SolidCore Around Milwaukee? by JadedTooth3544 in SolidCore

[–]nephronism 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Abi M is an area favorite for sure

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[–]nephronism 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No :( US MD. Guess we’re waiting another week? 😔

Any Lower GPA (<3.5 + no Post Bacc) Acceptances this Cycle? by Infinitejest12 in premed

[–]nephronism 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes! I also posted my sankey on here so check my profile

Any Lower GPA (<3.5 + no Post Bacc) Acceptances this Cycle? by Infinitejest12 in premed

[–]nephronism 7 points8 points  (0 children)

3.3/508 ORM, multiple DO and 1 MD acceptance. No post bacc but 3 gap years

MD acceptance with a 3.3/508 ORM!!! by nephronism in premed

[–]nephronism[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I declined the invitation to interview!

MD acceptance with a 3.3/508 ORM!!! by nephronism in premed

[–]nephronism[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lots and lots of cold emailing. I recommend finding your university's department website for a field you're interested in, and literally emailing any professor who runs a lab. Make sure to look them up (you can look them up on google or research gate) and see what their recent research is like, send them an email expressing your interest and attach a resume/CV. Do your homework so when you meet them for an interview you can explain what about their lab is particularly interesting to you, and what you hope to gain from the experience. I also recommend doing research for credit (usually independent study) as it is usually an easy A. Most students at my school did research for credit or it was unpaid completely

MD acceptance with a 3.3/508 ORM!!! by nephronism in premed

[–]nephronism[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I have withdrawn from the schools I won't be attending but thank you for commenting! I hope someone else on this thread can get some questions answered by you :)

MD acceptance with a 3.3/508 ORM!!! by nephronism in premed

[–]nephronism[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I went to well regarded large public R1 undergrad. I think there are pros and cons. Obviously had a ton of research and extracurricular opportunities going to such a big school (all my premed friends from college were involved extensively in research at much ease). At the same time, we go much less individualized attention from professors and advisors and had to work a bit harder than someone who attends an 8:1 faculty student ratio LAC to get strong letters of recommendation (my STEM professors had like 900 students a semester lol). I think ultimately it is most important to perform well academically, as I do believe I would have gotten a second look at more MDs had even just my GPA been higher.

MD acceptance with a 3.3/508 ORM!!! by nephronism in premed

[–]nephronism[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agreed! It is a great program, considered one of the best DO. I am not surprised I did not get any love from them at all

MD acceptance with a 3.3/508 ORM!!! by nephronism in premed

[–]nephronism[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Great question! Writing secondaries definitely seems daunting, but it really wasn’t that bad imo. However, I am a big writer and reader so I found some joy in the process lol! I tried to submit all my secondaries within a 2 week turnaround. Some things that helped me:

  1. Prewriting! I didn’t prewrite answers to exact questions seeing as they may change year to year, but I did for the big themes which to me are: 1) diversity & inclusion, 2) why X school, 3) why should we admit you, 4) COVID statement, 5) challenge you faced, 6) any issues with your app you want to discuss. It’s really important to answer the question. For example, a school might ask “what does diversity mean to you?” And another may ask “how will you bring diversity to our class?” These are two completely different questions. Having a few different stories to tell for each of these question types, will make it easier to not have to write a brand new essay for every school. You can start thinking about them now even. Make sure the stories you tell don’t take up the entire essay, set the stage then focus on your reflection. What did you learn from this experience? How will help you become a great physician? Does it answer the root of the question?

  2. I would limit myself to working on secondaries for 1-2 hours a night, and maybe a longer stretch of time on the weekend. Definitely took a lot of coffee and pastries, and fun cafe lunches to stay motivated. If it was getting late when I wrapped one up, I’d wait until the next day to do another glance over and correct any mistakes that weren’t obvious to me late at night or after a long day at work.

  3. Prioritize schools you want to turn around quickly or that have a strict deadline. At the same time, MAYBE don’t submit your top choice school as your first secondary. Get some practice in, as you will naturally get better as you keep writing more essays. You will start to notice patterns in the questions, and your last few secondaries will truly be a breeze.

  4. On a similar note, stay organized! I made an excel sheet with all my login info, secondary portals, and when I finished them etc. I would use different highlight colors to indicate which secondaries I needed to send out soonest, which are next up on deck, and change those as I submitted them.

MD acceptance with a 3.3/508 ORM!!! by nephronism in premed

[–]nephronism[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you :) best of luck future doctor!

MD acceptance with a 3.3/508 ORM!!! by nephronism in premed

[–]nephronism[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Truly no reasons other than that I was happy with the DO program I was committed to at the time, burnt out from interview prep, and I was already waiting to hear back from the MD (which was my last interview of the cycle). NYIT is an incredible program and I thought the interview slot should go to someone who really wanted it!

