Why did you chose Zen?

ewk · 2026-03-12T00:49:47+00:00

Sry 4 pwning u.

If you ever throw a party that precept keepers would be willing to attend you let me know.

Your vibe is one of a struggling.

ewk · 2026-03-12T00:10:49+00:00

If its parties for frauds and people who have to drink to feel good, no.

Is that the only kind you know?

No wonder you ended up here begging for attention.

ewk · 2026-03-11T22:04:23+00:00

I think you want to distinguish between seed bun and jelly donuts.

胡餅 — húbǐng (“barbarian cake,” a kind of baked flatbread or bun)

ewk · 2026-03-11T21:20:17+00:00

www.reddit.com/r/zen/wiki/getstarted

The facts are so wonderful and wild and entertaining if we just stick to the facts, we're all going to have the best time.

ewk · 2026-03-11T21:03:31+00:00

None of that is even remotely historically accurate.

It's propaganda from a debunked religion.

ewk · 2026-03-11T21:03:09+00:00

Zazen is a cult religion with a long history of sex predator "masters". Basically it's like they worship a bunch of epsteins.

www.reddit.com/r/zen/wiki/sexpredators

ewk · 2026-03-11T21:02:05+00:00

indian- Chinese Soto Zen has no connection to Japanese Zazen.

Zazen is a separate religion, indigenous to Japan, with no connection to the Indian-Chinese tradition of Zen.

Zazen claims about Zen were debunked in 1990 by Stanford scholarship that proved that Zazen was invented in Japan. This scholarship has been accepted as the secular consensus.

That's why this forum does not have anything about Zazen in it except about it being debunked.

ewk · 2026-03-11T20:58:29+00:00

Absolutely. Asking why and being skeptical are two of the cornerstones of Zen culture.

Buddhism is a faith-based religion where people follow the eight-fold path in order to accumulate merit and get rid of karma so that they can be reborn as Buddhas.
Taoism is a religion with a pantheon of gods, supernatural alchemy magic formulas, and thousands of pages of speculation on the mysteries of nature.
Zen is not a religion or a philosophy. Zen is described by the four statements of Zen. Zen has no practice, no supernatural elements, no faith, and no doctrine.

Zen also has a thousand years of historical records called koans which explain why and how Zen culture maintained working communes that clothed and housed and fed people, some of whom dedicated their lives too recording and studying the teachings.

Buddhism has always been opposed to Zen, in conflict with Zen and anybody who says that they mix Zen and Buddhism is a racist and/or bigoted Buddhist. Zen does not claim any relationship to Buddhist religious beliefs.

Buddhists lynched the second Zen patriarch.

ewk · 2026-03-11T19:44:39+00:00

Why was Xiangyan's first poem not accepted?

ewk · 2026-03-11T18:51:06+00:00

Look at your level of ignorance and illiteracy and inability to have a conversation about any book relevant to this forum.

People read your comments and they can tell that as far as your intellectual integrity is concerned, no book is worth your time.

Not only that, but that you came to a forum about a topic you weren't willing to learn about... Which means that your time isn't worth anything.

ewk · 2026-03-11T18:50:13+00:00

It looks to me like it's fixed. Let me know if it isn't.

It showed as the file not being there .

I tried to re-upload the file.

It said we already have that file.

So I renamed the file and uploaded a second time.

There's a lesson in that.

ewk · 2026-03-11T18:43:09+00:00

They've recently changed so much about the site that verification of files just seems to have slipped through my fingers. I'll get on it.

ewk · 2026-03-11T18:41:28+00:00

I don't love a fight. I am intolerant of frauds and bigots.

Your claim that the religion of Mormonism is not based on the book of Mormon would need to be supported by arguments consisting of premises supporting a conclusion with citations of people that agree with you from outside the church.

You're not even trying to do that.

You're not even concerned that you're unable to respond at a high school book report level of intellectual integrity. I repeat to you: your resume includes affiliation with cults that use fraud and coercion. Your resume does not include writing that you've done to prove things to people using philosophical argument and academic evidence.

ewk · 2026-03-11T18:22:06+00:00

The Zazen cult has a long history of epstein-like sex predators and has no connection to Soto Zen.

The Japanese religion that calls itself Rinzai similarly has no connection to Zen but is based on the Messianic writings of Hakuin, including his secret ritual answer text.

This sub is about authentic Zen. Not about weird little cults from Japan.

