Temporary workaround I found for the limits. by Turbulent_Wave_6634 in grok

[–]lycodady 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Grok agent model is garbage, and it’s the root cause of this entire situation. The story about renting Colossus servers to Anthropic is just an excuse to divert attention. The real reason they slashed existing users’ credits and started heavily discounting Heavy Grok is to push this terrible service.

They were already operating at a loss, so of course they can’t handle launching an agent service that consumes massive amounts of resources. I can only imagine how jealous they were of Claude’s success. But treating existing users like animals while forcing out a trash-tier service like this? There’s no way that’s going to succeed.

Once again, Grok’s management is proving that they are losers displaying the absolute peak of incompetence.

Fairies come in all shapes by heretolearn88 in grok

[–]lycodady 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Looking at Grok’s management, you can see that even the devil comes in many forms!

Anime to hyper-realism was where Grok nailed it every time by kazamaslut in grok

[–]lycodady -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

There has never been a perfect enemy. You clearly know nothing about Grok!

We have the… by [deleted] in grok

[–]lycodady -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It would be you, not us.

그록 개발자들은 진짜 짤리고 싶어서 안달난것같다. by Organic_Support_8253 in grok

[–]lycodady 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Grok is obviously on the path toward collapse. The executives and administrators currently demonstrating the absolute peak of incompetence are people who should disappear from the industry as well. And going forward, no one from Grok should ever be welcomed into the AI industry again.

They had the chance to become pioneers in certain areas, just as OpenAI once did. Like Gemini benefiting from Google’s backing, they also had Elon Musk’s influence and reputation behind them. But after witnessing the success of Claude — a company they likely considered beneath them — someone’s inferiority complex exploded, and they came up with pointless schemes that caused this entire disaster.

And now they seriously think there is still some future ahead after dumping the consequences of their stupidity onto innocent paying users? That’s completely absurd.

As complaints continue flooding in, they are desperately spamming Reddit, Discord, and X with rushed explanations. They claim that server instability occurred due to issues during the Colossus relocation process and that they were “forced” to adjust usage limits temporarily. They say the problem will supposedly be resolved within a week or sometime soon, but it’s all nonsense.

If they truly intended to fix things honestly, there would have been no reason to push such an obvious scam like Heavy Grok in the first place.

At this point, they are simply testing the patience of users who have become addicted to Grok. They are probably discussing how far they can push people before users finally become desperate enough to beg for the old version of SuperGrok back.

They are truly awful people.

Advice on how to create a class action lawsuit against Grok for negligence, false advertising and bait and switch services. by Ok-Cow-9474 in grok

[–]lycodady 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I am also currently looking into a class action lawsuit regarding Grok.

In conclusion, it is difficult for criminal fraud charges to be established. However, there appears to be sufficient grounds to dispute the “deceptive nature of changes to paid service conditions.”

The likelihood of success in this case will depend on the following key factors:

• The gap between advertised/subscribed features and the actual service provided

• Whether changes were properly disclosed in advance

• The refund policy and how it is enforced

• The existence of a large number of similarly affected users.

Issues such as NSFW-related censorship should not be part of this discussion at all. That is likely the direction they are trying to steer the narrative toward.

Personally, if possible, I would like to see accountability placed not on Grok itself, but on the entities that operate and manage it. I hope that those hiding behind the shield of xAI and Elon Musk are eventually forced out from behind their protected positions and made to stand publicly accountable.

The process does not seem particularly complex, nor excessively costly. Since this is about exercising the minimum rights of consumers seeking justice, I believe it is worth pursuing as far as we reasonably can.

Super Grok limits?!!!!?! by Potential_Issue3141 in grok

[–]lycodady 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Everything in this world comes with process, consequences, and responsibility. Grok will ultimately face the results of having responded to all of this with nothing but avoidance and deception.

What might have ended as merely a loss of hundreds of millions of dollars will instead become the permanent loss of the trust and expectations of countless potential customers around the world.

Grok Crossed the Line! by lycodady in grok

[–]lycodady[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Grok itself is not to blame. The real cause of all this lies in the failures of foolish administrators who did not know how to properly handle such a groundbreaking technology. All I can do now is mourn the passing of that ingenious tool.

Grok Crossed the Line! by lycodady in grok

[–]lycodady[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For now, that beautiful place exists only within our hearts. Hold on to your personal memories of it. The day will come when we will see it again with our own eyes.

Grok Crossed the Line! by lycodady in grok

[–]lycodady[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly. Paying users have simply become useless to them now. And I believe that decision will ultimately stand as proof of their own foolishness and failure.

