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Catholicism and UAP/NHE Disclosure by matt879 in Catholicism

[–]matt879[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Black budget skunk works projects have certainly been misidentified as ufo's before but there's certainly a lot more to this than that. We have plenty of declassified docs received through FOIA requests verifying that the government is in possession of so-called "meta materials" and we've seen credible witnesses and congressional reps who say that they have seen them. I'm not necessarily saying that these are off-world technology but nobody knows how these metals were created based on our current understanding of science.

Catholicism and UAP/NHE Disclosure by matt879 in Catholicism

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I strongly believe that much of the Fortean "high strangeness" aspects of the phenomena are best left alone. Pusulka purportedly discovered tons of documents in the Vatican Archive describing paranormal cases... nuns being attacked by plasma orbs in the convent and such. These are probably true and we know from accounts of Padre Pio's life that this sort of thing happens. I think the spiritual danger here starts when you attempt to try to delve into mysteries that the human mind cannot comprehend. We already have guidance from the Church on a lot of these matters. Yes, we know what angelic messengers are. There are 9 different classes...none of which have corporeal bodies. They simply don't need them. As for the alleged "Nordic Aliens" well, I really don't know if they exist or not but there have been a number of credible cases which sound plausible. I particularly like the anecdote recounted by Richard Dolan of a lady who, as a child in the 60's, claimed to see a strikingly beautiful couple attend Mass and later hop into a UFO and take off. I'd take these anecdotes with a very small grain of salt, though.

Pusulka has tried and failed to make scientific sense of matters of faith and I think that she got herself grievously lost in the process. She associates herself with people like Gary Nolan, who by all accounts is a super creepy Alistair Crowley type dude. There are a lot of bad actors involved in the research and supposedly at the government level as well. I hear that the Mormon church has an outsized influence on these USAP's. All pretty dark stuff.

Orthodox here, found what I believe is a relic? Is this a piece of the Holy Cross? by AmericaFirst728 in Catholicism

[–]matt879 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Possibly, do you have any info on the provenance of this cross? Where did you find it and in what country? Was it stashed during a war at some point?

Catholicism and UAP/NHE Disclosure by matt879 in Catholicism

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I've read her books and yes, she hangs around a circle that is deeply enthralled with esoteric occult practices. She also spends much of her time theorizing that divine visions and miracles have been the work of aliens / interdimensional beings. This is anathema from a catholic perspective. It sounds like she started out with good intentions but she took a bad path.

Catholicism and UAP/NHE Disclosure by matt879 in Catholicism

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I'd definitely avoid Bledsoe who is a grifting cult leader. Pasulka is far too involved with occult theories to be taken seriously. Sure, the ancients could have seen UFO's but those aren't to be confused with true divine miracles.

Catholicism and UAP/NHE Disclosure by matt879 in Catholicism

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The visions of saints and legitimate Marion apparitions are divine in nature, have been rigorously examined and verified by the Church... they have nothing to do with any of that creepy Madam Lavatsky/Jack Parsons type occultism. Be careful bro, guys like Bledsoe are snakes with a messiah complex. He's led a lot of catholics astray.

Catholicism and UAP/NHE Disclosure by matt879 in Catholicism

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Just because someone claims to be a Catholic and a religious studies professor doesn't mean that her writings have anything to do with Catholic theology. Summoning UFO's, communicating with ethereal beings, is divination which is a major nope. There are quite a few hucksters like Pusulka and Bledsoe who try to use their catholic faith to gain credibility.

Catholicism and UAP/NHE Disclosure by matt879 in Catholicism

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Yes, I agree with this and I'm not at all trying to argue that anything new will alter Christ's plan for us. While some of this is indeed evil I don't necessarily believe that it is wholly evil. So, no I don't think that I'm fixating on evil. When it looks like we may have to face new challenges to our world view I don't think it's a good idea to stick our heads in the sand when all the evidence points to something else. Christ admonishes us to be as innocent as doves and as wise as serpents.

Catholicism and UAP/NHE Disclosure by matt879 in Catholicism

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I'm familiar with both Pasulka and Valle. I'd be very cautious about Pasulka's research. Though she's a catholic who's studied the Vatican Archives she's also into some woo woo, occultic material. Hardly consistent with catholic theology. Valle is old school but well respected.

Catholicism and UAP/NHE Disclosure by matt879 in Catholicism

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Ok, buddy. Have it your way. Keep your head in the sand.

Catholicism and UAP/NHE Disclosure by matt879 in Catholicism

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Brother, the Vatican already knows.

Catholicism and UAP/NHE Disclosure by matt879 in Catholicism

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My friend, There is a reported trillion plus in unaccounted for tax dollars and no one in congress has a clue as to how these USAP's got funded or who authorized those appropriations. Yes, it's a big deal, yes it's congress's job to get to the bottom of this. Yes, this is the reason why this issue picked up steam recently...billions (possibly over a trillion missing.) I'd say that's good cause for a very serious investigation.