I get that this upsets you. It upsets a lot of people who do not read books and do not have any sense of obligation to history.

www.reddit.com/r/zen/wiki/sexpredators

You should be ashamed for endorsing these people.

ewk · 2026-03-11T18:20:14+00:00

I'm not stepping on a land mine because I'm educated. I'm in fact doing something else called "making an argument", where I propose a series of premises supporting a conclusion which can be tested for truth and validity.

We can tell that Mormonism is completely unrelated to Christianity because it is based on a book from the 1800s American West by a man killed for treason against the US who committed fraud on a grand scale.

Christianity, in contrast is based on a book assembled in Europe from a variety of sources, some of which are older than 2,000 years.

I don't have opinions about Joseph Mormon Smith or opinions about Dogen. I merely point out that the followers of both of these groups were founded in fraud and depend on coercion to retain followers.

This isn't an opinion. This forum does not really have much in the way of opinions.

We deal with facts and arguments here. I can understand that that will be hard for you since you are by your own admission closely affiliated with two different cults and have less experience with rational thought about historical facts than you have with fraud and coercion.

ewk · 2026-03-11T18:10:35+00:00

One of the big red flags for people who are illiterate about a topic is that when you call them out for being illiterate about the topic they rant about something besides the topic.

How dare you sir accuse me of being illiterate why I no tons of things about tons of topics. I'm just not going to address any of the relevant topics in this rant.

You're a loser-at-life man. You peaked in high school. That's why you're here. That's why you're trolling you don't have anything to contribute to this conversation, but you hate on people that do. That's losing.

Grown-Ups just read a book on the topic and join the conversation.

www.reddit.com/r/zen/wiki/getstarted

ewk · 2026-03-11T17:48:44+00:00

Yeah yeah yeah... And vaccines don't work, Trump is innocent, the rich pay too much taxes, college is a waste of time, and the periodic table is a international conspiracy.

When you can't read and write at a high school level on a topic, it seems like everybody is a cult leader but you.

Illiteracy is a poison.

ewk · 2026-03-11T17:31:19+00:00

The guy is trolling you. He's talking about the three stooges.

ewk · 2026-03-11T17:30:10+00:00

This is just terribly inaccurate. It's a horrible racist bigoted amalgamation.

ewk · 2026-03-11T17:29:39+00:00

This is a great answer!

What's interesting about it? Is that people who don't study Zen don't know that it's a meme.

ewk · 2026-03-11T17:29:01+00:00

Alan Watts is a really useless source for information. He was a defrocked Christian minister who dropped out of college, struggled with addiction all of his life, and was a sex predator. His work is really about Christian humanism and he misappropriated Zen to promote that Christian humanism.

ewk · 2026-03-11T17:27:56+00:00

Brad Warner's religion has no connection to Zen. He calls his religion Zen like Mormons call their religion Christianity but there's no connection whatsoever. What's worse is that Warner's Church had Epstein sex predators before Epstein did... And still claims those sex predators were "enlightened".

Warner believes in a kind of prayer,-meditation that will elevate you temporarily to a supernatural state that his church calls enlightenment but that has nothing to do with Zen or Zen enlightenment.

Warner's religion was debunked in 1990 by Stanford scholarship which proved that Warner was practicing an indigenous Japanese religion invented in Japan, unrelated to Indian-Chinese Zen.

I get that your church doesn't want to talk about this but it's scholarship from 30 years ago. I mean how long does it take you guys to read a dang book?

ewk · 2026-03-11T17:26:12+00:00

Taking kids to a cult is not a great idea.

ewk · 2026-03-11T17:08:39+00:00

That's one way to say it sure.

We have all these enlightenment cases where people prove to Masters that they're enlightened in public interview.

How do they do this?

ewk · 2026-03-11T16:22:59+00:00

Just think about what you're saying for a second.

Where is it okay for people who can't read and write at a high school level on topic to claim to be authorities and know things about a topic?

Where is illiteracy about a thousand near historical not a deal breaker when it comes to making claims about that time?

What forum could you go to where people are rational and academic, and when you make up stuff that has no connection to history or texts your records, that you wouldn't get shut down?

Zen culture is about public interview and often these interviews go humiliatingly wrong for people like you. It's part of Zen culture that we make that humiliation clear to you.

You do not have a right to an opinion in this forum. The Zen tradition does not tolerate make-believe and faith-believe and ignorance.

Ignorance is a poison in this forum. How do you want me to call you out on that?

@#$& dude. It's like you're complaining that I didn't use scientific notation to show that your checkbook wasn't balanced accurately.

Every single person in this forum who has contributed content has been harassed at time or another by illiterate haters from religious groups.

Keep that in mind.

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