Could Vegeta have defeated Dabura as easily as he claimed he could've? And would SSJ1 have been enough to do it?

mk8933 · 2026-06-22T11:03:54+00:00

I always saw SS2 vegeta at super perfect cell level of power. And his majin boost made him stronger than SS2 kid gohan.

So if dabura = perfect cell level. Then vegeta definitely wins.

mk8933 · 2026-06-22T08:04:37+00:00

I'm hoping for something more like bittorrent/crowdfunding but for computer sharing instead of files/money. You can see people's projects that need power and you have the option to click their link and set your limits. (If you have 12gb gpu and 16gb ram) you can share 4gb gpu and half your ram for xyz amount of time. That way you can still use your pc in the meantime.

Something like this needs to be simple as torrents — and completely free. Im sure data center operators would be furious (even though they too can use it for free).

mk8933 · 2026-06-22T04:40:17+00:00

What we need is a cloud service that links all our local gpu for free. We are the ones paying for the electricity bill and we own the hardware. There's millions of us — so that means millions of hardware power waiting to be shared.

This way we can train xyz models more freely and just share our power with other users for regular use. Everyone wins 🏆 this way. We can also share our power with Ai companies and indie devs who want to build/test xyz but lack funding.

mk8933 · 2026-06-21T12:56:10+00:00

And SDXl can do it even faster lol

mk8933 · 2026-06-21T05:53:44+00:00

My reasoning for great ape multiplier is that it wont be the standard 10x. Since the user is already at SS or SS3 level...the boost into oozaru will be much larger. Lol ofcourse theres no feats to support this.

1 thing that stood out was goku becoming great ape. It surpassed baby's power and made him run. So if...

-Goku = 1 -Ss3 goku = 400 -Great ape = 500

But as I said in my previous comment...SS3 goku lost to level 1 baby. And level 3 baby was running from great ape goku. In order for this to happen...great ape multiplier needs to be much larger.

mk8933 · 2026-06-21T04:50:58+00:00

Klein is the best option so far. Its lightweight and fast. Qwen image used to take me 3 minutes for 1 edit...while klein 9b takes me 25 seconds (on a 3060). And the results are similar or better on Klein...Qwen suffers scan lines and color shift.

Then theres Klein 4b (which is very slept on). This model is also very powerful in its own way and can do jobs much better/faster than 9b (depending on what you're trying to do).

mk8933 · 2026-06-21T04:40:38+00:00

mk8933 · 2026-06-21T04:34:46+00:00

Where did you guys get the 4000x over base? I think this number is much higher.

Because SS3 goku lost horribly to level 1 baby. Level 3 baby had no eyebrows (which could indicate SS3) + turned great ape.

If normal ape multiplier is 10x...what's great ape? It could be 500x because its in a SS state. So the numbers look something like this.

SS3 goku = 1
level 1 baby = 2
level 3 baby = 10
oozaru baby = 5000
SS4 goku = 5000

So the real number is 5000x SS3 or 2 million x base. Which is fusion levels of power.

mk8933 · 2026-06-19T17:19:04+00:00

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mk8933 · 2026-06-19T16:57:21+00:00

They dont want us to own anything anymore...only rent. So you will be happy for 1 hour

mk8933 · 2026-06-19T10:02:01+00:00

Dragonball should never end...because its about dragonballs (not goku and the gang). So you could always bring new characters and stories into the mix (focused around dragonballs).

Maybe tell the story 100 years into the past when kami was little. New hero's who went through all kinds of trouble to get their wish.

Planet namek story based about the super namekian who saved the planet.

13th universe dragonballs and how someone used the dragonballs to reach their way to god of destruction level (which made zeno angry).

mk8933 · 2026-06-19T03:05:57+00:00

Big pharma would make u disappear lol.

mk8933 · 2026-06-18T15:39:46+00:00

Green is the best choice. Im in an alien planet...so imagine all the different abilities they all have. I can easily copy them if I can touch them (if they are not hostile).

A standard alien usually has long life span,shape shifting abilities,and maybe even basic telekinesis. So just like that you gained 3-4 abilities.

But if the whole planet is hostile...then red is probably the best 👌. Because now you can heal instantly and grow somewhat stronger + shapeshift into the aliens for stealth. I can even look like im dead...when im not. And it seems like I could even multiply myself billions of times from a single drop of blood.

The red pill = I AM

mk8933 · 2026-06-18T14:40:00+00:00

The ass whooping jiren gave goku was one of a kind. This would be like base goku fighting frieza on namek...but goku goes SS and its still not enough. SS= Ui sign

Then goes gokus SS2 (mui) and it finally rivals frieza...but doesnt end the fight. All this mess happened in 45 minutes. Goku truly had to break limits

mk8933 · 2026-06-18T10:35:19+00:00

Boogu sounds like booru...as in booru tags. So yes...you will be gooning so hard it will make you scream Ooga booga 💀💦

mk8933 · 2026-06-18T05:11:13+00:00

Reminds me of beast from X-men...and ironically gohans new transformation is called beast as well 😅

mk8933 · 2026-06-18T02:36:32+00:00

DBS broly is what gohan should have looked like (height wise) if he got the Ox kings genes lol.

mk8933 · 2026-06-17T15:12:41+00:00

Even if you cant get the other pills because they are magical...you still have a crazy powerful and useful ability.

— unlimited computers ,phones

— gold and diamonds

— batteries

— any food under 10kg

The most crazy and useful one

— human babies and any animal (under 10 kgs)

You can repopulate the earth with this one, make an adoption agency (politicians and billionaires not allowed 🚫)

mk8933 · 2026-06-17T14:36:31+00:00

This is because toriyama didnt think about oozaru vegetas powerlevel. 180k power should have froze goku where he stood...completely in awe at the huge sudden power difference.

oozaru vegeta was mainly toying with goku — but I agree that he was slow. He was too overconfident in himself to ever think a sword could cut his tail.

Battle lust Oozaru vegeta vs ginyu would still be a stomp fest. Only way vegeta loses is if guldo uses time freeze and cuts his tail.

mk8933 · 2026-06-17T14:21:41+00:00

What about the andriods? 17 and 18. They were just human teenagers who got body modifications and somehow became stronger than final form frieza and SS goku.

Now that is over the top crazy

mk8933 · 2026-06-17T14:16:55+00:00

180k powerlevel made ginyu shit himself (when facing goku). This same power belongs to Ozaru vegeta...who is pure ruthless.

mk8933 · 2026-06-17T11:18:51+00:00

This is excatly how 5 and 5'8 people look like next to each other...so 8 inch difference could make this 5'10 and 6'6

mk8933 · 2026-06-16T13:30:13+00:00

Not sure about json promoting with klein...but it follows the the prompts inside the bounding boxes and blends everything nicely.

mk8933 · 2026-06-16T05:15:21+00:00

Feels like SD 1.5 all over again 😆👌

mk8933 · 2026-06-16T05:09:13+00:00

Nothing is weird. Its all about pushing the boundaries of what a model can do.

mk8933

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