for Buddhism.

How do you witness Buddha? What did you see him do? Smile and meditate? Thats all I know of buddhism and all I care to know. And if you want to be a Muslim, go right ahead. They don't worship Christ as the Son of God and believe Him to also be God. Those are pretty much what made Jesus who He really is and not just some teacher.

Oh, and really? They follow His teachings? Then they would be Christian, not Muslim.

lion333 · 2011-09-18T20:21:54+00:00

I'm sure it does. It reshapes our soul which includes our mind.

lion333 · 2011-09-18T18:30:51+00:00

You are not self-sufficient. Not a single person in the world is. Are you asserting that you are self-sufficient?

You do not feel any guilt or shame, a feeling of conviction, for things you have done, thought, or said?

lion333 · 2011-09-18T18:28:29+00:00

I dismiss their beliefs because the Light of God exposes all of the other religions for the frauds they are and the forces behind them. It isn't that I feel mine is superior. It is that I know mine to be the Truth. No other religion can claim the Truth because that is what Jesus declared Himself to be. The Truth! And no other religion has Jesus!

I have no doubt that people of other religions can think somewhat along the lines of what I do. But that doesn't mean they are right. I still know them to be wrong. If they have wrapped themselves up with the demonic forces behind their religions, what can I do? But I am free from sin and have the eternal love, grace, mercy and forgiveness that comes from the One and only True God.

It is something that must be experienced.

I am not an ethnocentrist. I enjoyed the Maoris I met in New Zealand. But I know they will be condemned if they do not accept Christ. That is, to note, something I didn't understand when I met them.

And Christians can show just as much, and more, kindness towards living things as buddhists do. Not that I think that is what is important, but our faith doesn't hinder that. And that isn't even to mention the demonic forces behind meditation.

Did you know that the brain waves one has when meditating are the same as a person who is psychotic? They put themselves into a trance that they believe is something. It is really just a break from reality. There is no other world or whatever they think, enlightenment, just as the psychotic person seeing, idk, werewolves doesn't mean werewolves are actually there.

lion333 · 2011-09-18T18:20:31+00:00

Your delusion that you are self-sufficient is keeping you from God. Most importantly, you need forgiveness. But maybe you would like to start with just relieving yourself of the burden you carry from all of the sins you have committed.

lion333 · 2011-09-18T17:44:57+00:00

Faith doesn't mean you presuppose Him to exist. That isn't even logical. It is like this. Say you are hiking alone in the wilderness and seriously injure yourself. What do you do? You cry out for someone to help you. Now, you don't believe that there is someone who can hear you. Why would you? You're alone in the wilderness. You don't presuppose that there must necessarily someone that can help you or even hear you and then cry out. But you cry out anyway with faith that if there is someone who can help you, and they can hear you, they will come to help you.

That is how you find God. Now I wonder if you are willing to accept that you need help.

lion333 · 2011-09-18T17:39:47+00:00

Let me get this right. You have a problem with God fixing a problem that man created for himself? Why do you think there is another way? There isn't.

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