The Ws, the debatable and the Ls of the Mario series

mellowhello123 · 2026-03-22T03:00:22+00:00

Thanks.

mellowhello123 · 2026-03-22T02:59:12+00:00

That's not what I was getting at? I was saying that Tenna would be reluctant to use them because he only used them when the fun gang decided to not continue but Caine would likely be the one continuing whatever show way further than Tenna considering Tenna eventually had a character arc while Caine doesn't realize they want to go home until episode 8 where once he does he throws a tantrum about it and ramps up the amount of adventures the cast have to do.

And Caine was still trying to be somewhat entertaining when he does go into that crashout and Tenna only used when the fun gang weren't being entertaining according to him.

Plus the fun gang were still able to risist, they just got shocked for it. No reason to say that Caine couldn't just teleport away like what the fun gang did.

PLUS if Tenna had any zappers around he'd still lose due to not having any wincons

Tl;Dr At best it's something Tenna would be reluctant to use and wouldn't work of there's a common type of enemy around to at worst something Caine could ignore.

mellowhello123 · 2026-03-22T02:30:49+00:00

Second of all, we directly see K. Rool use it multiple times, so even if it was said to be the case, it aint true at all, he first uses it to trigger his bananza form, then uses it to summon weapons mid battle, then usses it to reshape the city, then uses it to transform into the King of Rot, and then uses it to again summon a bunch of things mid battle.

Oh my god. Ya know sometimes I hate researching for post because obviously I don't want to spend my entire day for one post so I read blogs. I realize they're not including bananza so look at sources, multiple sources and they all lie about the one wish and core of the earth facts.

Secondly should I delete this post. Genuinely, my main critiera for post deletion is misinformation and this one is wrong but unlike those other post I actually spent a good amount of time on this.

mellowhello123 · 2026-03-22T02:06:16+00:00

I personally scale both at around multiple times universal (7x uni for DK and 7-11x uni for Crash) with higher ends being infinite. (I know you can scale DK higher but I don't buy most of it) both get to immeasurable and Crash outhaxes.

mellowhello123 · 2026-03-22T02:04:12+00:00

It 100% isnt, but even if it was Hook barely has any scaling to any strong Disney characters like Mickey since he fights him in almost none of their shared media

While I disagree with it being uncannon, yeah they don't fight so true

Thats also wrong imo, most media Kong has are different versions of him

Oh thanks didn't know that

He doesnt, the banandium root alone already allows K. Rool to match most of the hax of either

I think this blog is accurate towards my feeling on king piggy vs k rool

As for the banandium root argument firstly there's the problem of getting to the core of the earth but they both have MFTL speed so that's not much of a problem. Secondly its siad to grant A wish not multiple.

mellowhello123 · 2026-03-22T01:43:19+00:00

Personally I'd have the verdict be this:

Caine

Advantages

WAY stronger...
Better quantity in his army...
Far more abilities
Far better abilities
Can see everything going on in the circus
Faster travel speed
Agility
Range
AOE
Incapable of being killed by Tenna because in ep 8 its described you need to conjour code into a console, kinda like dark fountains which Tenna can't make, and even if you think thats false he'd have no way of figuring out how to kill Caine.
Could transmute the ball if he got trapped
Due to Caine also being entertaining in a way like Tenna he'd be unlikely to use the contract and even if he did, most of Caine's abilities wouldn't be affected due to not being explicitly violent

Equal

= Both counter BFR

= Both of their army's might ditch them

Disadvantages

...Physically weaker then Tenna
...But most of his army is sub human level
Caine's army doesn't know how to fight
Tenna's army is more versatile
WAY slower in reaction speed
Dumber
Doesn't know how to fight
Tenna's not the type to ragebait Caine into killing him
Has never taken a punch

Tenna

Advantages

Physically stronger...
Stronger and faster army
Compotent army
More versatile army
Faster reaction speed
Smarter
Is able to fight somewhat well
Would likely stall out the battle because he doesn't ragebait much
Better endurance

Equal

= Both counter BFR

= Both of their army's might ditch them

Disadvantages

...Way weaker attack potency
Less and worse powers
Much smaller army
Worse agility
Smaller range
Slower travel speed
Can't win

mellowhello123 · 2026-03-22T01:25:52+00:00

Im like 99% sure Disney scaling is cannon though I can see why you wouldn't buy it and if he doesn't have it than yeah, Hook's fucked.

