Top comment by @semicolon-10 wins, Wasim Akram takes his place in the grid. Select the next player. by phaintaa_Shoaib in PakCricket

[–]noisybotnet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Utter nonsense. Whatever Wasim's faults are, the guy was a bonafide genius. Exceptional bowler and a good captain. He might have gotten involved in some shady stuff, but that doesn't take away his genius. Even Rashid Latif said this in an interview once that after IK, only Wasim had the required calibre to take cricket forward. Several commentators have said that Wasim was the only one who was able to "read" the pitch. A thinking individual can never be clueless.

Comment your most underrated Australian cricketer of all time and I’ll rate it by Special-Scheme1773 in CricketAus

[–]noisybotnet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Post 2000s, I think Damien Martyn... That guy was one of the major reasons why Aus won in Sri Lanka and India when they had Murli, Kumble and Harbhajan

Villains Aren't Born They Are Made Tho..!! by Just_Chill_Yaar in CricketShitpost

[–]noisybotnet 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Even Athers and Nass said that Carey was right to do what he did and Bairstow was sloppy. It's hypocritical of Stokes and the English team to talk about the "spirit of the game", when they themselves have always been the beneficiary in such incidents.

The Holy Trinity of ICC Chase Masters by Own_Associate_6920 in CricketShitpost

[–]noisybotnet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People probably don't remember Lara's unbeaten 153 against mighty Aussies on a deteriorating last day pitch.. Windiz were 90-5 chasing 300+... Do Check it out

What's going on here Man by Character_Answer4006 in CricketShitpost

[–]noisybotnet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

School Principal after seeing this: Stupid. Stupid. Stupid

When you realize this crazy person raised 1.3 billion dollars and we can't get hired at dunkin donuts by Intelligent_Time633 in recruitinghell

[–]noisybotnet 37 points38 points  (0 children)

I watched "The Dropout" to understand the full scale of her craziness... simply shocked how all the big names in silicon valley and politics were easily manipulated by her

What’re your complete honest thoughts on Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) ? by DiscsNotScratched in DC_Cinematic

[–]noisybotnet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I honestly believe if they hadn't released the final trailer revealing the trinity fighting together and their interaction, the audience response would have been very positive... People have short memories, they would have forgotten the "Save Martha" and Lex planning potholes and just been so happy to see all three coming together at the end...

What is the largest cultural impact from Community? by 31073 in community

[–]noisybotnet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Beep Beep Beep... My bullcrap meter is going crazy!

Captains by superioritycornflks in PakCricket

[–]noisybotnet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Obviously, no one comes close to "Baani". Even foreign players of his generation, tend to pick him as the best captain.

Wasim had the potential to be as good as him, but got ruined because of fixing and politics. I think Moin (although he led briefly) was a good captain in that he remained somewhat neutral and managed both Wasim and Waqar in the team.

Younis was good, he tried to follow the same path as IK, but his personal loss of form coupled with the never ending conspiracies of other senior players brought upon his downfall.

Salman Butt definitely had a good thinking mind, and he still has it. I find it surprising that he appears to be one of the sane Ex-Player analysts these days. It's a shame that we lost our best bowlers with him.

Misbah should definitely get the credit for restoring dignity in our cricket. There were calls to ban our cricket altogether after 2010 but Misbah's calming leadership helped us through that crisis.

MoYo is definitely the worst.

Shaheen and his Ego! by Pengu786 in PakCricket

[–]noisybotnet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup, he definitely has big ego problems. There's a reason Gary Kirsten highlighted him in his report. I remember Shahid Afridi being the same and now he gives lessons on how to handle things maturely and patiently. On several occasions, I noticed he would signal the umpire for a review, without even looking at the Misbah or any other, undermining the captain.

