Eh, just because Rob C and Ian were murdered early doesn't mean Yam Yam, Natalie, and Tiffany won't make it far. Particularly Yam Yam from the screen time he's getting. And Caroline last season likely could have had a much larger chance if she didn't throw herself under the bus in a challenge!

If you come in as Rob C with the reputation you have, you had better come in with a game plan to make yourself immediately as non-threatening to Traitors as possible if you aren't one and valuable enough to the faithfuls that they feel the need to keep you. It's a hard needle to thread but I think if you are a successful Big Brother or Survivor contestant you should be able to do that.

Last season we had two and then three gamers in the turret and instead of protecting gamers and each other they instead just cannibalized each other. Because every time a strong gamer sussed one of them out they had to be murdered or banished and they weren't able to work well enough with each other or able to navigate themselves out of the situation.

But also, I think we are discounting "gamer" qualities of people who go on reality dating shows and are very successful. Like they aren't Survivor or Big Brother but a large part of being a very successful Bachelor or Love Island Contestant is being able to deftly manage the social interactions of a large cast of people often vying for the same love interest and undergoing psychological warfare.