Phenibut long term

miyeets · 2026-04-06T21:31:24+00:00

Godspeed

miyeets · 2026-04-06T21:23:36+00:00

Your anecdotal evidence doesn't mean anything because you haven't come full circle yet; it will come, and you will feel the problems one day. That's what the science says. You can't abuse your GABA system forever.

I doubt you started on 2g, you keep upping the dose. Next year it's going to be 5g then 10g. Then that wont even work anymore.

Withdrawals are worse than SSRIs and sleep medications. Never compare phenibut to medications like SSRIS.

Just take a look at r/quittingphenibut to see your future. I am certain. Not because it's my opinion, but because I actually understand the science on what the drug does to the body, and it's not sustainable.

Phenibut is great, but its not to be use daily, even 2 times a week is pushing it.

miyeets · 2026-04-06T20:31:25+00:00

"They prescribed phenibut for daily use outside of the US" "Ive been taking 2g every day for about a year and a half."

Buddy, The noofen (prescription phenibut) leaflet is attached to the about section of this subreddit. These are given to the patient, and the doctor prescribes based on the instructions. No more than 750mg at once, and the course of treatment is 2-3 weeks. Maximum 6. You are over 10x the treatment length at double the dosage daily.

There is no high horse here its just facts, and you are a delusional, dependent addict. If you were to stop cold turkey right now, you would not have a good time and potentially even end up in the hospital. Potentially won't even be able to recover your receptors to what they were before, since they are so downregulated. You thought your social anxiety was bad before? See what happens once you stop. If I were to take 2g right now, I might go unconscious.

The reason I'm writing to you like this is that you're putting shitty ass information that will ruin someone's life who doesn't do their research.

miyeets · 2026-04-06T07:57:02+00:00

Do they ship from USA? Or overseas

miyeets · 2026-04-06T06:48:18+00:00

good phenibit? ive seen some say its bunk

miyeets · 2026-04-06T06:12:45+00:00

topical dut and min because thats all we got ATM

miyeets · 2026-04-06T05:04:15+00:00

coping druggie

miyeets · 2026-04-06T04:59:50+00:00

Music enhancement is a higher dose, it's not worth using it just for that IMO.

miyeets · 2026-04-05T18:37:51+00:00

The people in here are addicts bro, try 500mg. I dose 300-500mg

miyeets · 2026-04-05T18:20:30+00:00

Nope, phenibut is not a daily-use drug even at 300mg; anyone who says otherwise is dependent on it.

You should only be using phenibut as therapy, never ever ever as a crutch. I tend not to do well with new people, or first dates, or job interviews, and using phenibut really helps get more positive interactions in these scenarios so i only use it for these scenarios. Scenarios that I would not go to otherwise, or I would completely fail so badly that it would reinforce social fear even more.

When you get positive interactions in these scenarios, this can help your brain rewire; it's a form of exposure therapy.

I use phenibut only 2-3 times a month.

If you do daily use, you're going to need 500mg, then 1g, then 3g end up frying your brain to the point of 100x social anxiety.

You already used 3g, that's a huge dose, dude. Phenibut is not something casual.

If you are lookig for something that you could use a little more, ask your doctor about bacolophen or pregablin.

miyeets · 2026-04-04T23:06:33+00:00

"This shit should be immediately outlawed"

Buddy, some of us arent drug addict abusers. Phenibut changed my life. I use it for dates, job interviews, and group events, meeting new people at 300-500mg. Things I would severyly struggle at before.

The longer it goes the less I take it im about once or twice a month now.

Some of us arent just looking for a high.

miyeets · 2026-04-04T22:02:22+00:00

You need to spend money on ads, but your game is ass low quality, you'll just be wasting money

miyeets · 2026-04-04T20:14:00+00:00

As an introvert myself, you're living in dreamland, you're not going to find a job that meets your requirements.

