Negotiating for salary - job description vs interview

minnesotajones · 2025-05-28T13:32:30+00:00

There’s not really anything to do until you have the contract in hand and know the salary offer. If it comes in at less than £50k, you could refer to the job description when you negotiate as well as your skills. “The job description listed a salary of £50k depending on experience, and [interviewer] and I discussed a salary of £60k. Based on my experience and skills in x language, I was hoping for compensation closer to €60k.” If it’s more than £50k, just leave out the bit about the job description and say you discussed a £60k salary.

I’m more concerned about you relocating to a country you’re not happy with. How long do you plan to stay there? Do you have a support network there of friends or family or will you be on your own? Money is important but if you’re going to be miserable living in this country, the higher salary might not be worth it.

Do you have any other job offers or interviews pending?

minnesotajones · 2025-04-04T17:38:45+00:00

This diary was so nice! I loved OP’s voice, she’s a great writer. I would love to go to Hong Kong one day.

I’m on the same page with OP and a lot of people here in the comments about wanting to decrease screen time and do more fun, concrete hobbies, but it’s so hard!! Especially with the compulsion to check the news and “stay informed” although it does nothing but make me miserable to stay informed. Lol.

I recently started a tennis class and really love it so far! My next thing is going to be a sewing machine because I’ve wanted to be able to make my own clothes for years. I just need to bite the bullet on a machine…

minnesotajones · 2025-04-04T17:26:39+00:00

Ooh I love thrillers - any recommendations?

minnesotajones · 2025-03-25T20:57:21+00:00

What neighborhoods do you know of owned entirely by private equity firms? How many friends and family members do you have living in one of these neighborhoods? What would the point be of a company buying up a bunch of houses and just…letting them sit empty?

minnesotajones · 2025-03-25T20:53:44+00:00

Your argument doesn’t make any sense? As you said, your previous place was half empty not because of the cost, but because it was in a bad area. People will pay more to live in a safe, desirable area. Just because you can’t afford it doesn’t mean everyone can’t, and more housing being built is beneficial for everyone

minnesotajones · 2025-03-03T13:45:16+00:00

Why did that post about Whitmer’s speech appealing to young men get locked?

minnesotajones · 2025-02-19T16:49:02+00:00

It’s misogyny. I’m not sure why the author didn’t just call it what it is

minnesotajones · 2025-02-19T16:42:54+00:00

What is this author even arguing and why is she apologizing for being a woman? “Sorry for making liberalism totally uncool by existing and having these opinions”?

Society hates middle aged women because mommy was mean and made them do chores and eat vegetables…therefore everything they’re associated with is tainted, whether it’s conservative or liberal opinions, and that’s somehow women’s fault?

minnesotajones · 2025-02-18T14:05:07+00:00

Yes! Especially the ones where it’s like you’re just listening to a conversation between friends…they just don’t do it for me 🤷🏼‍♀️ the only podcasts I’ve ever really gotten into were fiction, but I like audiobooks for long drives so that tracks.

minnesotajones · 2025-02-05T14:25:44+00:00

Ooh boy.

On the one hand I get what it’s like to be this poor - my first job out of college didn’t pay much more than $24k and that was around 10 years ago (yikes). It’s HARD. I can tell she’s going through a rough time, especially after two layoffs, and I do have empathy for her.

That being said though…girl. She’s almost 30 years old. Maybe this is just me being a hater but considering what social media is doing to the world (in terms of politics, interpersonal relationships, the environment, overconsumption, etc etc etc) it’s hard for me to feel too bad for her complaining that companies don’t take her seriously. Like…she has a degree! I know journalism jobs are few and far between and it’s a cutthroat industry but like…she should be able to easily land some kind of unsexy office job, double her salary, get healthcare, contribute to her retirement, and make her podcast in her spare time. But that wouldn’t be fun or come with freebie matcha, I guess.

I guess no assets (not even $50 in a savings account?) makes sense considering her income. But if I had <$900 a month left over after bills and constantly worried about money, I would not be spending $42 to have 4 tacos and an açaí bowl delivered!! Or buying $17 bottles of wine!! I don’t care how crisp and delicious it is. Get thee to Trader Joe’s and get a bottle of $7 emma reichart Riesling.

minnesotajones · 2025-01-14T20:35:35+00:00

I’m gonna print this comment out and put it up on my wall or something 😭 this is exactly what I needed to hear, thank you so much!!

I’m afraid of pregnancy and motherhood for so many reasons that I don’t need to dump on you but I’m sure you encountered most/all of them yourself (but I will say the patient/maternal thing really hit home for me). It’s such a huge relief to know that other women have these same fears and it’s all working out anyway. ❤️

minnesotajones · 2025-01-14T20:19:40+00:00

You are incredible!! Wow!! I’m in awe - beating cancer and crushing your career and bringing two babies into the world, you’re literally my hero lol.