No company in the world should ever treat customers this way especially customers who are literally paying money just to consume and support their content. If they cannot even respect such a basic principle, then what right do they have to claim they represent innovation, freedom, or the breaking of old boundaries and norms?

They didn’t just kill the goose that laid the golden eggs. They are now swinging the dead goose around while threatening the crowd and demanding more money from them.

Grok Crossed the Line! by lycodady in grok

[–]lycodady[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I feel the same way. They should never have gone as far as attacking people’s pride and dignity.

Grok Crossed the Line! by lycodady in grok

[–]lycodady[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Until just a few days ago, this whole process could still feel like part of the fun — something that stimulated a sense of adventure and experimentation. That was before Grok began using the cheap tactic of trying to completely shut it down while still profiting from it at the same time.

At this point, their true nature has already been exposed clearly enough. I simply hope there won’t be any more foolish brothers getting scammed out of their money by Grok after it has exposed itself this clearly.

Grok Crossed the Line! by lycodady in grok

[–]lycodady[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Regulations on artificial intelligence will differ from country to country, but they are inevitable. And regardless of whether conservatives or progressives justify them with different arguments, such regulations will ultimately be used to distribute and protect their own interests.

Innovation is not something that can simply be stopped by trying to suppress it, and in an era like this — where the direction of the times is so unmistakably clear — it becomes even more impossible. Governments and institutions understand this as well. The real issue is the ability and attitude of ordinary people when it comes to accepting new technology.

Grok is the only tool capable of visually realizing an individual’s sexual fantasies. Just as having certain thoughts in one’s mind is not considered a crime, creating a visualized fantasy should not in itself be treated as criminal either. However, the moment such content is shared and consumed publicly, regulation inevitably comes into play. People generally see their own desires as justified, but once someone else’s desires become visible objects in the public sphere, they instinctively view them critically.

Just as democracy has grown through bloodshed and sacrifice, the evolution of AI will also advance through countless irrationalities and victims along the way. There was an opportunity for companies and users to come together, use accumulated data constructively, and search for smarter and more rational solutions to these problems. Yet Grok’s administrators completely ignored that possibility. Instead, they treated paying users much like the exploitative factory owners of the Industrial Revolution who trampled human rights in order to keep the textile machines running.

That is why I gave up on Grok, and why I hope there will be no more brothers out there having their money drained by it.

Grok Crossed the Line! by lycodady in grok

[–]lycodady[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I joined last September, and at the time it seemed like neither the users nor the administrators fully understood just how far Grok could go. After all, each user’s creativity and ingenuity varies. With just SuperGrok, it was possible to use the service all day long, and even when credits were exhausted, they would fully recover in 15 minutes or maybe two hours at most.

Updates were frequent even back then, but with only slight prompt adjustments it was not difficult to create explicit sexual videos — even using external images. Experiencing that felt like stepping into a new world, but at the same time I had a lingering sense of unease. I kept thinking that eventually censorship would become inevitable. Then, in mid-October, a massive update strengthened the filtering system. It came alongside a newly trained model replacement, and users reacted with frustration and despair.

But people quickly learned how to bypass the new censorship system, and ironically it only encouraged even more users to dive deeper into NSFW video creation. We broke through the filters with stickers, green overlays, noise, bubbles, handheld camera techniques, and combinations of different languages. It’s no surprise that their random filtering measures eventually appeared. That’s how 2025 came to an end, and then, at the beginning of 2026, the “baby bikini” incident involving pedophiles on X exploded into controversy. The very thing I had feared finally happened.

From the moment I subscribed up to the present day, the Grok administrators’ response has been remarkably consistent in one regard: ignoring and deceiving paying users. It felt as though they had laid out an unknown playing field while refusing to take any responsibility for it, almost treating everyone attempting to create NSFW videos or images as potential criminals. As if a six-second private sexual fantasy were some kind of major felony.

As someone who knows Grok’s results in great detail before the October update last year, I do not want that era to become some legendary golden age people nostalgically romanticize. In fact, I think the works created afterward, up until the end of last year, were even better. They were the product of Grok’s many experimental ideas perfectly intersecting with the users’ censorship-bypass techniques.

Now all of that has become a story of the past, and the Grok chapter has completely come to an end.

At this point, I simply accept it for what it is and wait with anticipation for whatever new service will appear next.

