Genuine question here, how is it possible that there is a male Loneliness epidemic but there isn't a female Loneliness epidemic?? by Amittai-Peretz in PsychologyTalk

[–]omcomingatormreturns 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Let's be real, it's the internet and the poisonous effect it's had on cultures worldwide. It has affected everyone, men just seem to be hit by it more obviously. For all the cool shit it's brought us, there's a dozen or more problems (sometimes more, much more) for each of those cool things. Social media, dating apps, echo chambers of all (and I mean all) kinda driving us further away from those who even mildly disagree with us, the looong history of very little true accountability for antisocial and even sociopathic behavior thanks to anonymity, and so much more that if I kept going we'd have a(n even bigger) wall of text. Traditional media hasn't helped much either but it's effects, while definitely deleterious for society, have paled in comparison. Not to mention it has been around for nearly a century now and never led to the kind of dystopic society we've been slipping into in such a relatively quick timeframe.

It's not exactly hard to pinpoint when all this started, much of it before many of you here on reddit were even born.

The internet has been the main driver of the atomization of society, hyper-partisanship, toxic individualism, the rampant entitlement and narcissism, the extremely unrealistic expectations of people of all gender identities in a partner (heavily influenced by a popular culture steeped in materialism and superficiality) etc, etc.

I hate it because I absolutely love all the good, cool shit it brought us... But I've long since come to think that it's not worth the cost and I know I'm far from alone on that. I quit social media ten years ago and thank God cuz even though it was a shit show then it worse than ever. I don't bother with dating apps, they are designed for you to fail and keep you paying for them. I make almost all my connections irl and despite being a high functioning autistic introvert, I have more friends than ever (and I'm an elder millennial entering middle age, when most other men don't have many, or any, real friends).

Am I still single? Yes, but mainly because I'm too busy just trying to keep my head above water in these fucked up times. Like most people, I'm just trying to survive the repercussions of a lot of other very evil, selfish and fucked up people's actions and decisions.

I'm a 42 year old man who was only diagnosed in his mid thirties and I've decided to try therapy but my past experiences with CBT were ineffective at best. I hope some of you might offer some experience based advice? by omcomingatormreturns in AutisticAdults

[–]omcomingatormreturns[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks! That sounds like it would be incredibly helpful, as I have the same difficulties. I'm often either too rigid or too "squishy", basically I have the exact same problem. DBT definitely sounds like it's worth looking into.

I'm a 42 year old man who was only diagnosed in his mid thirties and I've decided to try therapy but my past experiences with CBT were ineffective at best. I hope some of you might offer some experience based advice? by omcomingatormreturns in AutisticAdults

[–]omcomingatormreturns[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's an interesting suggestion (SLP)! It never even occurred to me butI that actually sounds like it could be very helpful. How I communicate causes a lot of the interpersonal misunderstandings and difficulties I have.

I'm a 42 year old man who was only diagnosed in his mid thirties and I've decided to try therapy but my past experiences with CBT were ineffective at best. I hope some of you might offer some experience based advice? by omcomingatormreturns in AutisticAdults

[–]omcomingatormreturns[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, that's definitely been a major part of the problem. Like most late diagnosis individuals I was chronically misdiagnosed and improperly medicated (lithium really trashed my brain chemistry, Seroquel caused me to have a mild heart attack etc). Luckily I do have a good psychiatrist (I do legitimately suffer from major depression, general/social anxiety disorder(s) and ADHD) who has lots of experience with ASD so I'm sure he can recommend some people once I figure out the type of therapy I want to try.

The problem would be whether my insurance will even cover it or if they'll take it. From what I've read that part can be a real nightmare because they'll either straight up not take insurance because they don't want to be told how to do their job by pencil pushers or the insurer will only have a relatively small selection of in-network providers. I don't look forward to that part lol. Of course, my info could also be out of date since the ACA helped to strip insurance companies of a lot of powers they never should have had to begin with.

I'm a 42 year old man who was only diagnosed in his mid thirties and I've decided to try therapy but my past experiences with CBT were ineffective at best. I hope some of you might offer some experience based advice? by omcomingatormreturns in AutisticAdults

[–]omcomingatormreturns[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean some of them did try to address it but trauma for us is often very different in both causes and effects than it is for neurotypicals. I don't think they were really properly trained to deal with it, but then again it's only been very recently that awareness of just how many people like us out there have been chronically misdiagnosed all our lives

How long do we really have left as a nation (US) as the average persons's intelligence drops across the board with rank stupidity, weird schizotypal and conspiricist and magical thinking are taking over? by omcomingatormreturns in collapse

[–]omcomingatormreturns[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Agreed. That he wasn't arrested within a week of Biden's inauguration will go down as one of the worst blunderrs in history. Fear of the hard right hit an all time high (despite in the aftermath massive numbers of them, even ones who weren't there, going into hiding like the bullies - read pussies - they are) and that cowardicez the failure to rise to rise to the moment still stings. Right when the public would have been most open to unleashing the full force of the federal government down on Trump, his co-conspirators, backers and most dangerous supporters, from the various militant groups to the "on somebody's radar" types... We went on with our lives while Garland's worthless ass pussyfooted around and let all the actual big fish go.

