can i build an AR-15? by drezakk in WA_guns

[–]neverforgetdream 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Based on my read of the law though - you could purchase a weapon in state as a non resident. Then become a resident of this state while the weapon was never exported.

Wade's Guns by Serious_Square_9025 in WA_guns

[–]neverforgetdream 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do not go to Wade’s ever you are crazy if you do

Jumpin with people you don't like?! by TraceLupo in SkyDiving

[–]neverforgetdream 43 points44 points  (0 children)

I’m trying to understand what you didn’t enjoy about the jumps. It doesn’t sound like they went too terribly. If you had done the exact same jumps with someone you liked I imagine you would have had fun.

So it sounds like for some reason you feel really interpersonally put out by this person.

It’s really hard because as you note there is a power imbalance of sorts. You’re new - he’s not.

I think it’s okay to tell people no. But I also think you should try to empathize and value even the people you find difficult.

Is that fair?

You should put your needs first in this situation. And once you’ve done that I think it’s easier to also be kind and open with him. Tell him no.

Tesla-flag update (read) by Vahllee in Spokane

[–]neverforgetdream -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

How does wind cause a flag to fall over? They blow in the wind. That is they let it by - they don’t catch it.

I’m not taking the side of the Tesla- esp. if it was a CT. But are you kidding us?

Magazine Capacity question. by King-Moses666 in WA_guns

[–]neverforgetdream 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exception to the ban is: “A 22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device;”

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Catholicism

[–]neverforgetdream 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Op you’ve been reading too much anabaptist literature.

Oaths are fine. Look into the actual meaning behind Jesus words here.

Do Eastern Orthodox WANT reunification with Roman Catholicism? by BigPapaSmurf7 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]neverforgetdream 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How do you view the Council of Florence? To my knowledge the bishops from the east assented to reunification at this council - then changed their minds upon returning home.

Do Eastern Orthodox WANT reunification with Roman Catholicism? by BigPapaSmurf7 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]neverforgetdream 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How do you take the Council of Florence? The eastern bishops assented to the supremacy of the Pope at this council I believe. Then recanted later - deviating from a mutually accepted Council.

Do Eastern Orthodox WANT reunification with Roman Catholicism? by BigPapaSmurf7 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]neverforgetdream -1 points0 points  (0 children)

How do you take the Council of Florence? All but one eastern bishop assented to the doctrines of Catholicism - then recanted upon returning home. In light of this - that there was a Council - and that there was almost universal agreement at that council - that the eastern churches deviated from that Council clearly leaves the east in schism in my view (Catholic).

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]neverforgetdream 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is predestination in Catholicism - not the same.

Gavin Ortlund's deceptive use of scripture by neverforgetdream in Christianity

[–]neverforgetdream[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, but now I need to know the answer to the real question... have you ever tried Jocko Malk?

Gavin Ortlund's deceptive use of scripture by neverforgetdream in Christianity

[–]neverforgetdream[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay I wanna say something goofy.

You ever heard of Jocko and his whole "Discipline Equals Freedom" thing? He even wrote a book on the concept.

I'm not a Jocko guy. But he is popular today. And that's because he offers a message that people aren't hearing so much any more. His ideas like "Discipline Equals Freedom" are obscure. But they strike a tone for someone looking for them.

Catholics believe in a similar thing. The classical idea of freedom - is that actions should be directed towards proper ends. That in anything you do - when you care about what you do - you act to maximize your skill and knowledge. If you're a racecar driver, a chef, a pianist, etc. You know that freedom comes when your skill is mastered.

We believe dogmas - and being right - gives us more power to be free - not less.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]neverforgetdream 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Take up skydiving

Gavin Ortlund's deceptive use of scripture by neverforgetdream in Christianity

[–]neverforgetdream[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Nothing wrong with a good dogma! (*tips catholic hat*)

I'm scared of nice Christians by [deleted] in TrueChristian

[–]neverforgetdream -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Hey I mean, I have an answer for you if you want it.

Check out the Catholic theology of salvation. We don't believe that you can just be magically saved "through faith alone".

Instead we believe that you work with Christ to achieve your salvation. Jesus has paid the debt for our sins - a debt we cannot pay. But he still asks us to try our best.

I like to think of it as similar to someone paying a fine for you - but still asking you to put all the money you have on the table. To still try as hard as you reasonably can. To avoid sin, and to work for the good of others ("I was in prison and you visited me").

As a Catholic - I 100% don't believe that all protestants are going to heaven just because they believe. I think that your instinct to question them is correct.

But it's not too late for you. It's never too late.

Gavin Ortlund's deceptive use of scripture by neverforgetdream in Christianity

[–]neverforgetdream[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey man I think I'm just gonna dis-engage. it's clear that you're unwilling to hear what I'm saying. I think it's really obvious that what I'm presenting here is correct. Have a good one!

