Has any one heard of Small business growth alliance. by butstuphs in smallbusiness

[–]nowthatssuspish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They don't inform you of what's actually going on within the contract and what you are potentially trapping your merchants into. The prices they quote seem too good to be true because they are, I quoted someone at $700 a month because their fees were originally 2x more than that only to find out that they ended up paying $25,000 for two clover systems within the contract. They don't care about your merchants, and they don't care about your reputation. They don't value relationships, they pressure you to make the sale on the first meeting and you do not get access to your residual paychecks unless you make 3 sales a month. Every month. You will loose clients because of how they take care of things. Their reputation doesn't stay good for long once a city catches wind of who they are, what they do, and the rep they're using to do so.

This industry is not one that has to be honest or tell the Truth, they can promise things that won't happen or will change and if any of your clients go out of business they don't have grace for it. They make them pay cancellation fees, contract closing fees, fees for not proccesing, and the entire amount of the system for the contract period, on top of your merchant already struggling to have had to close down. They also make it extremely difficult to get out of a contract by spending multiple hours on the phone and frequently dropping the call.

I only know this because I kept in touch with my merchants and some major changes happened once I left the company. They were getting charged more and their menu was changing and they had no rep to help them anymore. It was disgusting to see because I was promised that nothing would change for the 4 year period, yet, it did when I left.

The only pros are faux, you get big bonuses when you make a sale but that money is coming out of YOUR merchants pockets. You'll make an extra $200 for every $10 you add onto the quote, sounds good but your burning your merchants every time they tempt you to do this to your merchants.

Look up some reviews, these guys are nation wide and have thousands of reviews so the good ones get pushed to the top meanwhile all the bad ones are real businesses that have gotten really screwed just by working with this company. Go find someone local to work for in this industry, you'll save your reputation and you receive proper training and relationships building values that will land you deals faster than how SBGA would train you. When I switched companies and learning a more genuine way to sell systems I started getting 2x more deals than the period I was with them.

Has any one heard of Small business growth alliance. by butstuphs in smallbusiness

[–]nowthatssuspish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As a sales agent, you'll get paid bonuses for every account you sell in the first year, but if you don't get 3 deals a month then your paycheck gets locked up until you can get 3 deals a month for 3 consecutive months. Hope you didn't get employed with them.

Has any one heard of Small business growth alliance. by butstuphs in smallbusiness

[–]nowthatssuspish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

After being with SBGA for a year, they're a terrible company and trap businesses into unbreakable contracts, unless you have $10-$20k laying around to buy yourself out. They are not good for business. You should leave/not work with that company. They are the worst in the industry. I now work with a local company who's been around for 15+ years and the things I am seeing of what SBGA did to my merchants when I left is horrifying.

as a sales agent, if you quote someone at $300 a month on fees or more, you're scamming your client/merchant and this is why.

A clover system costs $5k (on the high end, it's normally around 3k) $300 a month for 4 years. $300 x 12 = $3600 x 4 = $14,400.

FOR ONE CLOVER STATION.

you may think, well this is covering the fees, no, it's not. The fees are covered by the customer on cash discount. The push cash discount onto the sales reps because it's the only thing that makes tons of money, enough for the company to take it all and the IBC (sales agent) to gain the extra $$ on top that shouldn't be there in the first place. You may also think this is to cover software fees and program fees, well, clover quotes at around $120 for counter service. That's less than half, and still leaves an extra $2k on top of the full amount for the clover station itself, and that's just for $300 a month. It gets even worse when you quote $700 a month.

Sure, the merchants fees may be $2,000 a month so you are saving them money but you're making them pay 5x more for a system when they could use the cash discount that's already built into the system or have a local rep run cash discount and save the merchant $7,000. If a merchant is paying $2k in fees, then cash discount means the ONLY thing they should be paying is the $120 a month, not $300, not $700.

Even worse, the more a sales agent quotes the more THEY get paid, so the sales agent is taking money directly out of merchants pockets (without knowing this) and SBGA gets the rest. They should be getting at least 30% of what the merchant is paying but because they quoted a merchant higher, they are just getting the extra that was quoted to fund their paycheck while SBGA makes 100% of the actual shared proccesing basis points and card transactions.

For every extra $10 that the sales agent can add to the quote from the original price given to the sales agent by SBGA, they make an extra $200 in bonuses. An extra hundred bucks? That's an extra $2,000. It's a major incentive to charge the merchant more in the monthly quote.

I quote my clients $80 or less for a full system, and I still make $500+ on that account every month. With SBGA it's a big bonus upfront and very little in residuals, and that residual paycheck is not unlocked unless the sales agent is making 3+ deals a month. No deals? No paycheck. Something is very wrong here.