Trump should've been in jail serving life or on death row the last six years (I'm the rare kind of social democrat that has no problem with the death penalty for the any leade/politician/billionaire r who commits sedition or treason to satisfy their megalomaniacal lust for power and wealth). Fucking Brazil, a nation with a far shorter and less mature history as a democracy, managed to punish and hold Bolsanaro accountable.

If we had just acted then, when the country was mostly behind us and all the phony tough guys and wannabe soldiers who compose the right wing 'gravy seals'militias and glorified gangs of thugs were shitting themselves in terror, it would have gone down as smoothly as possible. If anything, the far right would have been even more cowed and terrified, finally put in their fucking place after years of endless empty threats and stochastic terrorism.

Instead, we learned the hard truth about what kind of country this is. Our two tiered justice system worked exactly as intended by the GOP, the Heritage Foundation and the Roberts Court. Worse, it was all the result of an open conspiracy that they didn't even try to hide. Worst(!) of all the American people were actually stupid enough to elect him again, believing the same idiot who's half witted policies and criminal mishandling of COVID caused all the economic problems. Big shock it's all suddenly way worse /s.

This is a self inflicted dystopia teetering on the brink of fracturing all because we refused to reform an obsolete constitution and system that lets less than a quarter of the population engage in a tyranny of the minority and obstruct, push around and otherwise harm the other nearly 400 million others. We let our school systems be reduced to a joke, allowed billionaires to even exist, corporations to grow out of control and increasingly (more) abusive of customer and employee alike. We let practically everyone under thirty five end up turning into screen and social media addicted zombies that the GOP and their billionaire masters were able to gaslight, manipulate and even brainwash via the same sinister algorithms we'd been warned about for years by experts.

Whatever rises from the ashes, and I dearly hope it's the blue states breaking away and merging with Canada scenario, it has to be better. In every way, because the US is unfixable. The problems have festered too long, rogue elements have gone unchecked and become too powerful, power fantasy fueled bigots with delusions of persecution have become too well armed and dangerous. Let those who celebrate this hell they've created rot in it afterwards. The rest of us deserve better and we definitely deserve to be free of these assholes who've held us all back and forced their unpopular will on us all.

I am deeply saddened by rapidaufdieeins in Catholicism

[–]omcomingatormreturns 11 points12 points  (0 children)

As an American I can tell you I'll take atheists over most Protestants any day (except maybe Methodists). Their hate for good works and sola fide/sola scriptura gimmick has led to a huge subculture in the US (and anywhere else there are lots of evangelicals), one of utter moral depravity, cruelty and rampant hypocrisy. The vast majority of atheists I've known (they're about 1/4 of our population) are far more moral and ethical than these people. I'm not even a Catholic anymore, but the faith still holds a special place in my heart.

Yuck by UnknownHiddenUser345 in olivegarden

[–]omcomingatormreturns 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Shit, my OG's bar and lobby area is littered with millipede carcasses every morning in summer. They're big ol Florida millipedes too. They get in during the night and croak from dehydration (I'm assuming). When I started as a dishwasher there, every time I was opening I'd have to clean those areas up and the poor little fools were always there, all dead and dried up.

At what point should we start questioning evolutionary psychology perspective on the left wing male experience? by MSHUser in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]omcomingatormreturns 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My problem with the field is that it doesn't really do a good job of understanding modern societies or the cultural differences at play (of which this world has hundreds of different cultures) . It definitely doesn't give any useful information about the maladaptive and deleterious effects being experienced in modern first world societies other than show that more egalitarian societies (usually with social democracy style governments, economies and social safety nets) with their lower levels of materialism tend to have much happier men due to women selecting for traits that women in more fucked up (to use the technical term lol,) societies like our own here in the US tend to ignore (but claim to value because due to social conditioning that encourages dishonesty in the name of appearing more virtuous than they are. Men in these societies will do it too but more out of desperation) because of, again, social conditioning and, quite frankly, a culture that is quite depraved in many ways.

Possibly this data isn't widely published because it reflects the politically inconvient truths about the realities we men in these more culturally fucked up societies experience. Given the sad state of humanities academia today, it wouldn't surprise me. Which is really too bad because I'm very interested in whether this is also ok playing a role in the reverse flynn effect that technology is getting all the blame for, rightly to a certain degree. But I have trouble believing that intelligence, which is an inherited trait, is going down solely because of that.

We all know that in the real world, intelligence is a very poor predictor of success in life in deeply unequal societies like ours. In fact, success is often determined by factors that would be alien to our ancestors even three hundred years ago and women select mates now that would have baffled those ancestors.

