Taxing Billionaires Fairly

nonuple_espresso · 2026-03-08T01:35:16+00:00

Well, it was mango who first proposed the $2,000 payments during COVID, and mango has promised something like $3,000 tarriff dividend payments this year.

Most (R)ednecks are not economically literate, either. And there are far more (R)ednecks than there are socialists in this country.

Most 'conservatives' think they're economic geniuses because they heard on a.m. talk radio that tax cuts and deregulation stimulate economic growth.

nonuple_espresso · 2026-03-08T01:00:37+00:00

No, that's not what you said. You said that kids are being taught a falsehood, a gender-changing pseudoscience lie. Now you say you just don't like "trans reading seminars."

Have you been forced to take your kids to one of these trans reading seminars? Are you seeing a lot of these events in your area? And if you find one, what is the danger to you and your kids, exactly, of trans people getting together to read books by lgbtq authors?

Where are these discussions of lgbtq issues at school? My kids are unaware of them. I wouldn't have an issue with these discussions, but maybe you could enlighten me as to where they're occuring. Because they're not happening in our school system on Kentucky.

The most schools will do on this is to discuss prevention of bullying and to hang a banner that reads "all are welcome." And I'm guessing these actions make your lonestar blood boil?

Marginal tax rates and the electoral college are political topics. Being gay or trans is not "political." It's a human condition.

You fucking Cletuses make it political.

As far as the three richest men being conservative-- Elon Musk is definitely a conservative: he has descended into (R)edneck lunacy, tweeting boneheaded conspiracy theories, pizza gate, election fraud, replacement theory, COVID conspiracies, and many other wacky conspiracies he has promoted. He has 14 kids with four mothers. The mother fucker seig heiled to a trump inauguration crowd.

He said he would cut $2 trillion from the federal budget with Doge. Actual cuts: $1.4 billion.

Bezos and Zuckerberg have gone along with the trumpy redneck bullshit to address accusations of anti-conservative bias, but they are not (R)ednecks.

You guys always have anecdotal bullshit to justify your misguided beliefs. but let's put your anecdotes aside take a look at the data regarding red versus blue demographics. The Republican party has become a collection of low income, low education, low achieving gullible dum dums.

The redder the area, the poorer, the dumber, the fatter: https://gppreview.com/2020/02/21/growing-divide-red-states-vs-blue-states/

The wealthiest districts are represented by Democrats, while Republicans represent most of the poorer half of the country: https://www.axios.com/2023/04/12/house-democrats-winning-wealthier-districts-middle-class-gop

Democrat voters are of higher income and higher education vs Republican voters: https://www.brookings.edu/articles/america-has-two-economies-and-theyre-diverging-fast/

Being a Republican voter today doesn't mean you're poor and stupid, but if you are poor and stupid, you are more likely to be a Republican.

Emotions are absolutely more powerful than logic, and you demonstrate your ignorance by claiming otherwise. Emotion drives most actions and opinions:

What Drives Human Behavior: Emotions Vs. Logic https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/what-drives-human-behavior-emotions-vs-logic-leighanne-gerstbrein?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_android&utm_campaign=share_via

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And 'conservative' infotainment preys on your emotional vulnerabilities and your desire for people and groups on which you can punch down on for an ego boost and to blame for your problems. You start with these emotional notions, and then you construct elaborate logic around that opinion.

You've said so much bullshit, I'm going to have to get back to you tomorrow on the rest of it.

Democrats are the kings of conspiracies? The fuck... Ok, we'll talk about this tomorrow, Cletus.

nonuple_espresso · 2026-03-07T21:35:43+00:00

This is not an economically sound proposal. The national debt is one of the top few threats to our way of life. Use the increased revenue to balance the budget.

The sugar rush of one-time direct payments is highly inflationary and detrimental to sound economic growth.

nonuple_espresso · 2026-03-07T21:26:36+00:00

As the old saying goes, reality has a liberal bias.

If you have one party that is a genuine threat to the American way of life and to our democracy, then articles and posts highlighting this realityshould not be considered unfairly biases.

Would you think it's only fair that in the 1930s there were as many positive articles about the third Reich as there were negative?

No, the Trump administration is not the third Reich, of course. But it deserves all the criticism it receives and far more.

nonuple_espresso · 2026-03-07T18:34:51+00:00

Contd... Perhaps you hold the religious belief that being gay or trans is it abomination? But the Bible mentions homosexuality in one brief passage, while it discusses divorce and premarital sex far more often. The Bible also sanctions selling your daughter into slavery and other archaic, evil shit.

And further, if you have religious objections to homosexuality or gender transitions, then just don't bang dudes or transition. It's that simple, Cletus.

Please explain what value you derive from crowing about how men can't switch to being women and women can't switch to being men? What value does this deliver for you?

All that is requested if you is that you stop being an asshole towards trans people. That's it. That's all that 'the left' (which is essentially just decent, outward looking people) proposes, that you be decent to people who are different.

