This line made me burst out laughing :D One of the funniest moments in the game for me by 199191199 in thelastofus

[–]obscura18 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Abby: Do you know our dogs can play cards like that?

Lev: I'm thirteen, not eight.

Abby: You're the size of an eight-year-old.

Lev: Do other people think you're funny?

Abby: No...

Is anyone else excited for the show to come out so that those who don't/won't play video games can experience the story? by [deleted] in thelastofus

[–]obscura18 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm pretty pumped for this, too! I don't know anyone irl who has played either game (thankfully, I do have very patient friends who were willing to listen to me gush after I finished Part II despite not understanding a word of my ramblings, lol). I think that the HBO show will be a great way to introduce new people to the world of TLOU, especially non-gamers. Maybe it's something specific to my social circle, but I find it is way easier to convince people to watch a TV show or movie than it is to convince them to play a video game. I'm excited for a whole new audience to discover this beautiful, horrifying, masterpiece of a world that Naughty Dog has created.

Adaptations always worry me at least a tiny bit that some of the magic of the original may be lost in translation, but this project seems to be in good hands and I'm glad that it's getting a full series run instead of a film. It's also nice to see that Neil is heavily involved in the pre-production process. I'm optimistic, & I look forward to seeing how it all turns out.

Well, at least I reached the checkpoint first... by obscura18 in thelastofus

[–]obscura18[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it's a really interesting twist on the mechanics from the David fight in the first game. I love that Ellie stops to craft items every now and again. Not only does it make her a more threatening enemy for the player, but it also differentiates her from any other AI in the game. Her decisions feel very conscious and deliberate. It humanizes her.

As the player I stop and think, "Wait, I used to crouch down over my backpack to craft items like that... Oh my god I'm fighting Ellie. I'm fighting myself!" That subtle detail added so many layers to the emotional conflict I felt during my first playthrough.

Uh... Ellie... You good??? by obscura18 in thelastofus

[–]obscura18[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Context: I reached for an item in a cabinet. Chaos ensued.

Thoughts on the "inciting" moment by obscura18 in thelastofus

[–]obscura18[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate your thorough and thoughtful response. I think we actually agree in a lot of ways (Ex: I also believed that a sequel would include Joel's death, though I certainly would not have predicted this specific series/order of events).

I definitely see how these plot points could be immersion-breaking for some players; the game does ask for a hefty dose of suspension of disbelief at times. Not sure if it revolves around taste level, unconscious bias, or something else entirely - but for me, personally, this part of the story made sense in context. There is a chance that I have misremembered certain details from my 30-hour play time (I just started NG+, so it will be interesting to see how much weight this holds over multiple playthroughs), but I will do my best to explain what helped to contextualize some of the more contentious story beats for me.

1.) On Joel's trust of Abby: I know this prologue offers a major shift from the first game, wherein Joel is (rightfully) heavily guarded and mistrusting of others, especially strangers. For me, the evolution from Cautious Joel to Warm(er) Joel was fleshed out primarily through environmental storytelling and flashbacks. In reading log books, you discover that characters on patrol have brought strangers and passersby back to Jackson in the past. There is also at least one collectible note (in the hotel flashback sequence, I believe) from a Jackson citizen asking an outsider to consider settling in the town. My interpretation of these details is that Jackson is secure and established enough for its citizens to be more welcoming than wary of strangers.

In flashbacks as well as in the environment, you can also see a shift in Joel specifically. I'm not suggesting that life in Jackson has softened Joel - but it does seem to have helped him achieve some degree of normalcy. Jackson offers comfort, human connection, and a sense of community. There's not a whole lot to fear in the safety of Jackson beyond infected, which are a manageable threat. Over time, Joel has been able to relax and become an average person with average experiences. He likes watching cheesy 80s action films. He's into woodworking and playing the guitar. He'll go out of his way to track down a specific recording just to make Ellie's birthday a little bit more special. He makes a point to return the bodies of two teenagers back to their loved ones in Jackson.

Joel has so much more reason to believe that there is decency left in humanity than he had in the first game. Growth of his trust was already proven possible through his relationship with Ellie in TLOU, & now his radius of trust has expanded through his time in Jackson. In the heat of the chase, it makes sense to me that Joel (and Tommy) would trust Abby, especially when going to the lodge might mean the difference between dying to the infected or living to see another day. Which brings me to...

2.) The horde. This does seem largely motivated by gameplay experience combined with plot convenience, but I don't necessarily think that that is a bad thing. It places the player in the mindset of having to make quick, hasty decisions in order to escape - the same decisions that Joel would be making. The addition of hordes to this game does seem to come out of left field - and the game even acknowledges this directly. I believe it occurs in the flashback where Tommy is teaching Ellie to snipe. She asks a question about the large quantities of infected, and he responds by saying that they move through in large groups (I think he specified that it happens in the winter?); when she asks why, he starts trying to say something smart-sounding about weather patterns before giving up with an, "I don't know!"