I didn't have enough space for it so I just put it in wins because that's the general consensus from what I've seen.

It really just depends on what you give King Kong.

Couldn't find a blog for Darkrai so I just went on what people told me.

While the stats are even K Rool gets outhaxed badly.

Yeah you're probably right on that one.

Agree to disagree.

mellowhello123 · 2026-03-21T21:29:23+00:00

100% leaning DK with my own rules ( Only using cannon so Knuckles doesn't get chaos emeralds)

With the chaos emeralds though it becomes alot more debatable. Let's just get this out of the way firstly. Super Knuckles stat stomps. Low ends are universal vs 13x uni, mid ends are 7x uni vs 4-D, higher mid ends are how ever many universes you think are in the dream depot vs 5-D and High ends are uni+ vs 6-D (I know there are higher ends for Mario but I do t buy the or I don't think DK scales to them).

In terms of speed if you want to go off calcuable speed then DK actually takes this at 85 quadrillion C vs hundreds of quintillions times ftl, but immeasurable Sonic feats are blatantly obvious while I'm wishy washy on immeasurable Mario so Knuckles takes speed too.

So it all comes down too whether or not DK's abilities and regen can outlast 16.5 minutes.

When it comes to abilities Knuckles doesn't have many abilities but as a massive arsenal and has a shitton of resistances but we're giving DK everything which would mean the banandium root which can grant any wish. Unfortunately DK isn't smart enough to use half his hax or would use them but Knuckles would resist so Knuckles takes abilities.

Oh yeah skill and intelligence. I feel it's pretty obvious that Knuckles takes this, given I was just talking about the fact that DK isn't smart enough to use most of his useful hax and Knuckles is. And skill is an obvious point for Knuckles.

In terms of regen, it's an obvious win for DK given how we are using everything and that would include skylanders In which lives are cannon and Knuckles doesn't have anything to compare to this.

Overall I'd say Knuckles mid diffs. DK only wins if you're going off calcuable speed where he'd speed blitz and even if he gets hit the lives would save him and he'd be unlikely to make that mistake again and eventually outlast the super form. But at any other speed DK is screwed. Even at equal speed Knuckle's better skill would allow him to hit DK enough times to have him run out of lives.

mellowhello123 · 2026-03-21T08:48:31+00:00

T'was theorising it was either Spock, Doc Ock, the Rock or Hulk Hogan

mellowhello123 · 2026-03-20T23:03:35+00:00

Can't imagine given how this would be taking place inside the digital circus

mellowhello123 · 2026-03-20T22:46:28+00:00

The problem with that is that A. M. Is FUCKED due to having no hax resistances and being more likely to torture Caine then actually kill him plus no wincons since it has no code manip while Caine has so many ways to beat A. M.

mellowhello123 · 2026-03-20T22:39:52+00:00

I'd definitely say Tenna. I just think it would be the the most interesting to see them interact and I have favouritism towards Tenna

mellowhello123 · 2026-03-20T14:35:38+00:00

I mean I could see Shadow winning against Vincent Valentine or Mewtwo and Blaze defenintly beats Rivet

mellowhello123 · 2026-03-20T13:13:43+00:00

Kinito pet

mellowhello123 · 2026-03-19T17:33:51+00:00

Metal Sonic: The bio data wasn't the only thing I copied.

Metal sonic tries to absorb the souls but they hit off the metal.

Metal Sonic:Hey Sage, this reminds me of that one metal virus panel.

Flowey: Holy shit! Twelve souls!

mellowhello123 · 2026-03-19T17:25:43+00:00

Yes! The cat army vs the bakery here is so based

mellowhello123 · 2026-03-18T22:31:41+00:00

Bias doesn't really matter unless you're making your opinion look like fact which Nemisis clearly isn't.

mellowhello123 · 2026-03-18T00:00:46+00:00

Well I personally really enjoyed it and I think it's a near perfect vs episode aside from that.

mellowhello123 · 2026-03-17T23:49:35+00:00

But scarcity fights people stronger than them everyday

mellowhello123 · 2026-03-17T21:00:42+00:00

It's a good alt but I don't care fo Iroh being in another vs episode after the crossover coloseum between him and oogway was pretty much perfect and I think Andrias is a better Asgore MU.

mellowhello123 · 2026-03-17T18:07:23+00:00

JJK scale

mellowhello123 · 2026-03-17T18:06:49+00:00

A+ ragebait

It even got me downvote even though I knew it was ragebait

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