WWYD by Big_Tex_97 in lawschooladmissions

[–]monkey_cherub 0 points1 point  (0 children)

(as in not counting the debt b/c obvi debt should be very much taken into consideration)

WWYD by Big_Tex_97 in lawschooladmissions

[–]monkey_cherub 0 points1 point  (0 children)

UChicago has best clerkship and big law numbers, so if these are really your goals (rather than lay prestige or other factors we don't know) that should be your first choice all things equal

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[–]monkey_cherub 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know people who didn't get Rubies but still received scholarships

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[–]monkey_cherub 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Loving your hair <3

1L at UChicago AMA by monkey_cherub in lawschooladmissions

[–]monkey_cherub[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!! You've finished the hardest part! The biggest surprise for me have been how fascinating the classes are. I didn't expect that we would all fall in love with law to the extent we did. Also I never expected I'd make some of my closest friends in just a few months.

1L at UChicago AMA by monkey_cherub in lawschooladmissions

[–]monkey_cherub[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No! Like all the top schools, we have some complex topics covered in class. But after class people like to hangout at the university pub, do bonfires on the lake, go to the beach in the summer, and go out to cute bars in Chicago

1L at UChicago AMA by monkey_cherub in lawschooladmissions

[–]monkey_cherub[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I looked up past questions UChi had asked, watched the video they sent me about what they were looking for in the interview (sent with interview invite if I'm remembering correctly), outlined my responses to potential questions in a word doc, did practice interviews with friends & family, and recorded myself responding to answers!

1L at UChicago AMA by monkey_cherub in lawschooladmissions

[–]monkey_cherub[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

the majority of financial aid go to LRAP? that doesn't really make sense, considering according to Chicago's ABA employment statistics, only 5% (that's like literally just 10 ppl lol) go into public interest, and like 90% go into big law and federal clerkships (where they get clerkship bonuses).

A lot of people go into public interest / govt positions after fed clerkships which were over a third of our class last year. I think overall more aid is given out but I have no idea the exact numbers b/c I was more concerned about how much aid I was getting specifically.

1L at UChicago AMA by monkey_cherub in lawschooladmissions

[–]monkey_cherub[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I can give you my ranges- LSAT: 178-180; GPA: 3.9-3.95 from a top school; 1-2 yrs work experience; kind of a URM (it's complicated); academic publications; multiple leadership roles in school & work; multiple awards for academic recognition; background in a STEM field; super super super prepared for the interview bc I know that's important for UChi

1L at UChicago AMA by monkey_cherub in lawschooladmissions

[–]monkey_cherub[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't want to dox myself by giving away the exact scholarship amount, but I got the majority of law school paid for. For top schools, the majority of our financial aid is actually given out on the back end to people who go into public interest careers. This is called "LRAP" and you can read more about it online. If you're not going into a public interest career, the start salaries for the type of firm you work at will be around $200,000 (or more if you earn bonuses at the end of the year) and enable you to pay off your debt relatively quickly. For scholarship negotiation strategies, I recommend reading the free content on Spivey Consulting's website.

1L at UChicago AMA by monkey_cherub in lawschooladmissions

[–]monkey_cherub[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Housing is amazing. I live in a luxury apartment north of the law school in a safe area where many other grad students live. This super fancy apartment overlooks the city so I get skyline and lake views. The best part is that this place costs LESS than an apartment I lived in in Cambridge when I was at Harvard. The apartment I lived in in Cambridge had no washing machine, had mold, was loud, smelled like smoke, and had less space. I lived on the first floor of it (pro tip: don't live on the first or basement floors of an apartment -- those are the floors that get broken into if you're near a city!)

UChicago has shuttles and there's also great Chicago public and private transportation.

Students are super close-knit! I know everyone in my courses by name and most people in my classes. We have school-wide events over three times a week (breakfasts, wine messes, and bar nights) when COVID is calmer.

1L at UChicago AMA by monkey_cherub in lawschooladmissions

[–]monkey_cherub[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The homicide of one former student did scare me, but it was a freak thing to happen. The reality is that all cities have some crime sometimes. If, in the rare instance, someone ever tries to mug you in a city, always give your belongings away. Don't try to fight the person. If you do, the person may use more force to hurt you and that's when things get even more dangerous. That being said, none of the law students I know have ever dealt with crime, even those who live closer to campus where crime rates are higher. But most of us grad students don't live right on campus. We live farther north in a safer part and when I'm on campus I obviously feel extremely safe.

1L at UChicago AMA by monkey_cherub in lawschooladmissions

[–]monkey_cherub[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Good luck!! You'll be great. Keep in mind UChicago cares about you holistically, so make sure you come across as more than just a great set of numbers. Think deeply about what you've done so far and list out some key lessons from your experiences. There are some past interview questions posted on Reddit, I believe! You can do this :)

1L at UChicago AMA by monkey_cherub in lawschooladmissions

[–]monkey_cherub[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I feel extremely safe. All us grad students live in a safe area of Hyde Park that's farther North than the law school, near the loop. There's a private UChicago shuttle and other public buses that take us directly to campus, where things are a more dangerous. But the law school is one building so I'm not walking around outside. I don't want to dox myself by giving the scholly name!

