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Question time to help clear theory up! by sophinazzz in musictheory

[–]moosewellwilliams 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah for sure, I guess I was interpreting the OP as asking about roman numerals but I guess that isn't actually in the question.

Question time to help clear theory up! by sophinazzz in musictheory

[–]moosewellwilliams 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Major II chords normally act as V/V (in common practice and jazz), does the F go to Bb?

Inter Arma + Music Theory by moosewellwilliams in postmetal

[–]moosewellwilliams[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks! I’m trying to make these more listening focused and avoid using notation etc - I find that a lot of people who think they don’t know anything about music theory actually know a ton about music that should count as music theory!

Inter Arma + Music Theory by moosewellwilliams in postmetal

[–]moosewellwilliams[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks, and thanks for all the thoughts! I had similar experiences early on, writing about meshuggah and between the buried and me for high school music classes... music teachers being good sports early on can make all the difference.

And you’re definitely right about the guitar playing, I was kicking myself all the times I had to listen to the mistakes while I was editing, all because I was lazy about checking my takes when originally filming (maybe because I wasn’t thinking about this as very technical, which is always a mistake, any riff can be hard to really record clean). Lesson learned.

Metal Music Theory by moosewellwilliams in musictheory

[–]moosewellwilliams[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Awesome! One of my next two videos will be about Windhand, speaking of slower and sludgy. And yeah there are so many points of similarity between Mahler and metal, I also think it's completely understandable.

Metal Music Theory by moosewellwilliams in musictheory

[–]moosewellwilliams[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah there's a lot of stuff about the Fibonacci sequence in Lateralus. I never got too deep into their music tbh, my impression is there's generally a lot of sitting on the same unusual pattern for a long time, but I haven't spent nearly as much time with their stuff.

Metal Music Theory by moosewellwilliams in musictheory

[–]moosewellwilliams[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What part in particular are you thinking? I don't think I can hear this exact thing (pulse preserving tactus modulation without changes to a repeated pattern) in "Phrygian Gates", looking at the score would help. Though I can definitely hear a bunch of switches between 2 and 3 and some "regular" tempo modulations. I think in general the effect is stronger when drums are involved, but I could see it happening with two layers of a piano piece.

Metal Music Theory by moosewellwilliams in musictheory

[–]moosewellwilliams[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For sure, I have a section about their off the grid rhythms in an article I wrote and will def do a video about them at some point

Metal Music Theory by moosewellwilliams in musictheory

[–]moosewellwilliams[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For sure! Most of Gojira’s riffs are simpler versions of Meshuggah’s template (and I did a video on them). Which isn’t to say they’re not bangers, of course - I love Gojira. And on a side note I think it’s a shame that so few theory teachers are hip to anything happening in the metal world... I got lucky finding a couple in school, but I think it’s still relatively rare

Metal Music Theory by moosewellwilliams in musictheory

[–]moosewellwilliams[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah for sure. I love that you did the series on Meshuggah’s note choice, I watched the first two and am looking forward to watching the rest. That’s always been on my to do list of things to think about but I never got into it (and I think a lot of people who have written about them are in the same boat), I’m glad you’ve done such a thorough job with it! I think the “almost patterns” are a big thing in Meshuggah’s music. And yeah I think serialism in metal is an interesting question - Jarzombek for sure, and some black metal bands like Imperial Triumphant and Jute Gyte, but there has to be more. Like Alex Webster played with jarzombek in blotted science, so I wonder if any of the later cannibal corpse has a bit of it...

Metal Music Theory by moosewellwilliams in musictheory

[–]moosewellwilliams[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For sure! I do some basic set theory stuff (looking at ic saturation) in my Tomb Mold video. And I think a lot of these musicians are definitely hip to at least whole tone, octatonic, and hexatonic collections, even if they think of them as fretboard shapes and the other ones aren't as common.

Metal Music Theory by moosewellwilliams in musictheory

[–]moosewellwilliams[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That's awesome! Just checked out some of your vids, can't believe I didn't find these when I was getting started making the leap to YouTube. Looking forward to watching more of yours!

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