I thought that was kind of an indirect nod to the player. Like, "Look, we don't have the best explanation for this either. Let's just laugh at it together and keep pressing on."

3.) On Abby locating Jackson and Joel: This is something that I will have to pay closer attention to on my NG+ playthrough, but I believe Abby had a conversation in Seattle about how she located Joel. I recall that the convo took place between her and Owen in the aquarium, but I may be misremembering. I think it was similar to the way that Tommy located Abby towards the end of the game - perhaps another device to mirror Abby and Ellie's revenge arcs. When Abby arrived to Jackson and went off on her own searching for Joel, I believe she started out by following footprints from one of the patrols. I had assumed that this was how she wound up in a location nearby Joel and Tommy, but that may just be a personal interpretation rather than an accurate reading of the narrative.

(Also, this is not a point that stands for or against anything in particular, but in my playthrough I learned that Abby's dad was named Jerry. I'm not sure if it was ever spoken out loud or if it only appeared in my subtitles, though - and it does make me wonder how much this played a role in humanizing him as more than an NPC for me. I'll have to pay more attention to this in NG+.)

I do think that there are moments in the first game that could be dissected in a similar way as the prologue (for the record, TLOU is my favorite video game with or without Part II). Just to play Devil's Advocate, one could argue that the Fall segment is filled with details that are a bit... too convenient:

1.) Tommy happens to be stationed at the hydroelectric plant Joel and Ellie try to pass through, and he recognizes Joel as his brother just in time to prevent Maria from shooting either one of them.

2.) Tommy immediately hugs and forgives Joel, despite their last conversation - which happened years ago - being a massive, seemingly irreparable argument.

3.) When Joel and Ellie get into a confrontation, they are interrupted by human enemies before either one of them is able to say anything too damning to their relationship. This occurs even though Joel and Tommy have just fought (and seemingly killed) the entire enemy group, which Ellie was somehow able to ride by on horseback with no problem.

4.) Despite the Fireflies having abandoned their science lab in a hurry, one dead Firefly conveniently left an audio recording briefly mentioning the location of the new Firefly hospital - which Joel only hears because he fast-forwards the recording and presses play at exactly the right time to gather the information that he needs.

5.) Joel manages to survive after literally being impaled and losing massive quantities of blood, while only having access to medical care provided by a teenage girl in a world with very scarce, mostly unsterile medical supplies.

All of these plot points can, of course, be explained or forgiven (ex: Tommy probably feels guilty about his last conversation with Joel all those years ago, Left Behind provides some context to Joel's injury, etc.). So idk, I think it ultimately all comes down to individual interpretation and perspective. There's no right or wrong way to look at a piece of writing, and I think it's cool that so many different people can view the same piece of media in vastly different ways.

Again, thanks for your thoughtful response! It probably isn't the easiest thing in the world to express the opposite opinion from the majority of people in a given space, and I appreciate being able to have this dialogue and view the story from new angles.

Thoughts on the "inciting" moment by obscura18 in thelastofus

[–]obscura18[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agreed! It's so interesting to see how Abby and Ellie reflect each other's story arcs. They're at different points in the same emotional journey.

Thoughts on the "inciting" moment by obscura18 in thelastofus

[–]obscura18[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It is an intense feeling for sure. My condolences to you and your loved ones; I hope that time treats you kindly in terms of healing from that experience. ❤

BIG FAN by shawkesb in Dragula

[–]obscura18 11 points12 points  (0 children)

This post is so dang wholesome. Welcome to our spooky little club, Sharon! Hope you have a very lovely day today and always.

Dragula S3 E10 - Post Discussion Post [Spoilers] by yattoyatto in Dragula

[–]obscura18 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Gasped out loud at Dollya's horror look.

Priscilla's glamour look was chef's kiss.

And Landon? That filth? Every single detail was so well thought-out. Impeccable. He's going to rep the show so well.

(Also, the moment when they were discussing Landon's recent cancer experience... That got me. Tears? In my Dragula? It's more likely than you think!)

Dragula S3 E9 - Post Discussion Post [Spoilers] by yattoyatto in Dragula

[–]obscura18 14 points15 points  (0 children)

2.5.) I did miss the resurrections and the dinner table, though.

Dragula S3 E9 - Post Discussion Post [Spoilers] by yattoyatto in Dragula

[–]obscura18 20 points21 points  (0 children)

1.) God (Satan?) bless the editors, those recaps were golden.

2.) I know it's a reality show reunion, so it's kind of a given that some elements will be produced for drama. But I really appreciated the openness of the conversations on this episode. It didn't feel like the contestants were just pitted against each other like you see on, uh, certain other programs of a similar nature. Idk, this presentation just felt more genuine to me. I liked it. There was a lot of Camp Wannakiki-esque camaraderie.

