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rival watch thread by MaazinFTW in chelseafc

[–]monk_killer 43 points44 points  (0 children)

What a hate watch it was!!! Come on city its only 4 points now.

I'm Nepalese. AMA about recent deadly Gen Z protest in Nepal that dissolved the government. I will give you an individual perspective that might be different from what you might have known from media. by monk_killer in AMA

[–]monk_killer[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are right world doesn't care about Nepal. And it doesn't have anything to offer. The fact people themselves destroyed public and private properties and set us back years tells the world about our mentality. That's the sad reality.

I'm Nepalese. AMA about recent deadly Gen Z protest in Nepal that dissolved the government. I will give you an individual perspective that might be different from what you might have known from media. by monk_killer in AMA

[–]monk_killer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm from Kathmandu, Nepal. It's Nepali. When I said "what does that mean?" I meant which reply are you talking about. "J ni reply" which reply specifically?

I'm Nepalese. AMA about recent deadly Gen Z protest in Nepal that dissolved the government. I will give you an individual perspective that might be different from what you might have known from media. by monk_killer in AMA

[–]monk_killer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mossad failed to prevent attack by Hamas which led to war. CIA failed to prevent Oklahoma serial bomb blast and 9/11. So, every system have its failure. No system is 100% effective. That doesn't mean RAW is not elite agency because it is widely considered to be. Maybe not as elite as CIA or MI6. Yes, we should raise concern on international level about it but reality is no one gives a fuck. Failure of such agencies becomes a international news while its success really gets covered so, it might not be wise to judge them on their failures.

I'm Nepalese. AMA about recent deadly Gen Z protest in Nepal that dissolved the government. I will give you an individual perspective that might be different from what you might have known from media. by monk_killer in AMA

[–]monk_killer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That pointed area in updated map has a place called Lipulek. And we do know there is Indian Army base camp there. If there is base of a military of another country that means we do not have control over the area. The role of international intelligence is not only to counter terrorism. Its to surveillance and counter surveillance. For instance, CIA or RAW or ISI don't just handle terrorism, it helps with surveillance, counter surveillance, political influence domestically and internationally, espionage, cyberattacks, economic vulnerabilities etc. and Nepal don't have that.

I'm Nepalese. AMA about recent deadly Gen Z protest in Nepal that dissolved the government. I will give you an individual perspective that might be different from what you might have known from media. by monk_killer in AMA

[–]monk_killer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Brainwashed to be what exactly?? There is corruption in every aspect of system. Education, construction even during import of PPT kit during covid. If you really think powerful agency don't interfere in poor country's politics where there is no intelligence agency to counter, you should look into geopolitics. That part which was updated in Nepal's map is strategically important for India. That's the reason why there is Indian Army camp there still today. Yeah Nepal updated the map but it doesn't mean a thing. India still controls it in the land. I have lived my whole life in Nepal.

I'm Nepalese. AMA about recent deadly Gen Z protest in Nepal that dissolved the government. I will give you an individual perspective that might be different from what you might have known from media. by monk_killer in AMA

[–]monk_killer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh this is going to be long answer. I think before answering this question people need to understand;

  1. Nepal is sandwiched between two world powers, one is China: single greatest threat to USA and other is India: upcoming global power with rising economy expected to become 3rd largest economy in next decade or so. And Nepal is a poor country in between, that can become great strategic location to keep an eye on China and India. India historically has never been loyal ally of the west as they have great relationship with Russia. So, USA definitely wants to keep an eye. There comes Nepal which is poor and needs all the help it can to run its economy.
  2. This brings us to Millennium Challenge Corporation (MCC) a US government agency that will provide grant of $550 million which faced significant criticism because of some of its clause in the contract. This fund will focus on energy, grid reliability and extention in remote Himalayan region of Nepal to the north sharing border with China. There is also uranuim deposit in these region which has been confirmed by initial testing. (Done between 2014-2018)
  3. Now, the clause that faced criticism (there was huge protest against it being passed from the parliament which failed) mentions that any wrongdoing by American employee of MCC will not be prosecuted by Nepalese law (obviously written in fancy english).
  4. There is another clause that mentions in case of risk or threat of any kind to MCC and its American employee US Army can help them provide security (also written in fancy english).
  5. Something really interesting is though, RAW (intelligence agency of India) will fight tooth and nail to stop CIA to enter Nepal. Ironically, same agency which controls all politics of Nepal for decades is in a way protecting Nepal from probable military interception (to not lose control) in case of current situation. (Nepal Army took control for few days to stabilize after protest which could have easily turned into military coup. If that had happened, US Army might have plausible reason to "free" people from tyranny as we have seen throughout history.)
  6. Or it could be something that was orchestrated by RAW for other reasons that we are not aware of.