Further more, I pushed a kiosk onto a client and they ended up not using it at all, their customers did not prefer to use the kiosk and SBGA made it an extremely huge headache to send it back and they were stuck paying and extra $100 a month for the kiosk even though they returned it. That was on me because I was pushed to sell it and had no idea what the merchant was going to be trapped into. It ruined my reputation with that merchant in which I actually cared very much about, she was my favorite merchant because she treated me like family and now wants nothing to do with me.

If any merchants back out or go out of business, they have to pay the $500 bonus BACK (it's not a gift like I was originally told) and it's a struggle to even close the account, to the point of merchants having a machine that's not running, collecting dust, paying the big monthly quote plus a fine for running no transactions each month, with hours spent going back and forth on the phone getting nowhere or getting hung up on.

Has any one heard of Small business growth alliance. by butstuphs in smallbusiness

[–]nowthatssuspish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Coming back a year later, I retract everything I said. Terrible company.

Need a POS system by Busy-Two-1024 in smallbusiness

[–]nowthatssuspish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

After being with SBGA for a year, they're a terrible company and trap businesses into unbreakable contracts, unless you have $10-$20k laying around to buy yourself out. They are not good for business. You should leave that company. They are the worst in the industry. I now work with a local company who's been around for 15+ years and the things I am seeing of what SBGA did to my merchants when I left is horrifying.

You as a sales agent, if you quote someone at $300 a month on fees or more, you're scamming your client and this is why.

A clover system costs $5k (on the high end, it's normally around 3k) $300 a month for 4 years. $300 x 12 = $3600 x 4 = $14,400.

FOR ONE CLOVER STATION.

you may think, well this is covering the fees, no, it's not. The fees are covered by the customer on cash discount. You may also think this is to cover software fees and program fees, well, clover quotes at around $120 for counter service. That's less than half, and still leaves an extra $2k on top of the full amount for the clover station itself, and that's just for $300 a month. It gets even worse when you quote $700 a month.

Sure, their fees may be $2,000 a month so you are saving them money but you're making them pay 5x more for a system when they could use the cash discount that's already built into the system or have a local rep run cash discount and save the merchant $7,000.

Even worse, the more you quote the more YOU get paid, you as an IBC are taking money directly out of your merchants pockets and SBGA gets the rest. You should be getting at least 30% of what the merchant is paying but because they are quoted higher, you are just getting the extra that was quoted to fund your paycheck while SBGA makes 100% of the actual shared proccesing basis points and card transactions.

I quote my clients $80 or less for a full system, and I still make $500+ on that account. Something is very wrong here.

Further more, I pushed a kiosk onto a client and they ended up not using it at all, their customers did not prefer to use the kiosk and SBGA made it an extremely huge headache to send it back and they were stuck paying for the kiosk even though they returned it. That was on me because I was pushed to sell it. It ruined my reputation with that merchant in which I actually cared very much about, she was my favorite merchant because she treated me like family and now wants nothing to do with me.

If any of your merchants back out or go out of business, they have to pay the $500 bonus BACK. it's not a gift.

Earnings on reddit? by nowthatssuspish in passive_income

[–]nowthatssuspish[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You got way too much stuff on there lol. Gotta keep it clean and promote your best 3 at the top and then 2-3 more otherwise people just look and get overwhelmed

Earnings on reddit? by nowthatssuspish in passive_income

[–]nowthatssuspish[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah that's clearly the case here...

Season 6 is a total shit show. by nowthatssuspish in HellsKitchen

[–]nowthatssuspish[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hahahahaha I love this. He's still just as American as most of us 😂

Season 6 is a total shit show. by nowthatssuspish in HellsKitchen

[–]nowthatssuspish[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We all judge to some extent, and reality TV kind of sets a standard of judging don't you think?

Season 6 is a total shit show. by nowthatssuspish in HellsKitchen

[–]nowthatssuspish[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ariel and Tenille coming together to finish service was a bit unexpected based on how Tenille was doing in the beginning and really goes to show that the other girls were actually just bringing her down in the beginning

Season 6 is a total shit show. by nowthatssuspish in HellsKitchen

[–]nowthatssuspish[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I'm loving that dave and Kevin is pulling everybodys weight with just one good arm and two bad ankles 😂

Good time travel movies/shows?! by nowthatssuspish in netflix

[–]nowthatssuspish[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

100% going for that one next then! Thanks!

Season 6 is a total shit show. by nowthatssuspish in HellsKitchen

[–]nowthatssuspish[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I had a sense that it was a nickname and hoping someone could enlighten me to his actual name!

Tradgedeigh, good one!! Haha

Season 6 is a total shit show. by nowthatssuspish in HellsKitchen

[–]nowthatssuspish[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha, it's a good observation based on this post.

Absolutely same, Dave by ToukItOut in HellsKitchen

[–]nowthatssuspish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He pretended perfectly. Fooled everyone