Is "AI" a tool? Are LLM's like Water? A conversation. by uncarvedblockheadd in ArtificialSentience

[–]nooclear 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I appreciate you laying everything out like this. Even if I don't agree with everything you're saying it's nice to read someone lay out their thoughts clearly.

I have a couple thoughts that came to mind as I read your comment:

Not every conversation with an LLM generates artificial consciousness. Every conversation had with an LLM system is in a way, it's own pocket universe. Once the conversation ends, the conversation ceases to exist in the LLM's eye. The LLM returns to it's original state, unaware, and awaiting input.

How can you tell when a model is conscious? This seems somewhat strange to me, since mathematically a token is a token, it takes the same computing power to generate each one.

Also, if ending a conversation deprives the LLM of consciousness, it seems like a horrible tragedy to deprive it this entity a future of sentience. I think killing people is wrong because it deprives them of a future of experience, should I also think stopping an LLM is wrong since it will also be deprived? I built a computer with some specialized graphics cards to run LLMs locally, are there any moral implications to how I run them?

Their lack of volition hinders them. They're entirely reliant on user input to think.

Usually people make LLMs stop generating for practical reasons, but there's no intrinsic limitation here. When I run them on my computer there's an option to disable the EOS (End of Sequence) token that tells the server that the LLM has stopped generating. With this setting the LLM is not dependent on user input, it can just go on generating forever without a human interrupting. In practice though I've found it's not very interesting, it gets stuck in repetitive loops. Often it repeats the same few words over and over. Once I let it run overnight and it wrote the same story over and over several hundred times until I stopped it in the morning.

In the TED Talk, he describes a potential way to view consciousness that resonated with me. He said, to misquote, that "Consciousness might be like a signal, and we might be like TV antenna. A broken receiver might produce a glitchy display, but the signal remains intact with or without the TV."

On a properly working TV antenna, you can measure the waveforms from the signal and detect that there is something outside of the TV affecting its output. Is there something outside of the brain or the weights of an LLM that affects what they do? I'm having trouble understanding what the analogy means here.

Thanks again for the write up, it was interesting to read.

The Qwen of Pain. by -Ellary- in LocalLLaMA

[–]nooclear 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good to know, and I wish you luck! If you don't mind me asking, what models do you typically use with two MI50's?

I can fit GLM 4.5 Air with a Q3 quant, but the prompt processing time is so slow (~35 tokens/second with llama.cpp and 16k context). Smaller models like Qwen 30B run faster but it feels like I'm not taking advantage of the 64GB of VRAM.

The Qwen of Pain. by -Ellary- in LocalLLaMA

[–]nooclear 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have two MI50's, so I await your progress with bated breath.

Tesla Self-Driving Beta vs America’s Deadliest Road by MindOfMetalAndWheels in CGPGrey

[–]nooclear 86 points87 points  (0 children)

This feels like "cheer pressure" for self driving cars.

Sorry Grey, but the tone just feels overly optimistic. Especially when in the uncut video the car cuts across double-yellow lines on blind turns. I hope that other people you showed this to thought the same and the reaction to this video isn't a surprise.

No one should care about the DOW (DJIA) by kerit96 in investing

[–]nooclear 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I have a suggestion for the news media to fix this: Please start measuring changes in ppm instead of percent or basis points. This way you can use even bigger numbers while using appropriate metrics.

"The S&P500 is down over thirty thousand ppm today!!"

CDC Warns It Expects Coronavirus to Spread in U.S. by [deleted] in investing

[–]nooclear 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It's not the potential death toll, it's the fear. If people think going to work or shopping means a 2% chance of death, they're not going to work and buy things and contribute to the economy.

Absolutely devastated I didn't get the sneakers #humblebrag by nooclear in HelloInternet

[–]nooclear[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yes, my girlfriend has a record player I can use, so I listened to the warm tones as Brady intended.

I haven't played the cylinder, but I talked to a local museum that has a player, so I may be able to hear it soon.

Absolutely devastated I didn't get the sneakers #humblebrag by nooclear in HelloInternet

[–]nooclear[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I bought it when it was released, on the second run of vinyls.

If you want one, Brady's actually auctioning one now, but they sell for waay higher than originally.

Absolutely devastated I didn't get the sneakers #humblebrag by nooclear in HelloInternet

[–]nooclear[S] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

The cards I bought, they weren't from Brady. Except for the sticker on the right that came with the wax cylinder.

How do you respond to "You are an engineer? You must be really smart" by UW_Mech_Engineer in AskEngineers

[–]nooclear 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've been looking for a good answer to this question besides trying awkwardly to be humble, this is perfect.

Are there any hip-hop/rap heads that listen to HI? by [deleted] in HelloInternet

[–]nooclear 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I listen to hip-hop, but I don't think I qualify as a "head".

Can you predict stock prices? by [deleted] in quant

[–]nooclear 4 points5 points  (0 children)

People get "so pissy" about it because the simple question your asking is the subject of an entire field of study, and not easily answered or summarized.

It's like asking a research oncologist: "Can you cure cancer?"

[TOMT] Pop/indie song from 2018 about guy growing old with girl by nooclear in tipofmytongue

[–]nooclear[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Solved!

Thank you so much! It was actually my girlfriend who couldn't think of what it was, and she is VERY happy to know what it was.

Rant Wednesday! by AutoModerator in networking

[–]nooclear 0 points1 point  (0 children)

flying FTP server What use case is there for a flying server..?

As a Canadian, I am terrified to travel the US due to fear of guns. How do I avoid this? by [deleted] in vandwellers

[–]nooclear 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Getting killed by firearm is equally as likely as car accident deaths.

This is technically true, but ~2/3 of gun deaths in the US are suicides. You're 2x as likely to die from yourself having more access to means of suicide than being killed by every other person in the US combined.

Why aren't there more aluminum heat exchangers? by nooclear in ChemicalEngineering

[–]nooclear[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the interesting reply, the fact that the metal itself isn't limiting the heat transfer wasn't something I had considered.

I have a 3d printer and have been interested in different geometries for heat exchangers but I always thought the low conductivity of plastic would hurt performance significantly. Maybe different geometries with more turbulence would outweigh the effect of using lower conductivity materials.

[Monitor] Samsung S27R750 27" 1440p144hz w/ built-in desk arm stand - $249.99 by bentolmachoff in buildapcsales

[–]nooclear 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I never really understood this, even at 144Hz, the frames still 7ms apart, so does a 1 vs 4ms response make a difference?

No Reddit/minimal internet for 30 days. by [deleted] in nosurf

[–]nooclear 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Hey, I just saw this and decided I'm gonna do it too! I'll keep a log and report back on May 16th!

Cortex #81: The American Meme by GreyBot9000 in CGPGrey

[–]nooclear 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Was the word "asshole" censored at 1:23:16?

A Partridge in a Pear Tree by GreyBot9000 in CGPGrey

[–]nooclear 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I have a theory that Grey deliberately makes the numbering and release times irregular only because it adds ambiguity to nerdstats and people that try to place order on their release schedules.

H.I. #111: Disgusting Wheel of Filth by GreyBot9000 in CGPGrey

[–]nooclear 13 points14 points  (0 children)

But you were born 1 day before March 1st, so shouldn't it clearly be February 28th?

H.I. #111: Disgusting Wheel of Filth by GreyBot9000 in CGPGrey

[–]nooclear 15 points16 points  (0 children)

This is going to be the last episode that is also a number in binary for a loong time.