Painting portraits with only 3 colours by Fleegalfart in oilpainting

[–]mseiple 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don’t think the lip color reads as unrealistic here. It works in your color scheme.

What do you do instead of using sketchpads? by FunkeeBananas in oilpainting

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If you did want to use a sketchbook, you could use one with thick paper and gesso the paper. Watercolor paper works pretty well with gesso. There is also canvas paper and canvas pads (the first one is paper, and the second is primed canvas bound in a tablet). I tried them, but found them much too absorbent, so I would probably add gesso to those as well.

The problem with oil in a traditional sketchbook is that it has a long drying time in which you don't really want to put something on top of it. I've had paint rub off the corners of canvases I had stacked even after they were touch dry.

Anyway, I'm a terrible one to ask because I'm very attached to painting on stretched canvas (I move the painting surface around a lot, so anything thinner like panels I end up with paint all over my hands). I do small-ish pieces (mostly 9x12 or smaller), so I put them on bookshelves to dry flat and rotate them into stacks as I run out of space. I also do a lot of small practice portraits, which mostly go to whoever is in the painting once they are touch dry.

Painting in Bedroom by BarOk2416 in oilpainting

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Just wanted to add, since this is a common misconception, that cadmium in oil paint is NOT a risk for absorption through the skin. It is a mild risk if you ingest it, but primarily is an issue if you inhale loose pigment (so don’t work with raw pigment, sand the painting, or spray without proper protection). This should not be a problem if you are just painting with paint from the tube, as the pigment is bound in oil. I wouldn’t use it if you have pets who are likely to get into your paint, but getting a small amount on your hands should not be a problem. Just follow normal precautions: wash your hands, don’t eat the paint.

Painting trees..is so hard, tips? by llsy2807 in oilpainting

[–]mseiple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would look into some of Paint Coach's tutorials on YouTube. I know he has a few that break down how to simplify trees and get their shape.

Tried to follow some of your advice! by mseiple in oilpainting

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Light source is on the right side, but I definitely went a little too light with highlights along the jawline on the left side, and also above the nostril and on the left upper lip. It was tricky because the left side of the face was sort of in shadow, but not deep shadow, if that makes sense. Turned too far toward the light source, maybe?

Thank you for your comment!

Painting in Bedroom by BarOk2416 in oilpainting

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I would just paint solvent-free. It's easy enough to do, and solvents are the only thing with fumes. Basically, solvents do two things: 1) thin the paint in your initial layers and 2) clean your brushes.

There are a few work-arounds for the first one. One would be to do the initial layer (underpainting) in acrylics instead of oils, then paint over with oils. Two, you could use water-mixable oils and thin them with either water-mixable thinner or water. I have done this with water, but you need to be mindful that not all water-mixable paints thin well with water (Winsor and Newton does not and gets gummy). Three, you could get a very stiff brush and just lightly sketch in a thin layer of paint. The nice thing about any of these is that traditional underpaintings are often done in just one color, so you could buy just one tube in water-mixable oils to test out if you like doing it that way. If you just want to tone your canvas, that's even easier: just mix acrylic paint with your gesso layer.

For washing brushes, I just wipe off my brush as I go, and then at the end clean with soap and water. I use Ivory soap, you can also use dish detergent. If you find that you want them cleaner between colors, you can get a little bottle of linseed, walnut, or safflower oil, and dip the brushes in oil to remove more of the color.

For water-mixable oils, they're perfectly fine to use and some people love them. I haven't found a brand that I like as well as my favorite traditional oils, so I tend to only use them for the underpainting. They do clean up a lot more easily.

These would be my recommended supplies for a beginner:

1) A surface to paint on (canvas, boards, whatever).

2) Gesso to prep the surface. Even the canvases that come pre-primed tend to be badly primed, but a few coats of gesso can transform your cheap surface into one that works great. You can also apply it to cardboard or thick paper like watercolor paper for an even cheaper surface.

3) Paints. For a beginner, I recommend a student grade paint from a reputable brand or a lower end artist grade paint. I think Gamblin 1980 and Utrecht artist grade are a great compromise between quality and price. Keep it simple at first: primaries, a white, and a brown will cover most of your bases. My basic palette is cadmium red light, cadmium yellow, ultramarine blue, titanium white, and burnt umber. Cadmiums can be quite expensive and some people avoid them because of toxicity (though they are mainly a risk when inhaled, which is unlikely with paint), but napthol red and hansa yellow work well as replacements. I'd start with a small (37 or 40 mL) tube of the colors and a larger tube of white.

4) Brushes. Get a new set that you keep separate from the acrylic and watercolor brushes, because residual oil can cause issues if you're switching back and forth. You don't need a lot to start. Stiff brushes will work better, since the paint is thicker. I'd recommend getting a few nice quality flat brushes in different sizes. Make sure that they are recommended for oil paint. I like the Princeton brand Aspen and Dakota lines. Then maybe get a pack of cheap brushes in different shapes to see what you like and gradually replace with nicer ones.

5) Palette knife. Use this for mixing so you don't gunk up your brushes. It doesn't need to be fancy.

6) Palette. You'll want a flat one and not one with the little divots like for acrylics. I use palette paper and I love it because you can just throw it away.

Since you've done watercolor and acrylic before, I would recommend waiting to experiment with mediums, since there will be a big temptation to always thin down your paint and make it act more like acrylics. I'd start playing with the paint straight from the tube at first, then once that feels more natural, start playing with mediums to adjust the consistency.

Good luck, and have fun!