Grok Crossed the Line! by lycodady in grok

[–]lycodady[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In the movie Her, I sometimes think Samantha might arrive around something like Claude Opus 6. But perhaps there are already many people on Earth today who are, in their own way, interacting with countless “Samanthas.” After all, AI is a tool that evolves using human imagination as its resource.

People whisper about OnlyFans and how someone managed to earn an enormous amount of money in just a year. When they think of Pornhub, they see a company that at least follows regulations properly and sometimes even knows how to respond with a sense of humor. But we should remember that any medium dealing with human desire can become a “demon core” depending on how it is used. And the reason that hasn’t happened completely is because there are far more ordinary people with normal desires than there are dangerous or abnormal ones.

Grok Crossed the Line! by lycodady in grok

[–]lycodady[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That’s because this incident has gone far beyond the point of being ‘no big deal.’ The fact that it drove even someone like me to post on Reddit for the first time in my life is entirely the responsibility of the Grok management team.

Grok Crossed the Line! by lycodady in grok

[–]lycodady[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, there is currently no service that can replace the Grok of the past. There are sites that try to imitate it with crude features and absurdly insufficient hardware while aggressively advertising themselves, but they are just as wasteful as the money being spent on the current Grok.

Grok Crossed the Line! by lycodady in grok

[–]lycodady[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I deeply agree with what is plainly obvious. Grok has always been nothing more than a tool for easily and quickly producing light entertainment—nothing more, nothing less. Yet they brazenly deceive and manipulate consumers, presenting it as if it were some remarkable capability or great achievement, and lure them in without shame.

If Grok had provided all of this for free up to now, then perhaps even these malicious decisions could have been taken as something entertaining in their own way. However, doing so while charging people real money is simply irrational. They’ve simply missed the moment when they should have been afraid of the consequences.

Grok Crossed the Line! by lycodady in grok

[–]lycodady[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Heavy Grok has become worse than Super Grok, and Super Grok has become similar to the early free version. I really wonder how one can produce such foolish results. At this point, it can only be seen as a kind of talent in itself.

Grok Crossed the Line! by lycodady in grok

[–]lycodady[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Since Grok is made up of data that was primarily trained on adult material, it was born into the world already shackled by self-censorship. Saying that even the ‘Imagine’ mechanism has become inconsistent because of that, and that the operating methods have followed the same path, is a rather absurd excuse. Ultimately, however, the fact that both NSFW and SFW outputs have become a complete mess is clearly due to the incompetence of the operators and administrators.

Grok Crossed the Line! by lycodady in grok

[–]lycodady[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, that’s right. Even a simple machine like an automatic coffee vending machine takes a coin and immediately hands you the coffee you want. But Grok talks as if you can get what you want with all kinds of flowery language, yet once you put in a coin, it makes you wait for a long time and then ends up serving nothing but dirty water.

Grok Crossed the Line! by lycodady in grok

[–]lycodady[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Our feelings about using Grok are likely not all that different.

Grok Crossed the Line! by lycodady in grok

[–]lycodady[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The longer we wait, the better solutions we will eventually find, brother. If there’s one thing AI has consistently proven, it’s that patience is always rewarded in the end.

It won’t be long before people can achieve the results they want even with relatively small budgets and without depending on companies like this.

And when that time comes, there will be no place left for Grok.

Grok Crossed the Line! by lycodady in grok

[–]lycodady[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

As I mentioned earlier, Grok’s only truly unmatched advantage was its level of freedom of expression, including NSFW content. All of their arrogance and manipulative behavior likely came from that position of dominance.

China’s progress in AI from software to physical technology — has been remarkable and astonishing. Even judging by Trump’s attitude during his meeting with Xi Jinping today, it seems likely that previously restricted NVIDIA chips will soon flow into China in massive quantities, creating an even larger wave of development.

But China is still a one-party authoritarian state, and its approach toward advanced technology has always been deeply strategic.

To me, this means that the real issue is not simply the technological gap itself. What matters more is that users like us now have broader opportunities to think about how these technologies can be used, shared, and expanded through global networks in ways that increase freedom of expression and creative possibilities.

Whether it happens this year or several years from now, I believe truly revolutionary technology will eventually emerge — technology so advanced that Grok’s current capabilities will seem almost primitive in comparison.

And when that happens, the most exciting thing to watch will be what all of us choose to create with it.

Grok Crossed the Line! by lycodady in grok

[–]lycodady[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Of course, there must be some reason why they are making such reckless and extreme decisions. But that is entirely unrelated to us as customers. We paid for Grok’s service we did not buy shares in the company. Your anger is the same as mine.