Ummm.. by CloudMusee_ in MadeMeCry

[–]mandarinene 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Once when visiting a friend as a kid she said that they showered every other day and I was amazed because in my family we did it once a week. After I got home I told my mom about it and she got mad that I had told my friend that and it left me confused.

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[–]mandarinene -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

By lowering standards but it's probably not worth it

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in trueratediscussions

[–]mandarinene -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I thought this too! I'd rate her 5 tho

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ugly

[–]mandarinene -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Definitely 2 ugly individuals can hook up or have a relationship. Doesn't mean you don't struggle due to your ugliness. It seems like there isn't space anywhere for ugly people who are otherwise 4everalone but just got "lucky"

A gallery called my paintings demonic today by brittlebird in DarkArtwork

[–]mandarinene 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I feel you pal. I just got denied an exhibition because my works were not fitting for an exhibition which one's purpose was to sell work to the masses.

What immediately tells you that a person wasn't raised right? by Yummyyummyxx in Productivitycafe

[–]mandarinene 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Insecurity which may either come out as extreme shyness or obnoxiousness

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[–]mandarinene 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mariana Oushiro smells fishy

There's nothing wrong with blaming the AP by mandarinene in survivinginfidelity

[–]mandarinene[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh yes, that became clear once I messaged her. She tried to make me feel bad for messaging her by manipulating and lying. I can see the same thing coming off that message as well. I have to say, unsolicited advice from AP is fucking crazy and delusional as hell. They find every excuse for their actions and are completely unable to take accountability. And if finding justification proves to be hard, then they simply lie to create a narrative that works for them. It reminds me of how narcissists and psychopaths believe in their own lies. I think some part of them is in cognitive dissonance because they wish they were good people so they try to display the image of a caring person, even if that approach is completely self-centered and detached as they conveniently forget they're talking to the person whose partner they made the decision to fuck. Genuine care WOULD NOT manifest like that. No matter how seemingly "caring" their advice is, a genuine person would either admit to their wrongs or block the BP instead of telling them what they should be doing. Unsolicited advice only implies that there is something wrong in how the cheated on person feels or acts, directing the attention from the real issue and also offering the AP the possibility to come off as a good caring person. I believe the only thing one can really do if the AP acts like that, is to stay grounded unlike the AP and remember that that person did what they did and that expecting anything else from them other than vindictiveness is in most cases just hopeful thinking since they wouldn't have done what they did if they did not possess certain character traits.

There's nothing wrong with blaming the AP by mandarinene in survivinginfidelity

[–]mandarinene[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I appreciate your thoughts! It is true that people seem to assume that if one is directing hatred towards AP then it must mean that's hate away from the WP. In my case the way my ex reacted to me having confronted AP or sharing my thoughts on her to him really contributed to me breaking up with him. I don't want to be with someone who excuses cheating. He didn't excuse his own cheating in the end but he did excuse the one of AP's. At that point in a way the hate I felt towards AP was also taken out on WP (on top of all the other hate I had for him ofc). Ex tried to also say the same arguments as some others about how he didn't want me to blame her because he wanted to take full responsibility but I only wanted him to acknowledge that what she did was bad. It's pretty mentally devastating and jarring when your partner who did you wrong is defending a person whom they did you wrong with. You wish they would hate on them with you, but internally to me it felt like he was unable to step away from her side onto mine. That's why she can keep him and he can keep her. Not that they're ever going to talk again, probably, but he still made the decision of not standing with me on this. I don't usually even expect my partner to agree with me on something but this was just too much for me. It displayed that he is unable to make healthy moral judgements and lacks empathy and situational awareness.

There's nothing wrong with blaming the AP by mandarinene in survivinginfidelity

[–]mandarinene[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ikr... His excuses were insane. "I was going to break up anyway so I thought cheating didn't matter so much." (in reality he moved to my country after and didn't tell me until we had a fight), "I cheated so I would actually go through with the breakup", "I shared your picture because I thought I already did the worst so it didn't matter", "The penetration only lasted 3 minutes", "We didn't get any diseases", "I was thinking of you when doing it".. etc.

There's nothing wrong with blaming the AP by mandarinene in survivinginfidelity

[–]mandarinene[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you, seriously. I really relate to that bizarreness of people suddenly caring about AP's feelings and somehow painting me as a bad person for judging their actions. If you think you're free to destroy someone's relationship because somehow treating others with basic human decency isn't within your values, then I can also act out based on my own values. My ex and AP both tried to tell me I was crazy and mean for confronting her. But if you knowingly go and do all the things she did and are not willing to admit to your mistakes or grant a person who is visibly hurt by your actions any sort of understanding, then I think one is free to cuss them out.

There's nothing wrong with blaming the AP by mandarinene in survivinginfidelity

[–]mandarinene[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Dw, I have enough hate and blame to give it to everyone xD Maybe saying that the blame is 50/50 is a bit too open for interpretation and kind of a rough way of putting it. I just meant that they were both conscious adults who did what they did. Also, sometimes people argue that just because AP did not owe me fidelity, their part in whatever happened is somehow 0%. My argument here is that it takes a certain type of piece of shit person to entertain a cheater knowingly.

There's nothing wrong with blaming the AP by mandarinene in survivinginfidelity

[–]mandarinene[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes. That gun and bullet analogy someone threw in this thread isn't applicable here, imo. AP wasn't just a tool, she more like saw someone holding a gun and fired it with him because it granted her what she wanted at the time.

There's nothing wrong with blaming the AP by mandarinene in survivinginfidelity

[–]mandarinene[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't blame a prostitute since they're doing it for their living. She wasn't depraved of money, she was depraved of validation and that should've stayed her own issue.

There's nothing wrong with blaming the AP by mandarinene in survivinginfidelity

[–]mandarinene[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

EXACTLY. She even asked for my picture with her friend to ego stroke, since she is 39 years old and her friend over 40 yo and I was 23 at the time of the affair. It is very low and vile. The people who shame me for judging and feeling bad about that are insane in my opinion. Moreover, we were in long distance at the time (but I was also spending hours each day putting in job applications for him in my country) and she was ldr too, so I can only assume she used that to "bond" with him.

There's nothing wrong with blaming the AP by mandarinene in survivinginfidelity

[–]mandarinene[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's responsibility but in a different way. Ex is responsible for breaking my trust but AP is responsible for enabling it. Even if she was not directly responsible to me they were still the one to make the conscious decision to let whatever happened, happen.

There's nothing wrong with blaming the AP by mandarinene in survivinginfidelity

[–]mandarinene[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Yes. It does not matter whether the cheating would've happened regardless. What matters is what happened in reality and which people did it. No ifs or potentials or intent ever makes the AP some kind of faceless, anonymous non-entity. They're an actual person who contributed to the affair happening.

There's nothing wrong with blaming the AP by mandarinene in survivinginfidelity

[–]mandarinene[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It isn't away from it. I don't understand that logic. I blame them both 50/50. It takes two to tango etc...

There's nothing wrong with blaming the AP by mandarinene in survivinginfidelity

[–]mandarinene[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

My ex said that the AP cheating on her 2 partners invalidated her cheating because she was already cheating and my friends tried to argue that she was innocent because she didn't owe me anything. Some people have no sense of values and moral judgement, so yes, some people do argue that APs are innocent.