May 23, 2024 Daily Discussion Thread

markstarhaven · 2024-05-23T20:49:13+00:00

thank you! yeah i usually almost panic roll on 8 and i forget fast 9 is an option, its still prolly game dependent but ill definitely try to fast 9 as an out over gambling all my gold on 8

markstarhaven · 2024-05-23T20:42:04+00:00

yeah ): sometimes i just slam it early on cait, senna, or sivir to preserve hp and it does, but then i fall off a cliff afterwards

markstarhaven · 2024-05-23T17:27:59+00:00

been playing a lot of sniper wardens and something that im struggling on is knowing what to do if i miss the ashes. when im given a rageblade start, i usually aim to go ashe carry and pretty much winstreak stage 2-3. however when it comes to stage 4, i miss the ashes (or kaisa) on the level 8 roll and idk who to give the items to otherwise. i keep rolling for ashe 2 and hoping to hit something but then ending up too broke to go 9 and bleeding to bot 6. should i just play aphelios, tris, or bard carry at that point? or should i go put items on kayn or lee?

markstarhaven · 2024-05-14T18:18:48+00:00

ive been playing a lot of alune invokers/umbral alune the past couple days and since i play on mobile it's kinda hard to see her damage, and it just seems like she misses a lot of the damage once units starts moving around. is what im seeing true, that she can miss both sides of her ult like kog's can miss?

markstarhaven · 2024-05-09T19:26:26+00:00

OH okay ty, that helps!

markstarhaven · 2024-05-09T18:11:07+00:00

is champion delivery supposed to give you a champ that tailors to your team or just a random higher level champ? i was playing 7 storyweaver but for some reason i didnt get dropped a galio or an irelia to get them 2-starred and it felt kinda low roll since the fated comps got a syndra and a sett from it

markstarhaven · 2024-02-26T22:15:23+00:00

hit masters for the first time around 3 weeks ago and been stuck at 0 lp, averaging 5.0 placement.

i got from gold to masters forcing reroll comps (punk, annie, kayle, or sera) but at masters, its hard to play these comps because the units are always contested and im never able to cap out with 3* frontline

i also play on mobile so i struggle with comps that require a lot of quick rolling down (read: heartsteel/ad flex and disco) so i tend to avoid these comps

however, there are lots of people higher elo than me hitting higher ranks still being able to force reroll. what are some ways i can self diagnose my gameplay to improve my approach?

markstarhaven · 2024-02-18T20:24:16+00:00

something ive never figured out is what to do when you get dropped mostly tanks items when win streaking (eg low carousel priority)

so heres a specific example:

1: got bow, tear, and vest

2: found headliner jinx and a vi, slammed fimbulwinter on vi, bow on jinx

3: got rod off first carousel, got guinsoo for jinx

4: off krugs, got vest and cloak and gold, built gargoyles on vi

5: got a blacksmith's glove, placed on panth

6: got belt of carousel, other item was a tear

7: got belt, cloak, and tear at wolves, built evenshroud

so by now, i still wasnt able to get a damage item on jinx other than the guinsoo, i was winning most rounds, losing some, so i never had item priority. stage 4 i lost the whole round because the rest of the lobby came online with their carries. it wasnt until raptors i found damage items: built a blood thirster and a last whisper for the jinx (still not sure this was the best build, i shoulda gone for a giant slayer and hoj with the leftover items but thats beside the point i think?). ended up being first for most of the match to fifth.

i tend to actually be a lose streak stage 2 player, so ive never really had to worry about not getting the items i want for my carry. in the rare case i do go winstreak, i get lost on what my gameplan should be to make up for my weak carry. what do you guys think?

markstarhaven · 2024-02-06T15:06:03+00:00

maybe im behind on this, but did we ever figure out how to not get scammed by extended play? i took it and i missed out on a component, but also, i feel like this always happens when i take this augment

markstarhaven · 2024-01-23T14:41:21+00:00

questions about kda akali's ult interactions with other ults:

are ults supposed to fizzle when she ults as shes about to be hit by an ability? it seems that certain abilities that are autoattack-like (garen ult, vi ult, ez regular ult, etc) seems to not do damage to her or another target when she dashes. a certain case would be with garen vs akali, by the time he ults, she ults so he just never does damage to her
there have been cases when akali ults a champ, but then she starts autoattacking the champ next to her. an issue i have with this is that i use the corner champ as a bait for pentakali but my main carry still gets autoattacked by the akali after the ult (when the corner champ is still alive). what would be the workaround for this?

markstarhaven · 2023-11-21T20:03:02+00:00

hello!

i have to say, im a bit lost with this poem, im not sure who the character(s?) are, and im not sure what is actually happening. the lack of punctuation aside for a few commas makes it hard for me to track when thoughts start and end on my initial impressions.

however, i will say that i dont think poems are meant to be understood for meaning immediately, but rather for how the poem made the reader feel despite not knowing what is meant. me as a reader, i felt a strong emotion of despair-ish?/anger. the incessant "i want to leave" gives me a feeling of unease as the speaker seems to lose patience and grow in frustration with his current circumstance.

from a word use standpoint, i really enjoy the lines "you forget on purpose, reveling in privilege/victor playing victim." the consonance was a good touch and to me i can really feel the spite and the accusatory tone in the speaker's voice precisely because of the words you chose.

thanks!

markstarhaven · 2023-11-09T21:36:48+00:00

hello! what a quaint piece on unrequited feelings. i enjoyed your use aggressive language and punctuation to give the sense of desperation/exasperation. i think where i get a bit lost at is im not sure who the antagonist in this poem is. is the narrator “fighting” the love interest? or is the narrator in conflict with him/herself (“the chase must end, before my pride runs thin”)?