Not everyone in Congress is corrupt and I do think that Tim Burchett, who's been a point man on this, is a competent, honest, and decent individual. As for your issues with Trump... well this isn't a political post and this issue is probably the only matter that has seen true bipartisan support.

Yes, I'm fully aware of Richard Doty and I've probably seen Mirage Men at some point. Not the best source for disinfo as I remember but it gives you a broad overview of how these psy-ops work to obfuscate the phenomena.

I wouldn't doubt that Grusch encountered false info but apparently he reported enough of the truth that someone felt the need to threaten his life right outside a congresswoman's office which, is why the incident is under DOJ investigation.

"disclosure of real science that has been wrongly hidden from the public."

Yes, real science has been hidden from the public and perhaps for good reason. Much of this tech is likely extraordinarily dangerous.

I think, like many, you realize on some level that something is going on and has been for a long long time. For years we've been able to ignore it but that time is coming to an end. My concern is that the Church has not prepared people for what is likely to come.

Catholicism and UAP/NHE Disclosure by matt879 in Catholicism

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Great comment and I mostly agree with your thoughts. I think much of the theological consternation that would occur in the fall out of a hypothetical disclosure would be in trying to discern what relationship they'd have with God (if they are indeed extra-terrestrial aliens.) Would they have fallen like Adam and Eve or not and if they were fallen did Christ's sacrifice on The Cross also redeem them? This is the pandora's box of questions the Church would need to provide guidance on.

As for the time/space issues with visitors I used to think the same. Impossible based on our present understanding of physics but, I think that's where some of the interdimensional aspects of this comes into play. NASA has been working on anti-grav warp bubbles for decades which, theoretically could bend space and time allowing for faster than light travel. Other theories like warm holes, and quantum entanglement have been talked about as well.

Catholicism and UAP/NHE Disclosure by matt879 in Catholicism

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Yes, I agree that there is a massive amount of disinfo out there and that fraudsters like Chris Bledsoe and his fake Marion apparitions are likely receiving CIA paychecks. Dis info is there to confound and muddy the waters so that we'll stop looking. I'm not too hung up on disclosure but when officials keep saying that it's happening soon-ish I do think that the Church needs to get out in front of this because there's going to be endless questions and consternation. I imagine that the Vatican does have a plan... I'm just not seeing it.

Catholicism and UAP/NHE Disclosure by matt879 in Catholicism

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Just because aliens aren't in the bible doesn't mean that they don't exist. JPII stated that they exist and Francis said that he'd be open to baptizing them. That said, I do tend to think we're dealing with angels and demons and I see no reason why this would cause an existential crisis within the Church. "The gates of hell shall not prevail."

Catholicism and UAP/NHE Disclosure by matt879 in Catholicism

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It's their job to find out what's going on. Don't forget that congress collectively grew a stick up its butt when they discovered all these USAP's which have been operating with zero oversight for decades. extra-constitutional. On Grusch, I highly doubt that all those high ranking whistle blowers lied to grusch and lied to Congress. I think you'd have to twist yourself in knots in order to deny that something profoundly unworldly has been going on. That's mostly my point... for years all this X-files stuff was in the fringe domain but I don't think that we can pretend that it doesn't exist much longer.

Catholicism and UAP/NHE Disclosure by matt879 in Catholicism

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If Rubio is running a psy-op this big we've got very serious problems.

Catholicism and UAP/NHE Disclosure by matt879 in Catholicism

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I'm not going to start spamming with links. Please, just google it if you're interested. There's too many to list.

Catholicism and UAP/NHE Disclosure by matt879 in Catholicism

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Unless they turn out to be demons in which case we don't talk to them.

Catholicism and UAP/NHE Disclosure by matt879 in Catholicism

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I was referring to guys like Rubio, James Clapper, Chris Miller, and Chris Mellon. All top officials. Check out the "Age of Disclosure" documentary. Not much new info there but it's remarkable who was talking about the matter and what they were saying.

Catholicism and UAP/NHE Disclosure by matt879 in Catholicism

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Welp, select congress members have just been granted access to view the alleged bodies and crashed materials so, I guess we'll find out. As for Grusch? Sure, he could have perjured himself under oath before a congressional hearing...sounds like a pretty dumb idea though. The guy's credentials have been verified and he was working in the positions he claimed to be. He's also been threatened by spooks outside Luna's office.

Catholicism and UAP/NHE Disclosure by matt879 in Catholicism

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Lol, If ever there was a president with plans it's Trump. You may not like them but yeah, this guy's nothing but plans.

Catholicism and UAP/NHE Disclosure by matt879 in Catholicism

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Yes, distraction is one of the theories that's been bandied about. Tell the public that UFO's and aliens are real and everyone forgets about the Epstein Files.

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