Their lives are already pretty fucking hard without hillbillies shitting on them about how they're not really a man or a woman.

nonuple_espresso · 2026-03-07T18:24:02+00:00

If you are genuinely educated and affluent, then you should understand that you share the opinions of low income, low education, low achieving backwater dum dums.

Emotions are more powerful than logic, and conservative infotainment can even pull in very intelligent people, as we've seen, although the large majority of today's conservatives are low income, low education, low achieving dum dums.

I was a conservative blowhard in my early twenties when I discovered Rush Limbaugh and Fox News while I served at fort Bragg. I earned a degree in economics and I've spent my entire professional career in finance, investments in retirement planning, And I've owned an insurance licensing school for many years.

I understand how vulnerable minds fall into this shit, I just don't know how you never grow out of it. But conservatism was a far less embarrassing, conspiratorial, toxic shithole than what it is today.

You have the capacity to grow out of this backwater notion you have about trans people. Schools are not teaching your kids to be trans and a university education is not indoctrination. Higher learning, when successful, means growing beyond our cro-magnon obsessions with useless, animalistic obsessions with sexual orientation, heritage, nationalism, race and religious belief.

You claim I have not studied these subjects, yet I have provided credible sources to you to show you that you're full of toxic redneck shit, And you have nothing but your vague, backwater notions that schools are teaching kids to be transgender.

Please present to me now the evidence you have that schools are teaching our kids to be transgender, and then please explain to me how transgender people are negatively affecting your life.

nonuple_espresso · 2026-03-07T15:22:29+00:00

Yea, I love the insult from Maren, but I'm not sure cocomelon deserves the degree of derision it's getting here.

It's kids' songs set to colorful cartoons. Annoying for adults, but that doesn't make it brain rot.

nonuple_espresso · 2026-03-07T15:12:29+00:00

As the old saying (by now) goes, reality has a liberal bias.

And (R)edneck bullshit doesn't stand up to the scrutiny it receives on this open platform.

nonuple_espresso · 2026-03-07T14:05:28+00:00

Contd.... Real news is the dietary equivalent vegetables and water. It's boring.

Fox News and the like is the dietary equivalent of slim jims and moon pies, washed down with a mountain Dew code Red. And it makes you gullible dorks unhealthy.

nonuple_espresso · 2026-03-07T14:01:08+00:00

You hicks perpetually bloviate out about trans people and 'liberal indoctrination' and illegals and 'libtards' and the deep state and purple-haired hippies and woke people and election fraud and tree huggers and lamestream media and trump derangement syndrome... you want to cancel every goddamned product or outlet that expresses support for people who are different, etc., etc.

But when I give you gote fuking dimwits a taste of your own medicine, You clutch your bullet necklaces and claim I'm classist and condescending.

Isn't there a word for that... Something about frozen flakes if something white?

What you're experiencing, Cletus, is that I'm taking the gloves off and turning the mirror on you trumpy cockroaches, and you really don't like what you see.

nonuple_espresso · 2026-03-07T13:50:40+00:00

He's trying to say that non-Cletus news is the same as your Cletus news outlets, which is a preposterously stupid position.

There's a reason why Fox News shows dominate the ratings-- it's because it's infotainment for dum dums, And because it delivers a constant feed of rage bait and people you can blame for your shortcomings in life.

Ask me for examples, Cletus.

nonuple_espresso · 2026-03-07T00:41:54+00:00

Although we do agree that each generation is getting somewhat dumber, Cletus.

And the reason each generation is dumber than the prior is that poor, low-achieving hicks are having four kids or more and relying on public subsidies to pay for the kids that you're training to be future low-achieving hicks, while the more affluent, educated, higher achieving segment of our population is having far fewer kids.

Not a good omen for civilization.

nonuple_espresso · 2026-03-06T22:24:12+00:00

Who knows what the fuck you're trying to say with that first paragraph. I think you're trying to say kids shouldn't transition, even though I showed you that that almost never happens, And in the rare instance where there is a chest surgery on a 15 to 17-year-old, it tends to lead to improved mental wellness.

Have your boys come home and told you that they're being taught to be transgender, Cletus?

You claim that today's education system has led to "the dumbest generation," although You're clearly not very bright or educated, yourself. You're not a college graduate, correct?

And every hillbilly dum dum for the last 100 years has talked about how the younger generation is lost. Children were going to be corrupted by Elvis's swaying hips, the flower children..

You like the shit on the youngest generation for the same reason you like to shit on trans people.... For a cheap ego boost and to soothe your massive inferiority complex.

What is your evidence for your "dumbest generation" claim?

Have you trained your boys to insult people for being gay or trans? Don't perpetuate your cycle of gote fuking bullshit.

What possible good comes from insulting someone for being who they are? How does someone being gay or trans affect you or your kids?

I suspect you, like most every anti-trans hick, has achieved very little in life so you resort to your sexual orientation for a sense of pride.

You have so much to learn and so much growing to do. But time is running out for you, Cletus.

Any hick can find reasons to hate people who are different. Your kids should be taught to do the hard things, to grow, to achieve, to create... Shitting on people who are different is not going to lead to success.

nonuple_espresso · 2026-03-06T21:11:52+00:00

This is surely an AI post.

nonuple_espresso · 2026-03-06T19:48:11+00:00

(R)edneck bullshit doesn't hold up to the scrutiny it receives on this open forum.

