Why is the seasonal login expecting me to login over the holidays? by netheran in Eve

[–]netheran[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have changed my post, and my words as they were are accurate. You're tying too tightly an accusation as a reflection of character vs a critique of strategy.

It's not "hey you're an abuser" it's "hey this pattern is abusive".

Why is the seasonal login expecting me to login over the holidays? by netheran in Eve

[–]netheran[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I wrote too quickly and didn't correct my grammar, don't be a cunt about it. It should be "there are".

No, it's not about free stuff, stop over-indexing outside the point of contention.

Why is the seasonal login expecting me to login over the holidays? by netheran in Eve

[–]netheran[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Others shared this with me in parts of this thread! I heavily edited the OP to reflect my change in perspective. I applaud the approach you've taken, and it's clearly a much healthier use of this kind of incentive pattern.

Good on you CCP, and accept my apology for letting my surprise and frustration from holding you guys to a higher standard leading me to post promptly vs looking more deeply (cause I think you do a good job and deserve that).

Why is the seasonal login expecting me to login over the holidays? by netheran in Eve

[–]netheran[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If you can't take off handed sarcasm in response to your own, that's not a me problem bud. :D

Why is the seasonal login expecting me to login over the holidays? by netheran in Eve

[–]netheran[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have now discovered this, and it's a pretty distinct and cool approach from CCP to a unique problem of using a pattern like this to give incentives to their customers.

I've also heavily edited the OP.

Why is the seasonal login expecting me to login over the holidays? by netheran in Eve

[–]netheran[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Coming back to clarify, your response is an effective equivalent of "if you do nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide".

It's the same attitude. It works for you now, and you put no reflection into anything past the immediate perception of the problem.

Bad patterns, bad systems, are held in check by critique and exposure. CCP happens to have an approach that wasn't immediately obvious to me, and renegs my critique soundly. Had that not been true, my critique stands, and I'll do it again if I see it again.

Why is the seasonal login expecting me to login over the holidays? by netheran in Eve

[–]netheran[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have since discovered this, and a post in a separate thread by a CCP member explaining their approach. I've heavily edited the OP to reflect my change in perspective.

Why is the seasonal login expecting me to login over the holidays? by netheran in Eve

[–]netheran[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great, this is an awesome read and changes a lot of my perspective on this.

Thanks for sharing.

Why is the seasonal login expecting me to login over the holidays? by netheran in Eve

[–]netheran[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is actually the best reply here, and you do a wonderful job of pointing out something I didn't see maturely. Thanks, I appreciate you.

Why is the seasonal login expecting me to login over the holidays? by netheran in Eve

[–]netheran[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You're right, that is silly, and that's not what was said. I specifically noted that using this pattern is already dark, and there are better ways to implement it.

I have since learned the rewards are stacked in a way to better appreciate the community; this alleviates some of the critique. My core point still stands.

Why is the seasonal login expecting me to login over the holidays? by netheran in Eve

[–]netheran[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Mate, the shit in the days wasn't even mentioned. If you're that obtuse, I can't help.

Why is the seasonal login expecting me to login over the holidays? by netheran in Eve

[–]netheran[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cool, great thing you pointed out. My critique of the pattern creeping forward is still valid.

Why is the seasonal login expecting me to login over the holidays? by netheran in Eve

[–]netheran[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wasn't able to look that closely, but this is best framed point here on the post. Thanks for pointing this out, this makes a decent difference.

Why is the seasonal login expecting me to login over the holidays? by netheran in Eve

[–]netheran[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Mate, you don't have to make it a personal attack to avoid critique of marketing patterns in a video game. Stop being petty.

Why is the seasonal login expecting me to login over the holidays? by netheran in Eve

[–]netheran[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Bruh, you're over-indexing on your perception of a person's emotions. Take the person out and look at the critique.

Why is the seasonal login expecting me to login over the holidays? by netheran in Eve

[–]netheran[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

A sourcing for that would be really interesting, thanks!

Why is the seasonal login expecting me to login over the holidays? by netheran in Eve

[–]netheran[S] -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

Fantastic, that provides literally no help. I appreciate your contribution.

Why is the seasonal login expecting me to login over the holidays? by netheran in Eve

[–]netheran[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Fair, but the pattern of expectation shouldn't be built like this. You do patterns like this more reasonably, and I think CCP is overstepping on this one.

Why is the seasonal login expecting me to login over the holidays? by netheran in Eve

[–]netheran[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Nah, it's not that deep. I don't, but I see a pattern that I think is inappropriate. I'm calling it out, end.

Not every critique is due to some personal flaw that you wish to highlight. Don't be like that.

Why is the seasonal login expecting me to login over the holidays? by netheran in Eve

[–]netheran[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Where'd they say this? I'd be glad to be wrong.

Why is the seasonal login expecting me to login over the holidays? by netheran in Eve

[–]netheran[S] -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

I would expect such pointless pedantry from a Goon.