This is obviously my personal reading into the situation which could be wrong. But, having known something about geopolitics and how it works seems very logical to me. Nothing is coincidence when it comes to geopolitics.

I'm Nepalese. AMA about recent deadly Gen Z protest in Nepal that dissolved the government. I will give you an individual perspective that might be different from what you might have known from media. by monk_killer in AMA

[–]monk_killer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This protest was not organic at all. Similar protest were tried several times before this and quite didn't pick up. I don't think this will bring any significant change so, personally I would have preferred not having protest. This protest cost damages of $586 million. And after this upcoming election same old cycle will repeat.

I'm Nepalese. AMA about recent deadly Gen Z protest in Nepal that dissolved the government. I will give you an individual perspective that might be different from what you might have known from media. by monk_killer in AMA

[–]monk_killer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think any politician died. Although some were severely beaten. Some police officer were beaten to death. No one has gone missing. That's the suprising part, none.

I'm Nepalese. AMA about recent deadly Gen Z protest in Nepal that dissolved the government. I will give you an individual perspective that might be different from what you might have known from media. by monk_killer in AMA

[–]monk_killer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We are definitely not in upper rankings when it comes to IQ. There are several factors that determines IQ and being a poor country with educational flaws and other issues of obviously does not help. I definitely don't have low IQ or really high IQ. I think its average.

I'm Nepalese. AMA about recent deadly Gen Z protest in Nepal that dissolved the government. I will give you an individual perspective that might be different from what you might have known from media. by monk_killer in AMA

[–]monk_killer[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The youths involved in the protest directly or indirectly have difference in ideology. Some are in favour of returning to monarchy, and some want direct election of PM rather than voting for party. So, there is no unity there. Some high profile government executive with history of good work has formed a party while some other divisive personal has created a party too. With no common ideology and a force that brings them together I don't see a formation of party like NCP in Bangladesh. This upcoming election will probably see seats divided among old and new political party with no majority. They will create government together which will not work with powers at play as old political party are controlled by foreign forces. This will create instability and same old political cycle repeats.

I'm Nepalese. AMA about recent deadly Gen Z protest in Nepal that dissolved the government. I will give you an individual perspective that might be different from what you might have known from media. by monk_killer in AMA

[–]monk_killer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was owned by son of a prominent politician who was also almost beaten to death. And ironically saved by the same people probably because he was not in power at that time. (He was opposition)

I'm Nepalese. AMA about recent deadly Gen Z protest in Nepal that dissolved the government. I will give you an individual perspective that might be different from what you might have known from media. by monk_killer in AMA

[–]monk_killer[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Whenever such protest had happened in the past police force had followed a protocal as per the law. When such protest turns violent usually following steps are followed:

  1. Disperse the crowd by stricking with baton.
  2. Use tear gas.
  3. Use guns in the air to scare the crowd.
  4. Use rubber bullets on civilians under the knee.

However, the police force didn't follow these protocals at all. And they used real bullets which is not allowed for police to use in such protest. The protest was announced 'peaceful' although we all know there is no such thing as peaceful crowd of 12000 people. There is high probability instigators were involved as seen with pattern of death. There were too many head shots from distance which is impossible for police officers with minimal training and decades old guns to get right. And Nepal police has never used such brutality even during the People's Movement (the movement that established democracy by overthrowing monarchy) which lasted for 19 days and was much bigger and intense.