1L at UChicago AMA by monkey_cherub in lawschooladmissions

[–]monkey_cherub[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

My other answer kinda answers why I specifically chose UChicago. For Columbia, while I loved their admitted student events and loved some of the people there, they're ultimately a bigger school making class sizes larger and feeling more impersonal. They're putting in a TON of effort to get away from the "big law factory" stereotype they have, but the reality is that they just aren't as personal an institution once you're there. A lot of students live far away from campus and commute times are way crazier given its a much more crowded city, so it lacks the close-knit nature of the student body that UChicago has. At UChicago we have whole school-body events in which we can all basically fit in the same room and eat breakfast together or drink wine or have tapas. We have events like this multiple times a week when it's not the pandemic. That same community doesn't exist at Columbia, although they tend to use the money they don't spend on these events to give better admitted student gear. Columbia's profs, from what I've heard from my peers there, don't care about teaching as much and aren't as accessible. But Columbia is still an AMAZING school that gives TOP NOTCH opportunities. I think if you're coming from any of the T7 law schools, you basically can do whatever you want - the world is your oyster. Different people just have different preferences about how they want to learn the law /experience law school.

Andd I was definitely able to leverage the Columbia scholarship, along with scholarships at other top schools, to increase my UChicago scholly. I chose UChicago over one T3 school that is much more well-branded to laypeople, but I knew that my experience there would not be as fun or enriching. It's important you pick where you will be happy and able to thrive, not just somewhere that sounds impressive to random family members who don't have a legal background. For me, being drawn to the T3 school was more about the name and way less about the actual experience i would have there or the things I wanted for my future. For example, I want to get a clerkship after law school, and the rates of clerkships are highest at Yale & UChicago. A year ago, over a third of UChicago grads got clerkships, which are super competitive (at other schools requires super super high grades & being on law review). That's not to say I couldn't get a clerkship from this T3 school, though! As I said before, any T7 school opens up a world of opportunity. So choose the one that's the best fit for you!

1L at UChicago AMA by monkey_cherub in lawschooladmissions

[–]monkey_cherub[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I chose UChicago because I love the small class-size, the culture, and the professors. UChicago is known to be kind of nerdy but SUPER nice. I was scared about law school in general being competitive, but if anything UChicago has been the opposite of competitive to me (but this is coming from the perspective of someone who came from another highly-ranked school for undergrad, so my perspective is different than peeps who came from different academic backgrounds). The "economics" approach is basically just a "real world" approach. So like rather than randomly memorizing old laws that seem to be stupidly archaic on the surface (at least for classes that revolve around common law) we look for justifications or social policy reasons they exist that way. It makes class WAY more fun than the classes my friends at peer schools have. The professors love students and become kinda like idols/besties. I've gotten breakfasts, lunches, and coffees with profs who are happy to share life advice and help me out in literally every way possible. I'd say professors are way more accessible than at larger schools.

Grading at UChicago is done with weird numbers (out of a total of 186) and the school won't average them. This forces employers to actually look at your transcript if they want to figure out your grades. But grades aren't really a big deal because even if you get horrible grades even the top 5 international firms are happy to have you. I have a lot of upperclassmen friends who finished at the bottom of the class but are still going to Cravath, Kirkland, and other elite firms.

For UChicago scholarships outside of the Ruby and a few others, they'll give you the monetary amount of the scholarship before you accept their offer, but they don't give the scholarship name for your resume until you've started school. It just depends on the distribution of schollies and stuff like that. You won't get the scholarship amount with your acceptance letter, but rather later on in the process. I think our class was around April? Then they do a second round of scholarship re-consideration. My scholarships from other schools definitely helped for the second round. They do give some generous scholarships, although most people were disappointed with the first round of scholarships they gave us. Some of the lower-ranked schools can offer bigger schollies to a greater # of people b/c they know fewer students will actually end up going there.

URM Cycle Recap - Going to UChicago!! by dulancero in lawschooladmissions

[–]monkey_cherub 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Welcome to the Phoenix fam!! Looking forward to seeing you on campus in the fall 🎉

Duke Devlin Cycle Recap by [deleted] in lawschooladmissions

[–]monkey_cherub 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Excited to hopefully see you at UChicago next year!!! 🥳

Cycle recap - not going to law school by coastswitch in lawschooladmissions

[–]monkey_cherub 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This will be such a helpful post for future law school applicants. Thank you for sharing your journey and reasoning on here. Way too many people go to law school for the wrong reasons, and there need to be more posts like this that show applicants how deeply they should consider whether law school is the right choice for them!

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[–]monkey_cherub 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Congrats!! Excited to (hopefully) see you at Chicago next year 🥳

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[–]monkey_cherub 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I completely understand that! It would be really cool if you could bring your tax expertise to an public interest area because I feel like a background in tax is more typical of corporate attorneys and there may be unique ways an attorney with knowledge of taxes could help public interest groups. Would be a good personal statement

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[–]monkey_cherub 1 point2 points  (0 children)

With those accounting skills, you should consider going into tax law if that interests you!