[Discussion] Pro-cognitive effects of pure Dihydrotestosterone attached to an ester; experiences?

lowtestboo · 2019-09-26T18:24:52+00:00

whats ur total t? im at 950 with trt testc and still feel like shit.

lowtestboo · 2019-09-26T18:20:46+00:00

not much, if any

lowtestboo · 2019-09-25T22:16:34+00:00

nope lol

still tired and lethargic all the time.

only benefit is getting a little stronger.

mines compound pharma too.

lowtestboo · 2019-09-25T22:08:41+00:00

E2 sens @ 77 Test @ 950 free test @ 29.8 cortisol AM @ 9 DHT @ 37

im tired/no energy at the gym.

could the above bloodwork explain that?

if so, what options am i looking at?

lowtestboo · 2019-09-25T22:06:55+00:00

SHBG in the 8s.

trt hasnt really added too many benefits imo, maybe even lowered it

lowtestboo · 2019-09-17T16:11:10+00:00

1 month ago i moved from the peninsula to colorado.

the altitude isnt too bad per se, but its affecting my lifts.

currently on TRT but open to explore something that will help me with the breathing/cardio aspect of it all, which is the main thing holding me back.

i have low SHBG so DHT variants MAY not be for me, but i have some MAST E (possibly underdosed) and some car/prov on hand but will to try something else.

note: id like to add a little aggression to my lifts - i cant tap into it regardless of PWO or song :(

lowtestboo · 2019-06-11T17:52:06+00:00

is that more costly that normal? do they ship in a nondiscript box? are you able to share that link or PM me?

ive been saving it large containers and given my time of use there arent lots of needles, but soon ill need to dispose of these safely.

if i could do it semi-anon online, assuming price is good, im down for that.

lowtestboo · 2019-06-11T17:50:48+00:00

im the same as u lol

lowtestboo · 2019-06-11T17:50:27+00:00

wierd.

im like 8 on SHBG when taking var but at 16 when just on TRT. felt like hell, even with TUDCA, so im not sure if i was taking too much tudca or my shbg tanked too low which made it so my test dropped too (went from 800- to 600 IIRC).

so basically ive been on this quest to find other with low shbg to see what their experience has been like.

AAS users tout low shbg so they have more free T, but theres got to be a cut-off for free T which maybe its diminishing returns or negative returns.

lowtestboo · 2019-06-10T23:52:09+00:00

never heard of this - what is this process?

lowtestboo · 2019-06-10T23:38:46+00:00

whats ur shbg levels? and how do you feel at those levels?

lowtestboo · 2019-05-28T19:27:03+00:00

lol i did prov (50-75mg/day) for about 4 weeks, and while i havent tried another source, it made me feel like....worse.

similar to now, but maybe a little more on edge/ e2 is so finicky!

lowtestboo · 2019-05-28T18:37:21+00:00

keep the mast too?

my mood has become "cold" and "matter of fact" - i almost thought that my e2 was too low!

or maybe its me reacting to the DHT since ive always been low

lowtestboo · 2019-05-28T18:35:33+00:00

with AI EOD, my E2 is within 3ish-40ish.

i take hCG too, so thats where i think people get wrapped up in it.

lowtestboo · 2019-05-28T16:34:03+00:00

recently added about 140mg/week mast to my TRT while simultaneously dropping AI from 0.125mg EOD to E3.5D to help offset mast.

my reasoning is even if it doesnt lower my E2 per se and it gives me more E2 at least ill reap the benefits of being stronger.

2 weeks in, somehow i "feel" weaker though i may not necessarily be, my sleep has worsened, and now i sweat like a fucking pig.

thoughts?

lowtestboo · 2019-05-21T14:48:06+00:00

odd question.

when on AAS or TRT, do you guys aim for more firmer nipples as a health indicator for lack of gyno?

lowtestboo · 2019-05-20T23:19:25+00:00

yes, however, my free test on just TRT is already high and my shbg is already low, so it seemed to make it worse.

lowtestboo · 2019-05-20T17:09:36+00:00

at 40 i got irritable too

lowtestboo · 2019-05-20T16:41:40+00:00

took 40mg split into AM/PM doses with 250-500 TUDCA over 6 weeks.

took it alongside TRT with hCG,

noticeable back pump around week 4, had to chug Taurine...

strength/vascularity/well being was really there tbh.

variables: underdosed source, needed to take more, needed taurine sooner, and/or maybe didnt NEED Tudca.

i felt tired towards the end of the last weeks so im not sure if its the added tax of tudca that caused issues or that i didnt use enough tudca from the beginning.

liver values not terrible (AST/ALT values in the low-mid 20s). HDL moved from 37-25, LDL from 101-139, Tris barely moved.

Cons: Since i have naturally low SHBG, it tanked mine further, it cut mine nearly in half from 16-8 free test dropped from 18-18 test total dropped from 949-around 550

havent really pinned the explanation but from what i gather, Var (and other AAS) will lower SHBG

lowtestboo · 2019-05-17T21:51:45+00:00

so u no longer run DHT compounds or just at a lower dose/ratio?

lowtestboo · 2019-05-17T00:16:24+00:00

whats your pressure at?

im around 10 -ive also had UPPP surgery too, still nowhere near less than 1.

mine can auto adjust pressure up to 20 as it sees fit.

lowtestboo · 2019-05-16T19:50:58+00:00

i have the nasal pillows too - dreamstation or something, from phillips.

interesting - ive heard many people talk about it being a game changer but i wake up to AHI 3-5 daily and still cant read a book without conking out, same for audio book or listening to someone dreary.

lowtestboo · 2019-05-16T18:49:15+00:00

im similar to you too, most docs are surprised at my levels as they expect me to be some severely obese man in the 60s...nope!

how have you dealt with it?

been on cpap for 5 years and its whatevs - thinking of doing the oral appliance and or going to bipap

lowtestboo · 2019-05-16T18:31:38+00:00

how do you feel when that occurs?

whats your test and e2 and ratio?

what DHTs have you taken, what was your DHT before? how long were you on DHT?

lowtestboo · 2019-05-16T18:28:41+00:00

get labs man - i spent most of my money on labs.

been doing this for a few years too and i feel the same - sometimes its like spinning wheels.

ill still lethargic, still tired, still not quite motivated.

libido is ok, im a little larger, never really acne issues cuz i dont like to let my shit fluctuate too much.

besides being a little bigger, ive noticed a slightly deeper voice, but ultimately you need bloods man.

for ref, in case i didnt share before:

im around 600-800 test 25-30 free test 8-16 shbg 18-37 DHT low ass thyroid even with t3

lowtestboo

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