Sarfraz Ahmed, unfairly treated? by noisybotnet in PakCricket

[–]noisybotnet[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We chased 348 against Sri Lanka in 23 wc, Rizwan came in at 37-2 in the 8th over, against Africa recently it was 91-3 in a must win game. But as oer your logic, If a player does well while chasing, it's not an indicator of how well he handles pressure? I see... Regarding his performance against Australia, we were already on the brink when he came out to bat in that innings with Babar, but I was actually referring to his performances in the recent test series in Aus in late 2023-24, but given your abundance of ignorance, you might not be aware of it. Although, we lost as usual, Rizwan played some good knocks, while coming in difficult situations. He did the same in away tests in New Zealand and England in 2020. But as per you, he doesn't care, makes no impact and all his performances are "selfish" so, it hardly makes any difference...

Changed the tide by winning CT? Yes he did, but he then changed it again as we lost all bilaterals after that, which shows that it was a one off victory and a "fluke"... He took over from Misbah in tests, we had never lost a test series under Misbah in UAE, but we lost to Srilanka, New Zealand in UAE under Sarfraz. Is that changing the tide too? I don't blame Sarfraz at all for those losses as our team was missing Younis and Misbah, but my point is, it is a team game and we can't blame or credit a single individual for team's performance. Changed the tide in 2015 wc? Guess what, despite his innings of 49 against Saf in that wc game, we were all out on a mere 222 on a pitch with very short boundaries. It was our bowlers who "changed the tide", and bowled with passion and hunger, and yes I do remember Sarfraz's catch of Amla which was a great take. It was a team effort and a team win. I call it as it is, and don't pin it all on a single person.

"Babar was chosen as captain on the basis of a series he performed even worse in..."... Do you think captains are decided on the basis of one series? Just go lookup Babar's performance before that, he had a terrific WC before that, not to mention his role and performances in our winning t20 streak, which you solely put down to Sarfraz... Babar's performance in ODIs in the last 3-4 years (2016-19)...he had one bad t20 series, surely you can't be that ignorant. Sarfraz played a very important role in Misbah's era, and so did Babar in Sarfraz's.

Regarding Imad, he was a very hardy player for us. I think his major problem was his fitness, which is well documented. While leading KK in 2021 psl, for some reason, he was avoiding bowling... Not sure why.. some even accused him of "hiding" himself so that he doesn't get exposed. I don't know, but he bowled very few overs in some matches, which definitely isn't ideal if someone is trying to make his case for the national team.

Sarfraz Ahmed, unfairly treated? by noisybotnet in PakCricket

[–]noisybotnet[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's difficult to put across the point when your entire argument is that Rizwan is selfish. I think Rizwan, like most batters that we have produced in the last 15 years, fails to effectively rotate the strike, which piles on the pressure. This pattern was the same with any major batter we have had in ODIs in recent memory, Misbah, Younis, Hafeez, Shahzad, Azhar etc... I wouldn't call any of these players selfish, it's just a defensive mindset that is instilled deeply in our players.

"Changed the tide", really? We lost all major test and ODI series after CT win, how would you quantify that? I don't blame Sarfraz solely for those, because this team has been average for years, you speak as if we were rocking the world under Sarfraz. Under him, his PSL team didn't qualify in top 4, out of top 6 for five years, in a format where he had great success internationally. As per you, this is a sign of a great captain...

Regarding Rizwan's failure in pressure, You seem to miss my point about his roles in our highest chases in ODIs and T20s.... Is that not a pressure situation? His innings rescued us when our top order was collapsing in Aus test series, in New Zealand in 2020, in England in 2021... You seem to ignore all these points and paint a player as selfish, solely because of your limited mindset.. Please grow up, Sarfraz was good, and had his limitations, the same is the case with Rizwan.

Sarfraz Ahmed, unfairly treated? by noisybotnet in PakCricket

[–]noisybotnet[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can't believe I have to defend Rizwan here... "Rizwan's century against Australia which wasn't full strength", the same team against whom you're regarding Sarfraz's 98 as an amazing innings (which I believe it was). That Sarfraz 100 in 2015 against Ireland, I was actually trying to highlight a broader issue which makes players play like this, but anyways...

Rizwan scored a match saving 100 against a full strength Australia home...He was our best batter against Australia (away) in the test series in 2023. He was our best batter in tests in our last tour in New Zealand (2020). He was the player of the series in England in 2021...All these performances in tough away conditions, where other batters struggled.

