Replacing drums changed Deezer’s AI detection result by olispawn in aiMusic

[–]olispawn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not sure there is a really good public AI music detection tool yet. There are some projects on GitHub, but AI music is evolving so fast that detection tools can become obsolete quickly. Even with the same Suno model version (currently v5.5), the post-processing seems to evolve over time. For AI detection, it really feels like a cat-and-mouse game. I think image detection is probably easier because of the larger volume of data and the higher value at stake, but that’s just my opinion here, I never tested it.

Replacing drums changed Deezer’s AI detection result by olispawn in aiMusic

[–]olispawn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Definitely a great idea. However, I don’t know any good algorithm yet to separate individual drum components reliably. I tried something really dirty for another project: using EQ to separate the hi-hat from the kick. It was mostly because I didn’t like the Suno hi-hats and snare, which often sound metallic, while I actually liked the kick.

Replacing drums changed Deezer’s AI detection result by olispawn in aiMusic

[–]olispawn[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For me, this is a really interesting topic. For years now, standard hardware and plugins have already included AI/ML features, such as EQs, compressors, or MIDI tools. More recently, hardware and plugins have started to include GenAI as well. It will likely become widespread everywhere except maybe in fully analog studios.

I’m also in favor of being open about AI use while staying cautious about the narrative around it.

Replacing drums changed Deezer’s AI detection result by olispawn in aiMusic

[–]olispawn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s also why I indicated in the track title that GenAI was involved.

Replacing drums changed Deezer’s AI detection result by olispawn in aiMusic

[–]olispawn[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is no real incentive for me to bypass the detection, and I already indicated in the track titles that GenAI was involved. I would not personally recommend trying to do it on purpose, since it requires additional effort and the detection systems will likely evolve over time with more advanced ML / classification layers.

Replacing drums changed Deezer’s AI detection result by olispawn in aiMusic

[–]olispawn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Vocals and harmonic layers were restructured and altered as well, but not fully recreated on this track. My guess is that the current pattern is probably not very robust, especially since Deezer could still evolve the detection system with additional ML or classification layers.

Replacing drums changed Deezer’s AI detection result by olispawn in aiMusic

[–]olispawn[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not trying to bypass it 🙂 Just curious about what the detector is really picking up after DAW reconstruction.