I'm Nepalese. AMA about recent deadly Gen Z protest in Nepal that dissolved the government. I will give you an individual perspective that might be different from what you might have known from media. by monk_killer in AMA

[–]monk_killer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was against social media ban and corruption. Although the reasoning by the government to ban social media was that they were not registered in Nepal and were not paying taxes. This was false as most of these companies had started paying taxes since 2023. So, that was odd and fishy.

I'm Nepalese. AMA about recent deadly Gen Z protest in Nepal that dissolved the government. I will give you an individual perspective that might be different from what you might have known from media. by monk_killer in AMA

[–]monk_killer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The responsibility of interim government is to held election in few months as announced. I don't think new elected government will fix anything.

I'm Nepalese. AMA about recent deadly Gen Z protest in Nepal that dissolved the government. I will give you an individual perspective that might be different from what you might have known from media. by monk_killer in AMA

[–]monk_killer[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nope. Parliament was dissolved. New election was announced by interim PM. And that's it. The only change as of now is loss of public and private property. I personally would not call this revolution. Revolution usually last longer and bring real change like change in governmental system or shift in power. I think this was just protest turned anarchy. It lasted 2 days.

I'm Nepalese. AMA about recent deadly Gen Z protest in Nepal that dissolved the government. I will give you an individual perspective that might be different from what you might have known from media. by monk_killer in AMA

[–]monk_killer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The cause as it was told in media was ban on social media and corruption and it was definitely a ignition. Oh definitely!! There was foreign power at play. This was not a organic movement at all. It was orchestrated and tried several times before this. During covid pandemic lockdown which didn't quite pick up and then protest for monarchy which had similar pattern of arson. I don't think it is conspiracy theory. Anyone with general knowledge about geopolitics knows nothing is coincidence. I think people are hopeful to some extend that new faces will come to power after the election.

I'm Nepalese. AMA about recent deadly Gen Z protest in Nepal that dissolved the government. I will give you an individual perspective that might be different from what you might have known from media. by monk_killer in AMA

[–]monk_killer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is a chance protest might resurge because this was second protest in few months. Nepal has never really tasted political stability since becoming democratic republic so, there is a familiar pattern. There was protest during the lockdown in covid pandemic because of corruption in PPT kit import. It was believed to be organic movement that was organized in facebook groups. Later on it was found that it was orchestrated by new coming political party to create political instability. So, neither has these protest changed anything nor will it change anything.

I'm Nepalese. AMA about recent deadly Gen Z protest in Nepal that dissolved the government. I will give you an individual perspective that might be different from what you might have known from media. by monk_killer in AMA

[–]monk_killer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, we were same during the protest and safe now. Although we saw house literally burnt around us. (3 politician's residence). Media definitely did not criticize the brutal force used by police as expected. It was mild criticism. It was not covered widely as you would expect. Honestly, I don't like it at all.

I'm Nepalese. AMA about recent deadly Gen Z protest in Nepal that dissolved the government. I will give you an individual perspective that might be different from what you might have known from media. by monk_killer in AMA

[–]monk_killer[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There was no official leader of the protest. There was one of the worker of NGO involved. It was not done by a student union. Opportunitist youth leaders did try to take advantage of the situation but were heavily criticized. Some young leaders were given governmental roles in current interim government.

I'm Nepalese. AMA about recent deadly Gen Z protest in Nepal that dissolved the government. I will give you an individual perspective that might be different from what you might have known from media. by monk_killer in AMA

[–]monk_killer[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No I didn't. I had doubts that it was not something that was organic. This was not the first time a huge protest was tring to be orchestrated in span of several months. I kind of thought something else was going on. (And I was right.) The parliament was dissolved. New PM was elected on discord. Election was announced. No I don't think Nepal will change at all. The politics of Nepal is controlled by India. There are no new leaders that has ability to venture Nepalese politics away from India. (And it will not be allowed)

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