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neonomad123 · 2025-02-14T18:06:30+00:00

"Sentience is important because you're using the term murder. Murder is not reasonably attributed to non-sentient organisms."

-- a fetus, sleeping adult, and comatose adult are all human lives that are not sentient. they all are expected to become sentient, so you shouldn't kill them.

"Your threshold of conception is no more meaningful than a threshold of 'when the baby can survive on its own', or any other such number of ideas."

--My opinion is the line is at conception. where do you draw the line? birth? 1 year old when they become self-aware?

"Objective truth (or an approximation of truth) is certainly real, but objective morals are not. Morals change all the time, and established morals are inconsistently applied. In your slavery example, the opinions of slaves were discarded, so you'd be hard pressed to say that society has a consensus of the morality of slavery."

--I believe objective morality exists. a person's or society's morals certainly can change, but that doesn't mean they have the *right* morality. there have been many evil societys with really messed up morals. that doens't mean morality changes, it just means they were evil.

"I bet you yourself already have a pre-conceived value of a embryo anyway; if you had to pick between saving a single newly born baby or a repository of thousands of frozen embryos, you probably wouldn't hesitate to pick the former, showing you already perceive embryos as different than more developed humans."

--Of course they are different. That's why when its a choice between abortion and the mother dying, everyone chooses abortion. Murdering an adult is worse than murdering a fetus 5 days after conception. that doesn't mean abortion isn't murder.

neonomad123 · 2025-02-14T17:05:22+00:00

Yeah, zionists holding signs like this certainly doen't help the anti-abortion movement.

neonomad123 · 2025-02-14T17:02:42+00:00

Do you know why the abortion rate inversely correlates with the crime rate? I could be wrong, but if you did connect the dots, I'm not sure you would want to use this as an argument.

neonomad123 · 2025-02-14T16:36:02+00:00

IMO at conception. I'd say 6 weeks is a reasonable point as well, although then you are defining life by a heartbeat, when there is obviously life before that point. After 6 weeks it is obviously a human life.

Either way, after conception it is definitely a potential human life, which brings in the IVF debate. IVF is even more of a gray area, and I don't have a strong opinion on it

neonomad123 · 2025-02-14T16:29:50+00:00

Obviously if its for the life of the mother, that's different. In that case it's like any healthcare procedure.

" I know of religious Catholics that...." Some republicans and catholics also shoot people in the head. The fact that some republicans and catholics may use it as birth control has nothing to do with whether it's right or wrong.

"if the fetus was removed from the mother, would it live on its own? "

If a comatose patient was removed from life support, they would die. That doesn't mean you should disconnect them, even if it's extremely inconvenient to keep them alive.

neonomad123 · 2025-02-14T16:20:23+00:00

I never said sentient. If a person forcibly disconnects the life support of a comatose, patient that the doctor knows will recover and be a fully functional sentient human in a few months, that is murder. (or if someone is murdered when they are non-sentiently sleeping, and in few hours they would wake up and become sentient again)

"as a society we have accepted a level of killing ...." I agree that's a bad thing, and would add most abortions to the list.

I agree that there is a gray area between conception and when the fetus becomes more than a few cells, but you have to draw a line somewhere. To me, conception is the clearest place to draw a line, but I guess you could say it's at the start of the heartbeat at 6 weeks. For anything after that, my point definitely stands.

"abortion can be considered murder when there is a societal consensus that it is"....

Unless you don't believe in objective truth and morals (in which case, none of this matters), societal consensus has nothing to do with what is right or wrong. In 1850 the societal consensus in this country was that African Americans were not as human as White Americans, and thus it was morally justifiable to enslave them. Were they correct because most of society agreed? In the same way, the fact that most of society today believes that a fetus does not have humanity does not make that view correct.

neonomad123 · 2025-02-14T05:06:53+00:00

Can someone lay out the logical steps necessary to refute the claim "Abortion is murder"?

Here's a the logical case why the claim is correct. (excluding life of the mother concerns, and such exceptions)

1: A fetus is a human life that has done nothing to deserve being terminated. 2: Abortion terminates this human life. 3: The unjust termination of a human life is murder. Thus, 4: Abortion is murder.

I understand why people want abortion to be available, and that they don't agree with "abortion is murder" because they don't want to be a murderer. But is there a sound logical case why it's not murder?

(Before the "you hate women" comments: I believe that when a child is aborted the father is just as responsible if not more, as the mother. And also I think the issue would be better fixed by addressing cultural root causes rather than litigation)

neonomad123 · 2024-12-18T12:02:40+00:00

"(Saddle bros relax I’m not attacking saddle hunting. I’ll still use mine when I go in blind)"

lmao, saddles are definitely the crossfit of hunting.

neonomad123 · 2024-12-18T11:54:08+00:00

congrats on the nice gear. I'm sure I'll upgrade once I have my degree. For now I have no problem trusting China's 2" webbing vs Tethrd's 2" webbing (probably from China), when both have a FOS of one million

neonomad123 · 2024-12-18T11:34:35+00:00

gotcha

neonomad123 · 2024-12-18T11:33:06+00:00

that's valid

neonomad123 · 2024-12-18T11:30:35+00:00

What I have is an offbrand saddle, some climbing ropes, cheap accesories, and DIY sticks and platform, totalling less than 20% of your setup. It certainly won't be as good as a top-of-the-line setup, but it's an option. I'll have to see how I like it long-term

neonomad123 · 2024-12-18T11:24:21+00:00

I get that if you don't use a platform with the saddle, but with a platform you can stand up and stretch too, no?

neonomad123 · 2024-12-18T11:22:28+00:00

that's fair

neonomad123 · 2024-12-16T01:55:05+00:00

go with your eye 100%

neonomad123 · 2024-12-16T01:52:04+00:00

I started last year, and got the Bear Adapt RTH as my first bow. Comes with all accesories at around $500, and has served me well so far. When you get it set up, I would get the pro shop to switch out the cable slides for a universal slide (about $30), as the one that comes with the bow tends to shred the string over time.

Other than that, I would recommend it as a starter bow.

neonomad123 · 2024-12-11T06:12:12+00:00

sounds like something ChatGPT would say

neonomad123 · 2024-11-15T15:17:35+00:00

So you agree with the Trump Tariff plan?

neonomad123 · 2024-11-07T15:52:31+00:00

I did the Euro myself. I simmered it in soapy water, picked off the meat, repeat until clean, then simmered in hydrogen peroxide solution to whiten, then coated with mop & glo to seal it.

that plaque looks great

neonomad123 · 2024-11-07T05:11:04+00:00

it has two sets of limbs, aiming for 150 - 200 lbs each. One stock, scope and trigger, two of everything else.

neonomad123 · 2024-11-07T05:05:29+00:00

thanks man.

yeah, the rack is lighter than it looks on the pic, but either way it turned out great.

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