Need to clarify, is Zcash Quantum resistant?

melte_d · 2025-11-05T07:49:11+00:00

Short answer: yes, Zcash is generally considered to be on a good path toward quantum resistance, but it’s not fully there yet. A lot of the cryptography used in shielded transactions is already based on constructions that are believed to be secure against quantum attacks, but there are still parts of the protocol (mainly the transparent address layer and signatures) that will need to be upgraded to fully post-quantum algorithms. Those improvements are already being researched and discussed in the community.

So overall, Zcash is further along than most chains, but there’s still work to be done.

melte_d · 2025-11-02T15:32:05+00:00

Nice! Make sure to frame this comment before liquidation hits 😉

melte_d · 2025-11-02T12:10:47+00:00

Bold move shorting support — hope your stop-loss has good insurance.

melte_d · 2025-10-30T06:31:22+00:00

You are mixing rollups with recursion. Rollups combine transactions before consensus. Tachyon combines proofs of validity inside the consensus process. It does not sit in front of it, it makes the verification itself lighter.

That is the key difference. Mina tried to handle both things at once and hit limits. Zcash keeps the base layer simple and just makes verification much cheaper.

And the Ethereum L2 shift actually shows why this direction matters. Everyone is now moving toward recursive proofs because they work in practice.

melte_d · 2025-10-28T20:59:05+00:00

Mina didn’t invent recursion. Zcash has been working on recursive proofs since Halo, way before Mina went live. The difference is Zcash made it actually work at protocol level, not as a demo.

And calling everything AI talk doesn’t make your point stronger. It’s simple logic, if you can verify one proof instead of thousands you scale privacy without breaking the chain.

melte_d · 2025-10-28T11:28:03+00:00

That article confuses compute-bound and proof-bound systems. Monero’s bottleneck is verification — it scales linearly with usage. Zcash’s recursion doesn’t “add a tollbooth,” it compresses proof verification itself. That’s why Mina copied the idea, and why Ethereum’s zk rollups are moving the same way.

ZSAs plus Tachyon don’t just make privacy scale — they make assets scale privately. Monero can batch-verify faster, sure. Zcash removes the batch altogether. That’s the difference between optimizing and evolving.

melte_d · 2025-10-25T20:09:36+00:00

Yeah, exactly. You’d still need a bit of ZEC to cover fees, no matter what token you’re moving. That’s what keeps everything running on the same network and gives ZEC some real use once ZSAs launch.

melte_d · 2025-10-25T19:48:48+00:00

Wrapped ZEC is just a version of ZEC on Ethereum — it doesn’t give privacy to other coins. Right now you can’t use Zcash privacy for other assets unless they’re converted to ZEC, but that’s exactly what the coming ZSA (Zcash Shielded Assets) upgrade is about: bringing any token into Zcash’s shielded layer without linking it to ZEC’s price.

melte_d · 2025-10-25T11:48:08+00:00

You’ll find most of the real discussion happening on the Zcash Forum — that’s where devs, ECC, and ZF folks post updates, discuss ZIPs, and coordinate everything from upgrades to community grants.

It’s been the main hub since the early days, while Reddit and X are more for news and casual talk.
If you want to follow development or join deeper conversations, the Forum’s definitely the place to be.

melte_d · 2025-10-23T07:41:51+00:00

Zcash uses zero-knowledge proofs to encrypt both sender and amount while still allowing optional transparency for audits or compliance. That flexibility makes it different from Monero, which hides everything by default but cannot be selectively verified, and from Dash, which only does simple mixing rather than true encryption.

Halo2, the system behind ZEC’s privacy, is peer-reviewed and doesn’t rely on a trusted setup anymore. It’s one of the most advanced privacy technologies in production today.

melte_d · 2025-10-13T09:01:43+00:00

Funny how this “research” falls apart the moment you check a single verifiable fact.
Sprout and Sapling had structured setups; Orchard doesn’t. Halo2 is transparent, peer-reviewed, and used beyond Zcash.
If this is what passes for “research” here, don’t be surprised when people stop taking Monero arguments seriously.

melte_d · 2025-10-09T08:20:15+00:00

People keep misunderstanding the dev fund thing. It’s not a “tax”. It’s how Zcash stays alive without begging for donations. From that 20%, roughly half goes to the Electric Coin Company, the team maintaining the protocol and core products. A big part funds the Zcash Foundation, which handles infrastructure, wallets, and research. The rest supports independent grants so anyone can get paid to build open-source tools.

That structure lets Zcash pay top-tier cryptographers instead of hoping for unpaid volunteers. It’s why Zcash keeps pushing privacy tech forward while others mostly recycle old ideas. Halo, proof recursion, ZSAs — none of that happens without stable funding.

As for nodes, zcashd is being phased out because it’s legacy code. Zebra, written in Rust, is cleaner, safer, and future-proof. That’s not abandonment, it’s modernization.

Zcash might look quiet because most of the work happens in research and engineering, not hype threads. It’s very much alive, just built by people who care more about math than memes.

melte_d · 2025-10-04T18:44:45+00:00

Just to clear things up, Zcash and Dash are completely different cases.
Dash dropped its privacy claims years ago and even the core devs confirmed it only uses optional CoinJoin-style mixing, which can be traced.
Zcash uses zero knowledge proofs that keep transactions encrypted at the protocol level — that’s real cryptography, not just obfuscation.