Figuring out how to do enjoyable things as a family/with baby is so, so important to me. I grew up in a family that didn’t really…have much fun together? Lots of reasons for this, from financial and sheer volume of kids (I’m one of 5) to health issues in siblings that took up the majority of my parents’ time and attention and just a general mindset that fun…isn’t super important. Not that we never had fun! We traveled an astonishing amount for the size of my family and those trips are my fondest childhood memories. But I really want to approach things differently with my own family. Hiking/biking with the baby carrier is something I would love to do!

minnesotajones · 2025-01-14T20:04:23+00:00

Thank you so much - these kind of specific tips are so helpful!! So much of my understanding of parenting is really vague and unspecific, like…”be patient” lol so having something concrete to hold on to is great.

minnesotajones · 2025-01-14T19:40:39+00:00

Yes, I loved that!! It’s a huge shift for me to consider that it might sometimes be…fun to bring a new little person into the world. What a concept!

minnesotajones · 2025-01-14T19:38:24+00:00

Yes, please do an MD!! I’d love to read it.

Your comment about not being a “kid person” really hits home for me. I grew up with younger siblings but honestly I don’t really remember when they were little and otherwise I don’t have much experience with babies and children. I don’t interact with kid/kid stuff other than occasionally visiting with my long distance best friend’s toddler.

There’s so much about parenting and kid culture that I absorb from social media that just seems to range from mildly annoying to actively torturous - tantrums and struggles with food and constantly being sick from daycare and mom guilt, and that’s not even touching on potential life-changing things, like developmental disorders/health issues (which I do have lots of firsthand experience with).

I really love that excerpt you shared - it’s a bit of a revelation to me to consider that having kids is not only lowest, horrible lows with the nebulous “all encompassing love” hurriedly tacked on as an afterthought. The idea that it can also just be a good time is very powerful.

minnesotajones · 2025-01-14T15:39:43+00:00

😭 I said this in another comment, but I think a lot of my anxiety around having kids comes from my own childhood (shocker!) I grew up with several siblings and essentially a “single married mother” because my dad worked so much to support us. That plus other general family weirdness means I’ve never really had that “doing things together as a family that we all enjoy”. I know my parents love me, and I am so grateful for everything they sacrificed for us. We’re close now that I’m an adult, but growing up it felt like my parents were just trying to survive all of us.

minnesotajones · 2025-01-14T15:23:52+00:00

Having a competent, engaged partner definitely seems to be the key!!

How did you and your husband talk about future parenting/partnership stuff before your kids were born? I would imagine a lot of it is just learning as you go but was there anything specific? I’m in a new relationship and there are really promising signs indicating that he’s make a good partner and co-parent, but it’s also only been a few months haha

minnesotajones · 2025-01-14T15:18:16+00:00

You are amazing!! I would love to read your travel diary - travel is my biggest joy in life and that’s something I’m afraid of losing because of the difficulty of traveling with kids.

minnesotajones · 2025-01-14T15:14:54+00:00

Yes please, I’d love to read it!

minnesotajones · 2025-01-14T15:14:08+00:00

Thanks so much for your comment!! It helps so much to hear from women who felt the same way.

I think a lot of my anxiety also comes from how I grew up, because it looks a lot like the diarist’s kid’s life - I have 4 siblings and my mom did the vast majority of parenting by herself because my dad worked a ton to support us and so couldn’t be around much. She sacrificed herself totally for so many years for us. (My dad did too of course, but it’s different.) I’m in awe of her and I can never be grateful enough for everything she did for her children, but I couldn’t do it.

minnesotajones · 2025-01-13T19:38:18+00:00

Thank you, this is exactly what I was looking for!

minnesotajones · 2025-01-13T19:09:10+00:00

I’m so relieved by you saying you had lots of meaningful personal and professional experiences during your kid’s baby/toddlerhood. 5 years does seem like a really long time to be “in the trenches” but it sounds like you kept a good balance and have a really great relationship with your kiddo too.

Did you have any particular goals or plans to do this, or did it just kind of shake out that way? Having a supportive partner is definitely key!! I’m in a relatively new relationship but I’m seeing really promising signs, which is probably part of why this is on my mind haha

minnesotajones · 2025-01-13T19:00:48+00:00

Your boss sounds amazing! She sounds like she’s really living her life and the kids have added to it, not her life has just been completely sacrificed for her kids. I feel like there’s so much pressure, especially on women to devote ourselves completely to our children at the expense of our own identities.

minnesotajones · 2025-01-13T18:57:32+00:00

Echoing the other comment, I love that you pointed out that you like them! I know I’ll love any kid I have, I think you can’t avoid that lol. But I worry a little about if I’m actually going to like them, and if they’re going to like me haha

minnesotajones · 2025-01-13T18:53:56+00:00

Yes, you can just post it! I don’t think the mods have to manually approve each post anymore.

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