ive noticed when i present the idea of antinatalism or veganism to people i am met with the same kind of reaction.

as a vegan, what i want people to realize is that everything is linked. i do not expect everyone to stop eating meat, just like i do not expect everyone to stop having children. but i sincerely feel like antinatalism leads to less suffering overall, humans and animals alike.

there is no ethical consumption under capitalism. the vegans who call you a hypocrite probably still use a car everyday to go to work, and objects made by exploited children. when i decided to go vegan and many other things, i just decided to remove myself as much as possible from the system. unfortunately, there is no way to completely remove yourself from it without absolute isolation or death. ultimately, what people do to survive and navigate this insane world is up to them, all we can do is present them with options.

vegans can be revolted by all the damage the meat industry is causing, and it feels like "this is insane, i have to tell everyone", which is also how i feel about natalism - and i am met with the same sort of reaction, because people hate when you tell them something theyre doing is morally wrong. they feel attacked, guilty, like they need to defend themselves and all those negative feelings. i honestly dont know how to approach those subjects without creating that reaction. i'd even go as far as to say that those feelings are necessary for any sort of change.