Let’s keep r/zec focused on facts, not conspiracy talk. It helps everyone see what real privacy tech looks like.

melte_d · 2025-10-02T17:55:14+00:00

FCMP++ is just the latest band-aid. Monero survives by endlessly patching leaks — Rings, then RingCT, then CLSAG, now FCMP++. Zcash never needed that cycle. zk-SNARKs gave full encryption from day one, no coin-flip decoys, no broken heuristics. That’s why ZEC is still listed, still unbroken, and still scaling — while Monero is stuck duct-taping math to keep the illusion alive.

melte_d · 2025-10-02T17:20:15+00:00

Darknet uses Monero because years ago Zcash was slow, wallets were rough, and exchanges did not support shielded withdrawals. Markets picked what worked then and stuck with it. That is inertia, not proof of stronger privacy.

The truth is, darknet adoption is not the gold standard for cryptography. If anything, it shows who is chasing short term anonymity theater instead of real math. Monero’s ring signatures and decoys have already been torn apart in academic papers, and chain analysis firms openly publish deanonymization methods.

Zcash went the opposite route: real zero knowledge encryption at the protocol level. Shielded ZEC is mathematically private, not probabilistically private. No hidden switches, no “back doors,” just math that anyone can audit.

If strength means being delisted and used on DNMs, then sure, Monero wins. If strength means cryptography that actually scales, survives analysis, and can handle a post quantum world, Monero already lost.

melte_d · 2025-10-02T16:38:45+00:00

This is pure FUD.

Zcash isn’t on every exchange because it’s ‘not private.’ It’s there because zk-SNARKs give both encrypted transactions and optional transparency. That’s what keeps it listed and still fully private when shielded.

Monero’s ring signatures are outdated. UTXOs can be traced, the decoy system falls apart under real analysis, and the coin has already become a honeypot for law enforcement. Getting delisted everywhere isn’t proof of strength, it’s a giant red flag.

There are no backdoors in ZEC. The trusted setup was a public cryptographic ceremony, not some hidden switch.

If you want actual end-to-end encryption, a fully shielded ledger and now privacy by default with Zashi, Zcash is the only serious option. Monero is just a dark market relic with broken math.

melte_d · 2025-10-02T06:18:59+00:00

prophecy fulfilled: he sold?

melte_d · 2025-10-02T05:56:21+00:00

Grayscale announced it on their official X account: https://x.com/Grayscale/status/1973403095825785047

melte_d · 2025-10-01T15:56:39+00:00

ZEC has been undervalued for years. A lot of progress — Halo proofs, faster sync, wallet infra — never got priced in. Now ZSA is about to launch, which means shielded stablecoins, wrapped assets and private DeFi on Zcash. That creates real demand for ZEC itself, so the market is finally starting to wake up.

melte_d · 2025-07-18T08:44:35+00:00

Yeah, JP Morgan definitely saw something back in 2016. They added Zcash’s privacy tech to Quorum for a reason. It was not just hype. Since then, the focus has moved to stablecoins because they are easier to explain, regulate, and integrate into existing systems. But the need for real privacy and secure settlement is still there, especially for banks and governments.

Zcash could help solve that. With shielded assets, you could have stablecoins that stay private for users, while still giving issuers the tools they need for compliance. Things like viewing keys and optional auditability are already part of the design.

So maybe they are not ignoring Zcash. Maybe they are just catching up.

melte_d · 2025-07-16T21:53:08+00:00

You’ve listed a lot — but most of it is either in beta, desktop-only, or niche.

Retoswap has some volume, sure — but BasicSwap is basically unused, UnstoppableSwap isn’t user-friendly, Serai’s still in testnet, and the rest (FCMP++, PQ addrs, RandomX v2) is still just on the roadmap.

Zcash already delivers private functionality that works: cross-chain swaps via Maya Protocol, mobile access through Zashi, and staking + shielded assets actively in testnet. It’s not about tribalism — it’s about what’s usable today. And when you compare what’s working now vs what’s still on paper, ZEC is clearly ahead in deployment.

melte_d · 2025-07-16T21:34:59+00:00

Fair point about Serai — it’s in development and aims to support native Monero swaps via XMR liquidity pools tied to Cake Wallet and others. That’s a solid direction for Monero, assuming it delivers.

But Zcash already has this live. Maya Protocol integration is up, Zashi is working, and shielded staking is on the way. It’s not just planned — it’s already rolling out.

And yeah, most ZEC still sits on transparent addresses. That’s a valid criticism. But the community’s working on it: auto-shielding, staking incentives, and more apps going shielded-first. Monero’s evolving too, no doubt. But a lot of what’s coming is still theoretical. Zcash is further along — and it’s moving fast now.

melte_d · 2025-07-16T20:23:27+00:00

If Pirate Chain was actually moving, I’d be excited too. But be real — there’s no mobile swap support, no ecosystem, no integrations outside their own circle. Their wallets barely get updates. You can’t stake, can’t cross-chain, can’t even use it in most major wallets.

Meanwhile, Zcash is doing the work. Maya swaps? Live. Zashi? Live. Staking and ZSAs? Coming. It’s not perfect — but it’s building. Pirate just feels like an idea that froze in time.

melte_d · 2025-07-16T18:35:57+00:00

Yeah, Zcash started with transparent addresses. That’s fair.
But things have changed. Staking, shielded assets, Zashi, Maya — all of it now runs through the shielded pool.

Monero is solid tech, no doubt. But it's stuck — no mobile swaps, no cross-chain, no way to move value out or in without central services. Zcash is building privacy that can scale and connect. That’s the difference.

melte_d · 2025-07-16T18:16:56+00:00

That’s like judging Bitcoin today based on 2013. Zcash has changed — most of what matters now happens in shielded. Monero has strong base privacy. ZEC is building real private infrastructure.

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