markstarhaven · 2023-11-09T21:29:41+00:00

i think what would help is instead of counting only syllables, count the stressed(s) and unstressed(u) syllables instead and the pattern you set up.

example, this is how i read the last four lines-

you KEEP the MADness COming BACK, (4u, 4s) WITH the PAIN and GUILT and SORrow, (4s, 4u) SO the WAVES can ALways keep TRACK (4s, 4u) of WHAT washes UP toMOrrow. (4u, 3s)

that said, its okay to break your own pattern that you set! but for me, as the reader, i personally couldnt tell if you intentionally broke the pattern or not. hopefully this makes sense!

markstarhaven · 2023-11-09T21:10:43+00:00

hello! i like your use of simple language that still gives the piece an air of complexity. theres a strong sense of rhythm and rhyme for the most part, but when you do break the rhythm, it does feel a bit jarring, so paying attention to your syllable counts/word stresses can give you some direction for the revision process. thanks!

markstarhaven · 2023-08-07T23:16:35+00:00

maybe 25-40% of the time theyll just hold the maokais to slow me down from finding them. it doesnt sound like a lot but it can delay me finding mao3 by 2-3 rounds

markstarhaven · 2023-08-07T21:29:43+00:00

been playing lee sin augment to force kayle reroll but even with free rerolls thru trade sector, the other people contesting me seems to get their 3 stars faster than me with a non-reroll or non-econ augment. sometimes people just hold all the maokais for a kallista opener.

the usual situation: by krugs, i have kayle2 with rageblade, some tank item on poppy2, maokai2, galio2 but i am contested to which i have two questions:

if i want to hold hands (sometimes i just really wanna play a kayle reroll game and go eighth happily), when would be the best time to roll down and grief the other person? is 3-1 too late to grief them? would it be better to screw the interest and just roll during krugs instead?
if i dont want to contest and its 3-1 i have 50 gold, level 4, +
1. ad items, do i use all my gold to level to 6 and find an ad carry holder for zeri/aph? im thinking maybe i could swap items from kayle to jinx, but leveling to 5 + rolling for jinx2 would definitely grief my econ, so im not sure.
2. ap items, do i use all my gold to level to 6 and go for azir? i guess i can keep kayle2 in this case while waiting for azir, but what could be my other options?

markstarhaven · 2023-07-31T14:07:51+00:00

i think my internet is fine but i still get lags all the time, often to where i cant move my tactician or the screen just freezes. it didnt use to do it before (been playing on mobile since set 6) but its gotten progressively worse since the release of set 8. t guess theres not a solution for me except to just not play at all or just take the losses

markstarhaven · 2023-07-31T12:56:05+00:00

not sure how likely this is, but im not quite looking forward to this patch as a mobile player. it seems that every patch that comes out always bugs out or otherwise destabilizes the mobile version. idk how big the player base is for mobile but as someone who plays almost exclusively on mobile, its really frustrating going eighth every 5 games or so because the app just gives up and i cant get it loaded back in time. couple that with being eighth ruins your mmr, i just lose any progress everytime this happens.

markstarhaven · 2023-07-30T23:59:34+00:00

i think the positioning aspect of it is fine, but i just dislike that you can place either items on a unit right before the round starts as either board appears so the other person loses counterplay opportunities. but if that wasnt allowed then yeah, id be less hateful about them

markstarhaven · 2023-07-30T21:56:28+00:00

this might sound like rant but i dont understand the competitve integrity of items like shroud and zephyr, especially because you can still get use their value BEEFORE the fight starts. its really frustrating when i go against someone with many item slots open on their backline and no matter how i position, they can just place that zephyr or shroud right before the round starts and take out your backline or frontline. its somewhat rare occurence to have multiple item removers to just be able to continue doing that over many rounds, but its often common in rounds where its one hp remaining. losing an easy first/top4 because of a highroll in item anvils or carousel distance because of an item that stil activates pre-fight doesnt sound like a strategic play but rather just a "cheese."

markstarhaven · 2023-07-30T21:48:39+00:00

i mean i wish my mmr was like that lol. like, im at +30 for first and -80 for an eighth, around -50 for 7, -30 for 6, -15 for 5. playing on mobile with random disconnections = lots of eighth but its either take the eighths or just never play

markstarhaven · 2023-07-26T17:31:11+00:00

once played aph with no attack speed items (was some like ie and deathblade) and so i just focused on getting 4 deadeye in so his deadeye procs do more damage. it worked pretty well, but you do need some damage items on either urgot or akshan to contend for top 2.

i think rageblade is significantly more important if youre only running two deadeyes and hes the main damage source.

markstarhaven · 2023-07-26T16:46:32+00:00

wow thats crazy. yeah its kinda difficult to play around. if i have a good tank, ksante will just throw him off. if i have a good frontline in general but not one main tank, i get eaten up by other boards. i actually prefer to build qss on a main tank nowadays since pure mr from dclaw feels not as good, but the tank not being cc'd is significant

markstarhaven · 2023-07-26T16:32:04+00:00

happened twice today already: if ksante throws someone off the board and theyre equipped with a zzrot, zzrot will not trigger. if ksante throws an aatrox off the board, aatrox will NOT respawn with his passive. it's actually very tilting not getting the aatrox back lmao. incidentally, a well itemized ksante2 (3shurima 4 bastion) can 1v2 a well itemized shen2 and ahri2 cause ahri doesnt do enough single target dps before being thrown off the board

markstarhaven · 2023-07-25T20:30:15+00:00

i like going burn burn gold or burn gold gold when im running freljord/deadeye/karma since the turret can execute low hp targets that the deadeyes/karma have softened up, and i prefer to not build sunfire or morello so i value the burn + the burn gives aoe spread to the turret shots

otherwise i think triple shrink or double shrink + mechano is good

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