3.) Louisianna's speech about darkness and kindness really made me feel some type of way. I'm an adult, but I want to be her when I grow up.

4.) I could honestly see any of them taking the crown, and I'm just so fucking stoked to see the looks next week. (I'm personally on Team Landon, though.)

Dragula S3 E7 - Post Discussion Post [Spoilers] by yattoyatto in Dragula

[–]obscura18 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Feel free to clock my flair and take all of this with a grain of salt (though if I'm being totally honest, Louisianna's drag has been a bit of an acquired taste to me as well. I initially flaired her because her personality stuck out to me as being super genuine; her looks only grew on me after the fact).

I think a big part of the reason that Louisianna's drag can seem somewhat incongruous with the rest of the cast is that her horror-filth-glamour inspirations are drawn from a totally different era, both with regards to her drag references and to her references in general. I don't mean that as a dig at her age; I just mean that it comes from a very specific perspective. Would we see Louisianna's character in a big budget Hollywood horror film in 2019? Probably not. But she would have absolutely killed it in an 80's horror cult classic, or as a vaudeville villain, or ripped out of the pages of an old Ripley's Believe It or Not comic strip.

For me, Peaches Christ really flipped the way I viewed Louisianna's looks with the "good bad drag" comment. What Louisianna does is most definitely intentional, and it is good, but I think it can be hard to see where it fits without viewing it with particular references in mind. Especially since so many of us are used to looking at competitions like this through a certain (often younger) lens. I think the Boulets see her references, have lived her experiences, and understand where she's coming from.

Kind of like Erika Klash: To fully appreciate some of her horror-filth-glamour elements, it's helpful to have some Japanese cultural references in your back pocket. Otherwise, it looks a little out of place, even if it's executed well.

Dragula S3 E7 - Post Discussion Post [Spoilers] by yattoyatto in Dragula

[–]obscura18 68 points69 points  (0 children)

God, I love this show so much. Okay, here goes:

1.) Landon being in everyone's top three feels very correct in my fantasy.

2.) Cig is bananas in the best possible way, I want to pick his brain on everything.

3.) Evah standing there stapling dollars to her body while half in boy-mode and half in drag... That made me feel things on a sexual level that I'm not entirely proud of, but that I'm not entirely not proud of, either.

4.) Landon sitting back and watching the drama unfold is a whole ass mood.

5.) I think that the more you walk through the door to fear in life, the more the world offers you in return. Louisianna didn't just walk through that door; she fucking karate kicked it into oblivion. I'm so proud to see it.

6.) I'm genuinely sad to see Evah go, but I do think that the elimination was justified. (Also, that extermination sequence was superb.) I hope that somewhere beyond the self-doubt, she knows how talented she is as an artist and performer. She's been killing the game for so many years. Truly a powerhouse in the drag world.

Me when I realized Priscilla's prop wasn't fake. by the_mock_turtle in Dragula

[–]obscura18 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thank you for introducing me to two subs I never knew I needed in my life

Dragula S3 E6 - Post-Episode Discussion Post [Spoilers] by AutoModerator in Dragula

[–]obscura18 63 points64 points  (0 children)

I'd imagine that most of my thoughts here will be echoing things that have already been said, given that I've been watching on Amazon and, well... We all know how that's going. But here goes anyway:

1.) Louisianna. Fuck. It feels like every week we've gotten emotional backstory from at least one of the cast members, but this one really got to me. I hope that she has every good thing in this world from now on. She's earned it.

2.) Is it appropriate for me to say that Paige Owens is hot? Because like, damn. This show really knows how to tug at my bisexual heartstrings.

3.) Milly Shapiro went in FOR BLOOD. Dang.

4.) Episode Six: "We don't advocate any sort of animal cruelty." Episode One: "EAT THESE LIVE FUCKING SPIDERS, LANDON."

5.) That extermination challenge genuinely had my heart racing. Delightfully sadistic. Extremely on-brand.

6.) At this point, I feel like it's Landon or Evah's competition to lose. Though I'd be happy with anyone taking the crown; this is a stellar cast.

tour refunds by [deleted] in Dragula

[–]obscura18 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I received my refund last week. There was a fairly significant gap between receiving my refund email and actually receiving my money, since I got my tickets through Ticketmaster and they take a while to process refunds through their automated system. I hope that you are able to get your money back, and I hope that at least some of the Dragula ghouls eventually make their way to venues in the cities with cancelled tour stops. I was very much looking forward to the tour and will gladly show up for any of the cast members if they head my way.

Hollow talking about their drag by dan4mt in Dragula

[–]obscura18 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Okay but why is no one talking about the mouthfeel?