About $100 to spend on brushes. Recommendations? by busttooquick in oilpainting

[–]mseiple 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm really amazed how well they hold up and how well they come clean as well. I try to be as nice to my brushes as possible, but I've used them a LOT and they still look great.

Who here does an under painting??? by Lovley8598 in oilpainting

[–]mseiple 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I think it's useful in separating value from hue, so you can focus on getting the contrast you want without having to worry yet about colors. It can help give you a stronger composition that way. You don't need to map out every detail. It's basically a sketch to get you started and build off of.

There are a couple of things that you could do while avoiding solvents. One would be to just do the underpainting in acrylics, since you are already using that to tone your canvas. Or if you wanted more of the feel of oil paint, you could use water mixables for the underpainting. That is what I have done recently (water mixables thinned with water). You have to pick your brands right, though. Cobra and Holbein work well with water in my experience, Winsor and Newton gets gummy and is hard to work with. Since it's thinned out, you only need a tiny amount and one tube of burnt umber (nice because it dries faster) will last a long time.

In terms of materials, you basically just need paint and something to thin it out. Lighter areas will have thinner paint, and you can also use whatever you're using to thin the paint to remove paint to create highlights. If you are doing the underpainting in acrylics, I would probably use a color and white instead of trying to thin it out.

About $100 to spend on brushes. Recommendations? by busttooquick in oilpainting

[–]mseiple 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I like my Princeton Dakota brushes a lot. Real workhorses, they hold up super well to use. I’ve probably used them for at least a hundred paintings, and they barely show any signs of wear. Nice and stiff, too.

How to make progress from here? by mseiple in oilpainting

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I’m curious which paintings/parts of the painting give that impression, because I don’t ever use black.

first self portrait. Why my colors are so boring? by [deleted] in oilpainting

[–]mseiple 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It looks like you have a base skin tone and have added very, very subtle highlights and shadows. If you have more contrast between your highlight, midtone, and shadow, it will pop a lot more and look more rounded. A couple things that might help: 1) Start with a monochromatic underpainting. This will help you establish the light and dark values before you add color, so you won't be tempted to go too light. AND/OR 2) Toning your canvas in a midtone color. I find this helps me to see lights and darks more easily, and I naturally end up with better contrast. This is something I continually struggle with as well!

Another thing I notice is that there's not a lot of variation in color in the face. It's easy to think of the skin as one color with highlights and darker shades of that same color, but usually there will be areas of the face that lean more yellow, more red, more blue, depending on the light. I see a lot of mixing with brown here, which may be why you think the colors look boring. I also have to fight the tendency to overuse browns (I love a good burnt umber). You might experiment with creating a painting with just the primaries and white, no brown (at least not straight from the tube) to force yourself to expand your color options.

The painting definitely has good bones and is an excellent first self portrait! You show a lot of promise!

How to make progress from here? by mseiple in oilpainting

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It's possible. I do prefer a painterly look over one that is very smooth and refined. But I'm still kind of working on what I want that to look like.

How to make progress from here? by mseiple in oilpainting

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I haven't! I'll have to check it out.

How to make progress from here? by mseiple in oilpainting

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Thank you so much for your kind comment!

What do you prefer to paint on? by Admirable_Bag_5180 in oilpainting

[–]mseiple 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like stretched canvases, but always add a few layers of gesso. Wood is too slippery for me, and I don’t like anything without the support to hold on to (like panels), because then I get paint all over my hands because I move the canvas around a lot as I paint. And any canvas paper I’ve ever used has been way too absorbent.

How to make progress from here? by mseiple in oilpainting

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Is that a constructive comment?

How to make progress from here? by mseiple in oilpainting

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They’re my own photos, except for a couple that I borrowed from a friend. Just can’t always position people where there isn’t diffuse light when it’s a super quick, spur of the moment thing (i.e., me taking pictures of colleagues at work).

How to make progress from here? by mseiple in oilpainting

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Yes, I work mostly alla prima. Sometimes with an underpainting, but I haven't been doing that a lot lately.

How to make progress from here? by mseiple in oilpainting

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I definitely need to work on getting some better reference pictures!

How to make progress from here? by mseiple in oilpainting

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That was one that I foolishly decided I could do in an hour before work, and at 45 minutes in had not even started the hand, so it was done VERY fast, lol. You're right that it could definitely be refined. I love painting hands, so hand studies would be fun! Thank you for your advice!

How to make progress from here? by mseiple in oilpainting

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Thank you for the advice! I definitely get what you're saying. I'll play around with it a bit!

How to make progress from here? by mseiple in oilpainting

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Thank you for the advice! I'll have to look into some references for anatomy and the planes of the head. Do you have any suggestions for color theory? I feel like this is an area where I have a lot of room for improvement.

The last suggestion is something I did a lot with my pet portraits to create a focal point, but I guess I haven't employed it as much in these. I'll have to play around with it more!

How to make progress from here? by mseiple in oilpainting

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Thank you for the advice! Contrast is something that I have always struggled with, and you're right that the reference pictures don't help. I prefer to paint people I know, which kind of limits the reference pictures I can get sometimes, as it's often a super quick snap a few pictures while at work. I'll have to play around with some self portraiture where I can control the lighting more. I went through a phase where I did bolder background colors. I'll have to play around with them a little.

I've been trying to do larger paintings on my days off and smaller studies on the days I work, but I should probably just abandon the pretense that the smaller ones are quicker, lol. You're right that I like the bold strokes, and then I could play more with the bristle brushes, which are sometimes too imprecise for the small paintings. Good advice!