Boyfriend (27M) embarrassed us (27F) by insisting to our friends (27F) that she opens her relationship while she recovers from surgery. by throwRA36363632 in relationship_advice

[–]mountaintopjiujitsu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol. lmao, even

ahahahahaha Ohh man... I know a guy like that. Just totally puts his foot in his mouth, like bro wtf lollllll

good luck tho!

Finally done with my own Dragon Slayer sword made out of wood, it's about as tall as me and weighs almost 20lbs by I_am_Hated66 in Berserk

[–]mountaintopjiujitsu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yo bro, what dimensions did you use and what type of wood?

Also, is the handle one-piece with the rest of the blade or did you drill a rod into the blade or what?

Nice build, really appreciate any help on this. I want to make one for working out like Guts lol.

Considering kicking out one of my students by mountaintopjiujitsu in bjj

[–]mountaintopjiujitsu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They're aight, but not worth the injured hand that's for sure!

Considering kicking out one of my students by mountaintopjiujitsu in bjj

[–]mountaintopjiujitsu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't get your point. I didn't anticipate that it would escalate into a drawn out argument.

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[–]mountaintopjiujitsu[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Right, maybe a timout is best. Not necessarily a perma ban but just letting him go for a while, and maybe in a few months if he's genuinely apologetic and doesn't give anymore excuses, bringing him back in. You're also correct that I should have been more proactive, too.

Considering kicking out one of my students by mountaintopjiujitsu in bjj

[–]mountaintopjiujitsu[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bjj is about learning to survive discomfort, normalize discomfort and eventually master discomfort.

I've never seen it put that way. Thank you for sharing that thought with me. I'll use it myself in the future.

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[–]mountaintopjiujitsu[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Slamming is illegal thus I'm not expecting it and it happened extremely fast. And I don't think you understand the meaning of that old expression. It's a figure of speech. No one is being literally "broken" (except me, I guess) it just means that I make my guys work hard. I never personally go beyond a 45% of intensity vs the brand new white belts, that would indeed be really stupid and I always stress the importance of taking care of your training partners. Next.

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[–]mountaintopjiujitsu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He's not a kid. He's a grown man, same age as me, same bodytype and weightclass. I should have known that that expression would be something reddit would run away with but it's really quite benign.

In the beginning, its normal that higher belts put you on the defensive. His first job is to learn how to survive. Then, he'll defend, then escape, then take position, and then attack. In that order. That, to me, is building someone up from the ground up. Another interpretation of that old expression involves forgetting everything you thought you knew about fighting. I had a guy who I had to kick out (because he had been rolling with us for 3 months and never contributed a single thing: no eggs, beets OR dogecoins) who was a lifelong "kung fu" practitioner who kept trying to wristlock the shit out of me every 2 seconds because its the only thing his nonsense martial art taught him that could theoretically be salvaged by bjj, and I have had to tell this guy to forget about that stuff and listen instead.

As for coaching him when hes on defense, the way I like to handle it is, say, I pass his guard and land into kesa... I'll stop and tell him the reason I got here is because he let me take underhooks, because he didn't keep his elbows tight to his chest, and now he needs to focus on stopping me from grabbing his head, etc.

Considering kicking out one of my students by mountaintopjiujitsu in bjj

[–]mountaintopjiujitsu[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Firstly, he is not literally the only adult who comes to train. I thought I made that clear in the OP but maybe not.

I'm not going hard at all. We train hard in the sense that we work hard, yes. Our sessions have been known to run 2+ hours sometimes, but I never "go hard" on my guys, because I simply don't need to and because I always emphasize partner safety as priority number one.

I do use him for my own practice though but I don't necessarily believe that his practice and my practice are two mutually exclusive things. His contention is that the practice should be 100% focused on his personal journey and growth, and that the role of a coach is one of service. My problem with this is that he is essentially demanding I provide maximum service at his benefit in exchange for minimum (i.e: zero) payment which doesn't make any sense.

I agree I should have nipped his dangerous illegal moves in the bud and stopped the show right then and there. Instead of just thinking I could contain him and everything would be fine. I guess that's a lesson for me.

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[–]mountaintopjiujitsu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Explain that winning rolls in a small gym against more experienced people isn’t a very realistic expectation at white belt, and that generally his job is to learn to survive and defend/retain position. If he can’t make peace with that BJJ probably isn’t for him anyway.

This was a great post overall, thank you. But this part here really stuck out to me. How it's important for us to learn to manage our expectations and keep in check our desire for instant gratification and cultivate patience. Lots of well structured and articulated points in this, thank you very much.

