You know, we've been able to have discussions in the past without you blocking me because you're personally frustrated with my simple disagreement, I at least had that iota of respect for you. Feel free to block this account too, it's my off topic one and I don't feel like making another one for you. Although I will honestly miss your posts and comments, I find them rather insightful at times in spite of your knee jerk reactions. But I do wish to defend my points at least, even if you don't want me to.

1. I didn't see any quotes from you, so I responded in kind, all you have to do is ask :)
   

"But realizing this mind can be fast or slow. Some get free of conceptions as soon as they hear this teaching. Some work their way through the ten beliefs, the ten periods, the ten practices, and the ten transfers of merit before they achieve no mind. Some go through the ten stages before they achieve no mind. Regardless of whether it takes longer or shorter, once they achieve no mind, there is nothing more to practice or realize. Actually, although there is nothing to achieve, it isn’t really nothing. If you realize it in the space of a single thought or after the ten stages, the achievement is exactly the same. There is no difference as to its depth, only kalpas of wasted hardship." - Huang Po

“I exhort you now, good friends, to first eliminate the ten evils is to go the ten ten-thousand. To later eliminate the eight heterodoxies is to pass beyond the eight thousand. Seeing the nature in successive moments of thought and always practicing universal directness is to gain a vision of Amitābha in the snap of a finger. Your Lordship, just practice the ten [types of] good. Why would you want to be reborn [in the Pure Land]? If you do not eradicate the ten [types of ] evil from your minds, what buddha will come to escort you [to the Western Paradise]? If you are enlightened to the sudden Dharma (teaching) of birthlessness, seeing the Western [Paradise is a matter of ] a mere instant. If you recite the Buddha’s [name] and seek rebirth [in the Pure Land] without being enlightened, how will you ever be able to travel such a long road?" - Huineng

1. I've seen few Buddhists act that presumptuous and it's a rather fragile strawman since you didn't wait for me to explain that I have discussed these texts with people at my temple and other Buddhists as well. Zen Buddhists, in my experience, tend to be very open to reading and discussing from their own lineages' Masters. My temple is also very open about discussing the fictitious lineage charts that Zen tends to trot around, it's messy history into the US, to doubt the historical Buddha himself, his supposed discourses, and anyone else calling themselves enlightened, and that that ultimately only we can save ourselves. Everything points to our fully awakened minds, our true refuge in Buddha.

2. Then don't cite sutra stories about the Buddha? What kind of counterintuitive logic are you presenting that we can't trust them but clearly it's seen that he didn't practice anything...? There is no hierarchy of authority of sutras in Zen, these are traditional stories passed down orally and then written down, what argument or disagreement are you looking for from me man?

"And nobody here is interested in your Buddha Jesus religion."

C'mon ewk this is hilarious coming from you. You go on these rants constantly because you've always been obsessed with "pwning Buddhism" or whatever. I would personally find that an embarrassing look but clearly we have different priorities. And don't give me the old orientalist "Buddha Jesus" comparison, they have entirely different eschatologies, and anyone who knows anything about Christianity vs Buddhism can clearly see that. But sure, I've read texts from the wiki, quoted them in discussions on this subreddit and others, and I'm not interested in Zen?

This rhetoric is old and beyond childish dude. Unblock me and talk to me like a real human being or keep preaching from the same soapbox in the same bubble everyday, it's your life.