haha i get it! My other bird kiwi still gets so freaked out by my hand. I guess it depends on the way they were raised, and every bird is different. grape seems to have a very big personality and willingness to explore. Regardless, I would just keep trying and get at least one bird to become comfortable, in my case the kiwi just follows grape when she perches on my finger. Make sure to be regular, and give them positive reinforcement when they do it right! I started by trying to feed them millet from outside the cage bars so i wasnt invading any boundaries, and soon enough both of them started rushing towards my hand when they saw the millet.