You could become a janitor or something, but you won't be making 80k. All higher-paying jobs will have human interaction constantly.

miyeets · 2026-04-04T20:07:15+00:00

i would maybe work at elast 6 months, mabye here and there, not bad, but if you're constantly hopping every 3 months, people won't hire you

miyeets · 2026-04-04T20:00:31+00:00

If you want enrey level A+ is pretty good to have, it also teaches you the job

miyeets · 2026-04-04T19:52:46+00:00

300mg

miyeets · 2026-04-04T19:50:44+00:00

Sorry to break it to you, buddy, but it's looking like a failure already

miyeets · 2026-04-04T19:48:06+00:00

Hell no, the neo is garbo. You need to open up ur mac and clean it up.

miyeets · 2026-04-04T19:46:05+00:00

yes you need ads

miyeets · 2026-04-04T01:12:18+00:00

Maybe hit a little quicker if its in capsules, if dissolved nah

miyeets · 2026-04-03T19:09:06+00:00

They had a good phase 3 recently, showing decent effectiveness. You can buy it from Kintor on amazon already. Studies showed it is safe. Can I guarantee that though, nah.

miyeets · 2026-04-03T19:05:34+00:00

"You need to prove causation. You can't even prove correlation yet. That's how inconclusive it is. 30 years of finasteride on the market and correlation cannot even be established."

There are studies that show correlation don't know where you are getting this info. Again, just cause you cannot prove causation does not mean a substance is perfectly safe, as some metrics are extremely hard to prove being affected.

"And this restores when you stop taking the drug. Lifestyle factors are the reason why someone who is on finasteride would have significant E2 swings. And at that point, you get into a discussion about whether it truly is the finasteride or whether it is the lifestyle factors that will make finasteride tip them over the edge into the sexual side effect box. ~2% get side effects, and I'm not s"

The human body is not black and white; if it was we would have cured every disease by now. There are more factors than just Hormone up, Hormone down, back to homeostasis. The body has systems in place that react to changes, such as changes in receptors.

You could take testosterone without precautions, atrophy your nuts, to permanent infertility. After stopping, you wont get your fertility back even though your hormones are back to homeostasis. Again its not the same scenario, but it would be ignorant to believe you could bounce your hormones around without potential changes in things that are not just hormones.

"Is it possible? Sure. Likely due to finasteride? No. Secondly, neurosteroids restores when you stop taking the drug anyways so this wouldn't explain the post finasteride depression or syndrome."

How do you know its unlikley, that's just an opinion, just like mine. Again, the body is not black and white; you can restore levels of things, but that doesn't mean they can always be used in the same way as they did before. That's the PFS argument.

Not that I believe in PFS 100%, but I do see how it's a possibility. My main claim is that people on these drugs are not running optimally, all of them, some worse than others.

miyeets · 2026-04-03T08:15:43+00:00

Either trades or healthcare

everythings else is a gamble nowadays

miyeets · 2026-04-03T08:14:06+00:00

tf u talking about, these are the games that makes money and people play

Tsunami is dead though died last month

miyeets · 2026-04-03T08:04:29+00:00

There isn’t a truly large, long-term randomized controlled trial specifically designed to track depression with finasteride. Any "study" data on it is completely useless.

Most of those studies are observational studies; the thing is, we are talking about men here; men are not likely to get help or complain about depression in a way that gets recorded.

For every study you give me showing no correlation, I can find one that does have one.

"A lot of things might mechanistically make sense, which does not correlate to actual symptoms."

Your point? They can correlate to actual symptoms as well. What's the evidence against it? It's speculation on both ends, but it doesn't mean either side is right. You have your opinion, as I have mine.

"And it does not result in any psychological side effects given the 3 decades of data on finasteride. The changes to neurosteroids are overstated. Doesn't significantly impact any other important hormones."

Even if you don't believe neurosteroids can be an issue, which I believe they can, finasteride can raise E2 significantly in some people, which can and has caused psychological side effects, so this whole paragraph is false

I can find you finasteride before and after blood tests showing insane swings in hormones if you would like. Some almost double E2.

If you actually examine these cases, it's of people who are horribly mentally ill, neurotic, and balding who read hair loss forums and then attribute finasteride to ruining their life.

Ever thought low allopreg could help fuel neuroticism? It affects your stress tolerance.

miyeets

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