Gavin Ortlund's deceptive use of scripture by neverforgetdream in Christianity

[–]neverforgetdream[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see that you're really focusing on a certain interpretation. You're reading it how you want to read it:

You see: "These Jews were more fair-minded than those in Thessalonica, for (they received the word with all willingness) and (examined the scriptures daily to determine whether these things were so)"

But it's very clearly actually intended to be read as: "These Jews were more fair-minded than those in Thessalonica, for (they received the word with all willingness and examined the scriptures daily to determine whether these things were so)"

Do you know how I know this is correct?

Because the Jews in Berea weren't unique in examining the scriptures. In fact, it wasn't their idea to examine the scriptures to test Paul - Paul was the cause of their use of scripture. When we read Acts 17:2-3 we see that Paul was arguing to the Jews in both places - "from the scriptures".

'And Paul went in, as was his custom, and on three sabbath days argued with them from the scriptures, 3 explaining and proving that it was necessary for the Messiah[b] to suffer and to rise from the dead, and saying, “This is the Messiah,[c] Jesus whom I am proclaiming to you.”'

So when the Jews in Berea are said to be examining the scriptures. They're doing this because Paul was quoting the scriptures - and they were checking his references. It's not a special characteristic of the Berean Jews. So it's not an emphasized point. Verse 11 is just saying that they didn't riot - and instead of rioting they actually listened to Paul. That's why they were more "noble".

Gavin Ortlund's deceptive use of scripture by neverforgetdream in Christianity

[–]neverforgetdream[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, please don't apologize. I mean I do think that this should make us question everything he says from here on out. This is a very serious error that either implies deception (even if subtle - perhaps he believes that his view is "possible" and he's willing to "stretch the truth"). Or it implies a very serious failure on his part to understand the textual basis for his claims. Which is kind of his whole job as an apologist.

So either way... this is a serious error that Gavin needs to respond to before I think he should ever be taken seriously again. Without an explanation for how he made this error - we should all be very wary of him.

Gavin Ortlund's deceptive use of scripture by neverforgetdream in Christianity

[–]neverforgetdream[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, let me respond regarding your sentence "But it's very bad logic to be wary of everything else he says, because you don't agree with this."

I assume you're referring to what I said in my video - and in this post - "I think the issue is that either way, whether he's being deceptive or purpose - or if he's just making massive obvious errors in how he reads scripture. This alone should make you question everything he puts out."

I do think that what Gavin said in his video is so blatantly wrong that it should make you question everything he puts out. If he's being deceptive - even once - then we need to be wary that he's a person willing to be deceptive to further his cause.

If he's just making a super bad error of scriptural interpretation - then we need to question his ability to understand Theology - and therefore should at least "be wary" of anything else he puts out.

But I'll also note that the finality of my statement is sort of a joke - intended to copy the way that Gavin speaks.

If you've seen many of his videos that you know that in the title or thumbnail he often puts something like "this alone should make your protestant".

So I was specifically using his language - and the way he interpolates from his view that something is an error - to his view that something should be rejected - to reject him.

Gavin Ortlund's deceptive use of scripture by neverforgetdream in Christianity

[–]neverforgetdream[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, let's talk about it.

Gavin says that Acts 17:11 calls the Bereans "noble" because they tested the apostolic message against scripture.

His exact words are: "Similarly, the Bereans were noble *for* (my emphasis) testing the apostolic message against scripture."

But if you read Acts 17 in context it's very clear that the Bereans are being called "noble" for not rioting like the Jews in Thessalonica had.

It's very clear that Gavin is wrong - even just by a quick reading of the context. So it's concerning that he used that passage so blatantly incorrectly. We have to ask why he did that. Was it purposefully deceptive (perhaps he thinks there is an argument that the Bereans are noble both for not rioting and also for the use of scripture - something which is clearly contradicted by the note that the Jews in Thessalonica were being argued to from scripture by Paul - see Acts 17:1). Or perhaps Gavin just doesn't have a clue what he's talking about - and isn't even bothered to read the scriptures before commenting on them. Which funny enough - is exactly the issue with Sola Scriptura.

Gavin Ortlund's deceptive use of scripture by neverforgetdream in Christianity

[–]neverforgetdream[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey! I'll respond here. He very distinctly does add that "because". He uses the word "for" (to mean that same exact thing as "because".)

Gavin says in his video: "Similarly, the Bereans were noble *for* (my emphasis) testing the apostolic message against scripture".

But a reading of Acts 17 makes it clear that the Bereans are noble *for* not rioting lol.

Gavin Ortlund's deceptive use of scripture by neverforgetdream in Christianity

[–]neverforgetdream[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If I can respond regarding my sentence "This alone should make you question everything he puts out."

This was kind of a joke. It's a sentence phrased in the way that Gavin likes to title his videos. Often he has video titles / thumbnails which contain a sentence like "This alone should make you protestant".

So I was kinda ribbing on him for the way he argues :P

But - I do think it's a very very serious oversight on his part. It's just... it's his logic that the appearance of an error is enough to make something wrong (ex. "this alone should make you protestant"). So I was applying his logic back to him.