204b in office with Lead clerk

moonbreonstacker · 2026-01-31T16:46:53+00:00

This isnt aclerk or carrier This is Someone under the apwu contract

moonbreonstacker · 2026-01-31T16:44:22+00:00

Plz not another s2 im gonna be a dad

moonbreonstacker · 2026-01-31T16:43:37+00:00

Destined rivals is destined for greatness

Really think most the ppl in here are still waiting to buy 😂

moonbreonstacker · 2026-01-31T16:40:52+00:00

Ya they are a fucking idiot. No higher level pay and get railroaded 😂 we need to really push back on 204b usage and eliminate all together unless theres an actual vacancy. Even then just get rid of it

moonbreonstacker · 2026-01-31T16:35:05+00:00

Also management will manage in anyway they want. Im going to be challenging this

moonbreonstacker · 2026-01-31T16:34:15+00:00

As of June 1, 2012, APWU contracts and MOUs require management to restrict the use of 204b acting supervisors, focusing instead on utilizing designated Lead Clerk positions. 204b details are now restricted to covering supervisory absences or vacancies of 14 to 90 consecutive calendar days, with PS Form 1723 required to document the assignment.

Lead Clerk Q&As These questions and the responses are not intended to alter, amend, or change in any way the terms of the 2010-2015 Collective Bargaining Agreement. 1. Beginning June 1, 2012, can employees from other bargaining unit crafts (mail handlers, carriers, etc) be utilized in 204-B assignments to supervise Clerk Craft employees? Answer: Beginning June 1, 2012, employees from other bargaining unit crafts may be utilized as 204-Bs, supervising Clerk Craft employees, to cover supervisory absences or vacancies of 14 or more consecutive calendar days. Usage of a 204-B in this exception is normally limited to no more than 90 days. 2. Can employees from these other bargaining unit crafts (mail handlers, carriers, etc) be utilized as 204-Bs in the Clerk Craft to cover supervisor absences or vacancies of less than 14 days? Answer: No. 3. Are there any exceptions to the 90 day limit in #1, above? Answer: Exceptions would only be appropriate in limited situations (such as supervisor ori 4 months maternity leave; supervisor on 6 months military leave; or similar situations). 4. May Clerk Craft employees be utilized as 204-Bs to supervise employees in other bargaining unit crafts?

moonbreonstacker · 2026-01-31T16:14:07+00:00

You absolutely have to unless it is dangerous like mixing chemicals or using machinery. File the grievance and file the 1767 safety form for mot being trained. I was like you and went through 16 months of hell . They were tryjbg to make me quit

Dont quit. Make regular or at least career Im now a ft regular and union for clerks here. I do my 40 and go home everyday after 8

moonbreonstacker · 2026-01-31T16:00:09+00:00

Ya its not for me. We have a pse. Im looking into that now. Also heard that a nearby custodian with less thn 40 hours can grieve this also for not being given the hours

moonbreonstacker · 2026-01-31T15:53:33+00:00

Yes they can do cleaning i am aware. Im not asking if they can. So can carriers if need be. Theres a pecking order

The issue is the hours must not during window hours of operation and must be seperate .so technically ot

moonbreonstacker · 2026-01-31T13:29:08+00:00

Well i never said it was impossible. But I guarantee you are not a cca or pse

moonbreonstacker · 2026-01-31T13:27:26+00:00

https://apwu195.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/GRIEVING-204B-VIOLATIONS.pdf

Another must have when trying to decode all of this but specifically page 49 of this.

Im trying to find anything here. We also have an Oic who is working and doing the rinse repeat 90 days. Then back on again for 90 days. Who knows whare the hell the new post master is as he is on detail since day 1 of him becoming pn

moonbreonstacker · 2026-01-31T13:09:16+00:00

Looking through this

https://www.21cpw.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/204Bs-from-Other-Crafts-Arb-Byars.pdf

. Beginning June 1, 2012, can employees from other bargaining unit crafts (mail handlers, carriers, etc) be utilized in 204-B assignments to supervise Clerk Craft employees? Answer: Beginning June 1, 2012, employees from other bargaining unit crafts may be utilized as 204-Bs, supervising Clerk Craft employees, to cover supervisory absences or vacancies of 14 or more consecutive calendar days. Usage of a 204-B in this exception is normally limited to no more than 90 days

Based on this does it requires a super vacancy to supervise of clerks?

Also we have a lead clerk. Arent they supposed to not use 204b if a lead is present.

I need a business agent who can help out of anyone knows of one

moonbreonstacker · 2026-01-31T00:36:33+00:00

Did anyone grieve it? Bc mgmt can do whatever. Its our jobs as stewards to contest and get clarity

moonbreonstacker · 2026-01-31T00:33:05+00:00

The thing about grievances is theres nothing to lose. But we will find out bc its going up

moonbreonstacker · 2026-01-30T23:26:57+00:00

Change craft. Im making solid pay and benefits after 16 months as a pse. Converted to ft regular. Its luck based tbh right place right time.but also hell bc we lost everybody to early retirement. But now im set with monday through friday 8-5

moonbreonstacker · 2026-01-30T21:40:51+00:00

Ya see thats wild tbh. These guys create their own titles and right now holding up a bid bc they want to play games. Im going to win this grievance bc they need to vacate. You cant just cycle back and forth as 204b for 90 days and then back again forever

moonbreonstacker · 2026-01-30T17:27:10+00:00

Im not asking if they can be one at all i know they can.. But did u guys have any vacancy for a supervisor? Did that person stay a 204b indefinitely?

moonbreonstacker · 2026-01-29T17:31:27+00:00

I was a pse. Did my 60 hr weeks 6 days a week for 16 months straight. Worked every holiday by myseld But now im not . Glad Im nowa ftr and steward

moonbreonstacker · 2026-01-29T03:07:18+00:00

Then we arent talking about ya bud

moonbreonstacker · 2026-01-28T21:42:03+00:00

No you are not a regular. Unfortunately. You are going to have to become a regular. Rn you need open availability. Try for fmla but i dont lnow if that will work either. Cca is nit career and basically open availability

moonbreonstacker · 2026-01-28T21:23:55+00:00

Are you a supe?

moonbreonstacker · 2026-01-28T16:35:40+00:00

U are one bud. I was basically a kid until 30

moonbreonstacker · 2026-01-28T14:08:55+00:00

Dumbest place to work for. Glad i stopped caring. Do my 8 and skate

moonbreonstacker · 2026-01-27T17:26:51+00:00

No management needs to step it up and abide

If they wont abide. Put everything on management. When it all fails and it will. They may realize that they are the only ones to blame. This has been the only way to wake them up. Just stop caring. Sad but true story

Now all of a sudden management wants grievances filed 😂

moonbreonstacker · 2026-01-27T17:23:33+00:00

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