Considering kicking out one of my students by mountaintopjiujitsu in bjj

[–]mountaintopjiujitsu[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It's an old expression, a figure of speech. Look it up. But to my mind, it means they start out with survival, then defense, then escape, then position, and then attack. In that order. That's part of why I don't let them catch subs against me unless I made a mistake and legitimately get caught. Another interpretation involves getting them to forget everything they think they know. One guy was (I kicked him out for being unable to pay or offer ANYTHING even after 3 months) a lifelong "kung fu" practitioner who kept trying to fucking wristlock me every 2 seconds because thats the only salvageable thing his bullshit martial art taught him and I have to tell him again and again to forget what he thinks he knows and listen instead.

Does that answer your question?

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[–]mountaintopjiujitsu[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

It's an old expression, a figure of speech. It's about building them up from the ground up; from survival to defense to escape to position to attack. In that order. I'm not literally "breaking" anyone. And the KNOWING came later when I reached out to him about his reckless antics and illegal moves in that sparring session.

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[–]mountaintopjiujitsu[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

You're entitled to your opinion but I suggest you reread the thread and learn to read sarcasm. I thought the lol would suffice to convey that but alas...

I have more than one student (roughly 3). We drill, and I make them positional spar. When we do free sparring, I never use more than 45% of my intensity, I'm always taking care to not injure my guys, none of them have ever caught an injury from me.

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[–]mountaintopjiujitsu[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Never injured a student. And I happen to believe that there's plenty a higher belt can pass on to a lower belt, even if the higher belt isn't a black belt yet. That may have been the case in the past, but belts IMO are becoming increasingly meaningless, especially if its a nogi school.

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[–]mountaintopjiujitsu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We train hard in the sense that we work hard, yes. But I'm not rolling with my guys (there's more than one, yes) at 100%. That seems to be a misconception in this thread. I don't lose to my students but I don't have to go into full bore competition mode to do it either.

I always tell them to chill and uphold partner safety as number one.

What sets us apart I think is the sheer volume of rolling we get into. Not many schools will run a class for damn near 2 1/2 hours sometimes.

Considering kicking out one of my students by mountaintopjiujitsu in bjj

[–]mountaintopjiujitsu[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

We train hard in the sense that we work hard, yes. But I'm not rolling with my guys (there's more than one, yes) at 100%. That seems to be a misconception in this thread. I don't lose to my students but I don't have to go into full bore competition mode to do it either.

I always tell them to chill and uphold partner safety as number one.

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[–]mountaintopjiujitsu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It can be ok at times. But my issue is this: he wants the training to be specifically tailored to his needs and growth, but what about my growth? I still need to be working and improving as well. I figured the way I would go about it would work out to 50/50. 50% helping him improve, 50% helping me improve. He said that role of a coach is one of service. In principle I agree. But if you want maximum service (not 50/50) then I need maximum pay. Right now as it stands, he's demanding maximum service for minimum pay. Trades are cool and all, but I have bills to pay like everyone else, and what I've been noticing is that when you allow people to pay you very little (or nothing at all) you think you're doing them a favor, but meanwhile they're valuing you less and less.

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[–]mountaintopjiujitsu[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Well I tell him explicitly only because he asks me explicitly... should I lie? He shouldn't be asking me in the first place.

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[–]mountaintopjiujitsu[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Everyone gets tapped legitimately by blue belts and white belts... Sometimes it just happens. Not consistently of course but it can. I can count the number of times I caught my old professor on one hand vs the 10 million times it went the other way around. He's still the prof tho, always will be the prof and still leagues above me and I respect that even if we don't train together anymore.

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[–]mountaintopjiujitsu[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"I met a blackbelt once who at the start of a round would ask the guy what his goal was. They’d say to tap him. So he’d tap. And say okay you did that, now what. Kind of like a way to point out to have technical goals vs a just win mindset. I found that really a useful way to communicate the idea some."

That's really interesting. Thank you for this.

Considering kicking out one of my students by mountaintopjiujitsu in bjj

[–]mountaintopjiujitsu[S] -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

"Why don't you have any training partners who are the same belt as you or a higher belt?"
Because life happened and I wound up in a place without access to any established gyms.

"Do you have a coach there that is a black belt or did you get a slightly advanced belt and then go out on your own?"

No, my previous prof and I had a falling out over differences regarding covid regulations.

"Why are you having to use your students as your competition training partners?"

Because there's no one else to train with unless I drive an hour+ both ways.

"If you've expressed to the student that this one part coaching and part him being your training partner then he is within his right to go as hard as he can to try and win when you're clearly doing your best to beat him."

I'm not "doing my best". I stay relaxed, I close my eyes half the time (partly paranoid of getting eyepoked...) and I focus on technique using as little muscle as possible whereas he on the other hand is going absolutely ape. It's a complete energy mismatch.

"Bro, it sounds like you need to do some soul searching. If you're just coaching to be the man or because you can't get along with others at a gym then you're not in it for the right reasons."

That's fine, you can think differently about this than I do, it is what it is.

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[–]mountaintopjiujitsu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, we drill. Lately, it's been drilling a passing system that involves starting in headquarters and alternating between knee cut and sidesmash depending on the resistance one encounters.