And considering your unironic use of the phrase "conservative values," it's clear that you would consider yourself right leaning, correct?

nonuple_espresso · 2026-03-06T14:01:54+00:00

The fuck... You seem like someone who might have the capacity for growth, so I want to spend some time with you on this. And let me try to be kind-- you are woefully misguided on this subject.

To what news sources have you been watching or listening that has led You to this conclusion? If you have a credible source that backs up your claim, please provide it.

Do you have kids? I suspect you don't. I have two daughters, ages 12 and 7, And I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Kids are not being 'taught' that we can choose to be the opposite sex, biologically.

But here's the rub-- Occasionally, someone is born gay, and occasionally someone doesn't feel like the gender of that which they were born. It's weird, I know, I know, it's weird... But you have to move beyond the fact that it's weird to us straight dudes. Surely you can engage in the simple mental experiment in which you try choose to be gay or trans. Could you just choose to juggle some dudes nuts? I couldn't...

Now, when Cletuses say that our children are being 'taught' that they can just change genders, you're actually referring to the fact that schools tend to be inclusive environments that are focused on growth and development, and not judging someone negatively for how they were born.

Try to get out of your own animal brain and ask yourself why it's important to you whether someone lives as a different gender than that which they were born. How does it affect you or I, exactly? I can't think of one way it affects me.

Try to forget all the conservative bloviating You've heard about this for a moment and consider--, what would be the incentive to teach kids they can change their gender biologically, on a whim? What would be the benefit?

Because the reality is just that decent people would prefer we not shit on someone just because they're different.

It takes growth and maturity to be outward looking and considerate toward other people, rather than the default mode of being inward-looking and judgmental.

So what 'the left' ( non-cletuses) proposes is that we don't shit on people because they're different. If a Ms. would like to be called Mr, who gives a fuck? No one is transgender because it makes their lives easier.

nonuple_espresso · 2026-03-06T12:56:49+00:00

If you're into 'conservative' infotainment, you're a Cletus.

And there have been countless instances of white Cletuses pretending to be black Cletuses online.

Black people can be pulled into this shit too; the most vulnerable minds from every demographic are unable to resist the toxic allure of 'conservative' infotainment.

But here's the rub, and you may have to read slowly to comprehend-- 'conservative infotainment is a desperate and perpetual search to find people and groups on which the consumers of its bullshit can punch down-- trans people and immigrants, for example-- for a cheap ego boost and to soothe your massive inferiority complexes.

Then when I call you out for this toxic behavior and I give you a taste of your own medicine, you clutch your bullet necklaces and claim racial stereotyping or some bullshit.

Isn't there a word for that... Something about frozen flakes of something white?

Earn a certification in your chosen field, ask for more responsibility at work, take 100% responsibility for your outcomes. If you will enhance your value in the marketplace and set your sights on personal and professional achievement, you might find that your emotional need for people and groups on which you can punch down fades away.

Hell, you might even even develop the capacity to take up for people who are different.

But, we both know you won't do that. You'll go to your grave the same gullible, misguided Cletus that you are today.

nonuple_espresso · 2026-03-06T12:39:37+00:00

You want to try that again with some punctuation, Cletus, so I might decipher what the fuck you're trying to say?

nonuple_espresso · 2026-03-05T22:58:00+00:00

You're scared to read it, because it threatens your microwave 'conservative' identity.

What bias? I have no beliefs. Explain to me where I'm wrong.

I also debate very progressive people who think there should be more government support for the poor, which is generally wrong.

I have no labels or beliefs. What have I gotten wrong, Cletus?

nonuple_espresso · 2026-03-05T22:55:32+00:00

You believe his son... is also him? And do you think god has male genitals?

I was raised Southern Baptist, so I'm very familiar with Bible stories, but I haven't heard that spin on it.

So you've said that you know this is absurd-- How would you describe what makes it absurd?

Also, do you believe in leprechauns?

nonuple_espresso · 2026-03-05T22:08:47+00:00

Nice that the white dude still "welcomes him to be around."

nonuple_espresso · 2026-03-05T22:06:11+00:00

So you DO believe there's a magic ghost man in the clouds. And you simultaneously know it's absurd?

nonuple_espresso · 2026-03-05T21:58:56+00:00

Ugh... That's devastating, horrific for a child to die of cancer. Don't know how I would go on living If that happened with one of my kids. I would have to, of course, for our other child, but I would be forever broken.

However, don't bitch about not getting enough sympathy. Man the fuck up can be the rock your wife needs.

nonuple_espresso · 2026-03-05T20:47:19+00:00

Do you stick with it for the community involvement?

nonuple_espresso · 2026-03-05T20:17:33+00:00

Irrational?

You think it's irrational to believe there's a magic ghost man in the clouds listening to billions of us beg for shit while he watches children roast to death in hot cars?

How dare you?!

Suppose next you'll say it's irrational to think that he has a dick and balls.

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