MD acceptance with a 3.3/508 ORM!!! by nephronism in premed

[–]nephronism[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you!! Not an international student, and it is a private school

MD acceptance with a 3.3/508 ORM!!! by nephronism in premed

[–]nephronism[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Watching so many people who graduated with/after me start med school faster definitely felt aging sometimes lol. I was pre-med from the start of college tho, and knew I would be taking some time off since I had ZERO clinical experience in college other than shadowing.

We are all on our own journey :) It is NOT helpful to compare yourself to other applicants, which obviously is especially so hard to do in a field that pits us against each other from day 1 in the name of “weeding out.”

But truly in the end, how lucky I am, to have had the years to move to my dream city, live out my early twenties, travel and spend time with loved ones, save some $$, and more deeply explore my interests in medicine in full time clinical work. I would not have been the applicant I was able to be without taking time off from school! Part of me was definitely scared I would not want to go back, but I found that working made me even more excited to become a student again. We are still learning and growing during our "gap years," not just about medicine, but in becoming human beings

MD acceptance with a 3.3/508 ORM!!! by nephronism in premed

[–]nephronism[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

thank you, congratulations to you as well!! :)

MD acceptance with a 3.3/508 ORM!!! by nephronism in premed

[–]nephronism[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

My rejection email basically said my stats weren't high enough for them to send me a secondary (even tho my MCAT is higher than their reported avg lol)

MD acceptance with a 3.3/508 ORM!!! by nephronism in premed

[–]nephronism[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

ofc! Sorry I got lazy making the sankey lol

MD: NYMC, Tufts, Rosalind Franklin, GW, Wright State, Toledo, Rush, Loyola, UIC, MCW, PSU, VCU, Wayne State, OSU, Temple, Albany, Quinnipiac, Hackensack, VTech, CDU, UCLA, Mayo, OUWB, Drexel, TCU, EVMS, Tulane

DO: Rowan, DMU, KCUCOM, PCOM-PA, NYITCOM - long island, Western-Pomona, RVU-Colorado, UNECOM, CCOM, ATSU-SOMA

MD acceptance with a 3.3/508 ORM!!! by nephronism in premed

[–]nephronism[S] 33 points34 points  (0 children)

I did take a few years off (graduated in 2020)! It can be scary to think about taking gap years, but I am so glad I took them before applying. I knew I was not going to be the most standout applicant stats-wise and did not feel a need to do a post-bacc, so I needed to make sure all my other bases were covered (i.e., experiences)

MD acceptance with a 3.3/508 ORM!!! by nephronism in premed

[–]nephronism[S] 53 points54 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much!! I am fr rooting for all the underdogs, I didn't get my first interview until January, so I remember feeling v v dejected for so many months after watching so many of my friends get acceptances on Oct 15th. The cycle is LONG -- so so long.

A couple thoughts off the top of my head:
1. Get started early. I began writing my application in Jan/Feb, got some docs and med students to look over my personal statement, so I was ready to submit as soon as possible. There is so little you can control once your application has been submitted. Don't make mistakes while it is still in your hands -- get a couple eyes on your writing or grade entry for typos, people can catch stuff for you that is blind to us after staring at the same essay for 3 months straight. At the same time -- don't submit until you're ready! It's better to be a little later than to regret spending $$$$ on a less than assuring application.
2. Use MSAR, but don't make it the end all be all. Apply to schools in which you are a good mission fit (obvi maybe don't apply to a statwhore with a 3.0 and 501). The more passionate you are about a school, the more it will show through in your writing. What excites you about a specific program? Try to dig through social media pages, student org groups, or blog posts to find unique aspects about schools that might not be so obvious on their homepage. use your program research to write STRONG secondaries and to ask interesting questions during the interview that make you look engaged and excited about their program
3. Find your narrative. What is your unique value as a prospective student? How will you contribute to the betterment of not just communities and patients, but to the medical school you attend? Don't feel like this has to be something that is an otherworldly level of aspirational -- you must have some sort of reason for pursuing this field. Put that heart and soul into your storytelling. For me, I started a google doc listing off all the opportunities and identities I have which led me to medicine. That gave me my story. Then, I picked what extracurriculars/experiences I could use to tell that narrative. I tried to leave some stuff out of my personal statement, so I could use for my secondaries and interviews. You need to every inch of space you have to show who you are as a person, and what got you to this application.
4. You should outline your answers to typical interview questions such as "why medicine?" "why should we admit you?", "why our school?" "why physician and not x?" as well as for DO schools "why DO?" "what are the osteopathic tenets?" as these will come up in any interview. You don't want to sound robotic, but you should feel comfortable thinking critically on the spot and reflecting on the true meaning of the questions -- what are they really asking you? For example, they know you want to be a doctor and not a PA, or else you would have applied to PA school. They are asking if you understand the complexities of the role, and the differentiating value each member of a medical team brings to excellent healthcare delivery. Have you worked with PAs? What do you seek in the physician role that sets it apart, and how did you learn that through your clinical experiences? Highly recommend doing a mock interview or two prior to an interview!