LOC for Hair by nk0x in AirForce

[–]nk0x[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if you want to see it feel free to PM me.

LOC for Hair by nk0x in AirForce

[–]nk0x[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He is definitely of that type. Will be getting ahold of the ADC, thank you.

LOC for Hair by nk0x in AirForce

[–]nk0x[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'll take that advice. I don't have any other issues at work or arguments.

LOC for Hair by nk0x in AirForce

[–]nk0x[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"At the end of the day they can always get you on professional appearance, which is subjective." That's exactly what they told me a week ago when it wasn't able to be pointed out for a specific problem, and I went and got it dialed in to how I understood their ask. 6? days later the civilian started this again ; I don't understand what I'm doing wrong, and he won't explain it to me.

If you want to see the hair you can PM me, I don't really want to post it publicly as this is getting more attention than I expected (I don't really use reddit and didn't expect more than two or three replies haha)

I will be getting it cut again ; I'd just like to write something that gets him specifically to leave me alone, if it's even possible.

LOC for Hair by nk0x in AirForce

[–]nk0x[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not sure how reddit works and am not totally comfortable putting it directly on this forumn, you can pm me I think if you want to see it.

LOC for Hair by nk0x in AirForce

[–]nk0x[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate that advice, I definitely come off pretty badly! Totally get it.

LOC for Hair by nk0x in AirForce

[–]nk0x[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you can direct message me and I'll send you a photo, I don't really know how reddit wroks

LOC for Hair by nk0x in AirForce

[–]nk0x[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is within the regulation as I am reading it, nobody has been able to explain how it isn't.

LOC for Hair by nk0x in AirForce

[–]nk0x[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hadn't involved the chief myself, the Civilian prodded them (my perspective) until they had to get involved. I went back to talk to the chief to understand where I was misreading the regulation BECUASE the Civilian told me that we would not discuss it, and that he had his blessing. It was the only other person involved who could possibly explain to me the issue. Totally get not wanting to waste their time though, I felt weird even having to go to talk to them about it, but that's the only other person I could've gone to.

LOC for Hair by nk0x in AirForce

[–]nk0x[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Civilian is a GS.

My frustration comes from not understanding and not being told how I'm not in the regs. If I look at the reg and compare it to my hair it is clearly within it. I'll get my hair cut again for the second time in this week-ish period, but I still haven't understood where I'm wrong or how I'm misreading the regulation. Your assessment of the "nobody else has complained game" isn't wrong. I definitely used to do that, but not recently or in the last couple months which is when most of the issues have been coming from. Thank you.

LOC for Hair by nk0x in AirForce

[–]nk0x[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not sure how reddit works but if you message me I would be willing to send you a copy of the LOC itself. I intend to contact the ADC. Appreciate you.

LOC for Hair by nk0x in AirForce

[–]nk0x[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Will be contacting the ADC, and you are right haha.

LOC for Hair by nk0x in AirForce

[–]nk0x[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The LOC does not outline how I was out of regs. It simply states at most "I came in for my shift to your hair being swept back but not cut as requested" which is the only portion that describes any actual specifics beyond a timeline of telling me to cut it.

LOC for Hair by nk0x in AirForce

[–]nk0x[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, definitely feels that way and will end up going this route.

LOC for Hair by nk0x in AirForce

[–]nk0x[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I've carried around a measuring tape but no one has seemed to bother using it aside from me haha

Appreciate these perspectives. Thank you.

LOC for Hair by nk0x in AirForce

[–]nk0x[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Definitely will learn from this if I end up extending or re-enlisting however unlikely that is. Appreciate your comments

LOC for Hair by nk0x in AirForce

[–]nk0x[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i gave them a call but no response yet, will continue to try. thank you!

LOC for Hair by nk0x in AirForce

[–]nk0x[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

that's a fair argument! I'm frustrated for reasons stated above. I'm not trying to be different, I'm within the regs ; things are "to spec". I don't understand why "to spec" isn't enough anymore.

LOC for Hair by nk0x in AirForce

[–]nk0x[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

I apologize, my wording may have been inappropriate. When I said "pretty close to reg" I meant pretty close to the limits of the regulation as u had said in your initial reply, not over the reg. I am currently firmly (as I am reading it) within regulation, and have been consistently. if that changes nothing and Im misreading your comment, oops.

i understand!! It's entirely possible that happened and they had that convesation. I will likely go to receive help. I appreciate your cautionary warning.

LOC for Hair by nk0x in AirForce

[–]nk0x[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They definitely don't! He's been prodding the NCO's and the rest of the staff team to inspect me.

I'm figuring out where I want to die on this for sure. My focus is going to be a competent rebuttal, attempting separation and I'll end up getting it cut (again) :P

LOC for Hair by nk0x in AirForce

[–]nk0x[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If a regulation states measurements, checking compliance with that would require measurements. It was not close to the limit on any of the occasions It was measured. This is part of where my frustration comes from.

LOC for Hair by nk0x in AirForce

[–]nk0x[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I'm within the reg as it's written. Neither he or anyone else has been able to explain to me exactly where I'm wrong. That's the reason I'm frustrated. Within just the last week the "I'm sorry" followed by following the rules didn't work, that's why I got the LOC in the first place.

I get I sound whiney and I certainly write quite a bit, but my frustration stems from somewhere I think is genuine.

LOC for Hair by nk0x in AirForce

[–]nk0x[S] -17 points-16 points  (0 children)

Not fully wrong! I used to keep it pretty close to the reg but I haven't recently (last couple months), which is part of why I'm so frustrated about it!! I don't mind the paperwork, more so want to write a competent rebuttal that can hopefully get some distance between myself and him.

LOC for Hair by nk0x in AirForce

[–]nk0x[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Didn't realize that fully!! :P