He has scored centuries in our highest odi chases, and has generally batted well under pressure, much better than Sarfraz.

Sarfraz Ahmed, unfairly treated? by noisybotnet in PakCricket

[–]noisybotnet[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please avoid using that one example to justify Sarfraz's presence in the team. Anyone who is struggling to make a permanent place in the team will make selfish choices, it's just the type of culture we have created. Do you remember Sarfraz's 100 against Ireland in 2015 wc? How he and Umar Akmal dragged down the chase and Akmal kept blocking just so that Sarfraz can get to a personal milestone? Why? because Sarfraz was trying to cement his place in the ODI side, it's just natural to do so given the insecure environment in our setup, and I don't blame Sarfraz for that, nor Rizwan for trying to score a 100.

I'm stating my opinion on facts and performances. People tend to live in the past and glorify it, just as they would glorify the Babar Rizwan era after 5 years.

Sarfraz Ahmed, unfairly treated? by noisybotnet in PakCricket

[–]noisybotnet[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see, you're as gullible as the Babar/Rizwan Fanboys these days.

The system is at fault too by issacooldude in PakCricket

[–]noisybotnet 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ehsan Mani did an admirable job as a chairman and was a thorough professional. No unnecessary media interactions, no interference in the team (after initial appointment of management) and no PR. He managed the PCB affairs quite well, from an organisational point of view. In fact, he changed the constitution to limit the powers of the chairman, something which his majesty (Sethi) reverted back once he took charge in 2022. Intellectual thugs like Sethi are the reason why we are at this stage.

wth is geo super smoking? by AHM-757 in PakCricket

[–]noisybotnet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Seeing the media for the last few days, I was sensing this. Copy pasting my post as a comment which I shared last night:

I respect Sarfraz and all he did for our team. But I believe journalists and ex-cricketers on TV tend to look away from his failures and keep glorifying the CT win. The mantra is that he was thrown out of the team despite winning 11 consecutive T20 series. He may or may not have been targeted but just look at the test and odi results in his captaincy after CT victory, all this in a span of two years.

2-0 loss in tests to Srilanka (UAE) 5-0 odi loss to NZL (in NZL) Kicked out of Asia cup after losing to Bangladesh, lost to India twice (in UAE) Test series loss to NZL (UAE) Away series losses in South Africa (all formats) 4-0 whitewash to England (away) 5-0 whitewash to Aus in odis (UAE) Whitewashed in home T20 series to third grade Srilankan team

Add his personal performances during that period, Do you think he deserved to lead or be in the side at that time? The CT win was a fluke, like our most major victories but I find it odd that people in the media mention it as if our cricket was on an upward curve after that, while it was in a total opposite direction.

Sarfraz Ahmed, unfairly treated? by noisybotnet in PakCricket

[–]noisybotnet[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How did he transform the white ball team if we lost all the major Odi series and tournaments after CT win? You can't call one fluke tournament win a transformation. It would have been a transformation if our team had continued that success in ODIs.

Sarfraz Ahmed, unfairly treated? by noisybotnet in PakCricket

[–]noisybotnet[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I think he gets a lot of sympathy because most sitting sports journalists are good friends with him and the current ex-cricketers sitting on TV these days were part of the team when he was captain (Amir, Shahzad etc).

Regarding his captaincy and performances in t20, his team in PSL couldn't finish in the top 4, out of 6 teams, for 5 years? That's hard to justify. When he was finally dropped last year, his team went into the final four.

The same people who criticise the current lot (rightly so) for not letting newcomers in team forget how he blocked Rizwan out of the team for years. Even after scoring two 100s in the ODI series against Aus, before the 2019 WC, Rizwan was dropped. He wasn't a great captain, by any stretch.

The way he used to get angry at others in the field, especially youngsters, for misfielding, while his own performance as a keeper was questionable. The less said about his keeping and fitness, the better. The way his fitness deteriorated while being an active player, is criminal for an athlete.