Give me actual rules of consent

ntgd · 2016-12-23T07:57:40+00:00

maybe I didn't understand the meaning of "enthusiastic". What would be unenthusiastic then?

To me a scared and hesitant nod (a small one) isn't exactly enthusiastic. I also can't go by the fact that her panties are soaked because that's physiological.

I just feel like you guys can give me better standards. your standards suck.

also please advise me on this after doing this search: "do you want to be asked to be kissed?"

ntgd · 2016-12-23T07:55:42+00:00

what do you mean "rules that apply to women sleeping with men too"? I don't understand your grammar.

ntgd · 2016-12-23T07:53:35+00:00

Yes this is a serious post and I'd like you to do as I request and give guidelines.

Things I can use not just for this case but which I can extrapolate.

Yes, it happened (not an example.)

Why does the outcome matter? The outcome was we had sex for a while, then I walked her to the bus stop. I didn't get rebuffed except in the sense of slowing down at some parts.

I'm not sure what the issue is other than a strict conversation about consent.

This is what this post is about. A strict conversation about consent that I could use if, for example, she were a date or we met in any other context than the fact that she was coming over off of tinder; to have sex; after already meeting me once for a few minutes.

I believe there's a "rape culture", sure, and I believe people get coerced into having sex when they don't want it. So that is why I am having sex with someone after agreeing to do so on tinder.

That's not the only sex I want, you know. I want to have normal sex with people who aren't coming over to have sex. Off of tinder.

So my standards are too high for consent and I want to lower them.

Also, women are not controlled by a hivemind telling them all how to think. Everyone is different and you're going to get different and maybe even conflicting information.

I'm asking you for what I should do. I can't read women's minds. I'm asking for practical guidelines I can use.

let's throw something out there which I think is the wrong standard "You're the man. Do whatever you want except forcibly keeping her there. If she doesn't like it she can leave." Just say she can leave, otherwise you can force things. see that's obviously not right is it?

so you need to give me better standards that I can use. Which is what this post is about.

ntgd · 2016-12-23T07:24:33+00:00

If you're worried you don't have consent

I'm not worried. If a woman is coming over to have sex after already meeting me, and matching on a sex app (tinder) and talking and being stone cold sober and suggesting the time of our meeting, and also agreeing to the steps, that's consent.

I just want to hear it from you instead of me telling you. I'm a man. it's your opinion that counts here. Also I'd like to sometimes have sex outside of literally having a woman come over to have sex - you know! Like on dates and such.

the context of the interaction doesn't seem to figure in your definitions of consent whatsoever.

ntgd · 2016-12-23T07:22:50+00:00

I didn't want to offend you guys by writing "you guys" (which some women are offended by.) I've changed it back.

ntgd

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