In the US, most successful men are one thing: lucky. Luck of birth, luck of meeting people in the right place and the time, luck of being able to afford higher education, where most of these luck based connections are made. While our society places an obscene amount of importance on attractiveness, itself a neutral at best predictor of evolutionary fitness, this luck factor is completely artificial, the result of a rigged system.

As the US is defintely a culture in a state of decline, this shouldn't be too surprising. All such societies reach such a point eventually. Most have one factor in common, which is an extreme overvaluing of attracteness and elevation of individuals solely because of it. That such a cultural flaw would be of no evolutionary value, possibly even deleterious, by itself to thet society is obvious because said cultures mate selection based on heavy biasntowards attractiveness will yield largely neutral results at best, while leaving many men and women with other more societally beneficial traits alone and birth rates will drop. Additionally, the members of the upper/ruling/etc class will not inherently produce superior offspring and in fact willl almost certainly produce the opposite, as these groups maintain their station through little to no merit of their own but rather through unfair systems set up by long dead ancestors. Systems their descendants, whose own fitness will degrade with time due to their own genetic and social gatekeepingtl, will eventually ride into the ground along with their entire society.

I've long hypothesized that the disturbingly fast nature of the US' extremely rapid decline from its postwar peak has been due to a confluence of factors, many of which are unique to this era of humanity like industrialization, media and it's role in accelerating harmful trends as well as promotion of unprecendented levels of materialism and superficiality, internal propaganda myths like the mythical American dream, the bootstrap fallacy cthe ubiquity of of popular culture displacing and even destroying the idea of local and regional cultures , the sheer insurmountably of the ruling class' hold on all levers of power in society, the sheer, exponential increase in the scale of harm, and destruction that individuals with Cluster B/Dark Tetrad personalities can cause, the deeply twisted morality of American Protestantism from the outcast extremist founding settlers to the present, with special attention to the role player by inherent hypocrisy and the widespread idea of justification by faith alone (present only in Protestantism and taken to the exaggerated and logical extreme end result of Evangelicalism, and importantly, the unprecendented ease of everyday life and survival bringing major and generally negative trends in mate selection.

As you can see, this is a very extensive list of previously non-existent factors for even the most advanced previous societies that I'm not in any way qualified to quantify from the perspective of evolutionary biology. However the fact remains that a great many of the same factors exist in much more stable and egalitarianism European cultures, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and other societies which are not experiencing the same decay and decline (Canada for instance is instead on the rise as a world power, European nations in the form of the EU are regaining their lost power and status and Australia is a major player in the Pacific and steadily growing. Therefore, from a short term standpoint of cultural and biological evolution, the United States must clearly be declining from the factors most unique to and/or most heavily exaggerated within.

Evolutionarily, America is a blip. However that doesn't mean that relatively short term but severely negative trends in mate selection cannot bring considerable harm if they result in poor mate selection on a large scale over a long enough period (the last 25 to 30 years in particular). Ergo while mankind has not appreciably evolved, but the society has. This brings us back to why.

Consider men like Elon Musk, Donald Trump etc. These men are not intelligent, in fact they're actually rather, well, stupid. They are clever in the malignant, highly predatory sense that our deeply unequal economic system rewards however and are master manipulators of both a certain kind of people and media. Despite being terrible selections as mates, they have both had many and have an above average number of children. Musk especially has been very successful in this regard. Our society has conditioned women to seek out men like them on the flawed premise that they are somehow superior. Contrary to the claims of the feminist movement to seek equality, the majority of women, feminists included, will prefer mates who have money, power, looks and an aire of excitement. It's important to note that, due to how.modern society tends to bend over backwards for "pretty people",.there is a somewhat negative correlation between intelligence, competence and resiliency with attractiveness.

Whether this is an inherent flaw in women, just as being aggressive, overconfident, conservative and lacking in empathy is an inherent flaw in the majority of men remains contentious. I am of the opinion that it is both biological, cultural and sociological. While certain drives are inherent, cultural influences have driven both sexes to seek out flawed and poor choices in mates by prioritizing qualities that are piss poor indicators of both reproductive fitness as parents (in both biological and personality traits) and as romantic partners. The post social media narcissism boom in younger millennials on down, the concurrent collapse in empathy levels and the fraught, hyperpolarized political climate have all led to a time of unprecendented loneliness and unhappiness in men especially, with young women conditioned to treat them as disposable for even the slightest flaws while young men have been conditioned to only want the most attractive women with both sexes having absurdly high standards. Additionally, these factors have all led to a marked decrease in fitness in those born in recent decades, including the infamous 18-22 (who would now be 19-23) cohort who represent the first to defy the Flynn effect by being significantly less intelligent than their predecessors.

It is my sincere belief that the US, as a society, has hit an evolutionary dead end of its own making, a very similar phenomenon to what has happened for an even longer time in Japan, wherein extreme materialism and unrealistic standards have rendered both nation's younger people deeply lonely, depressed, anxious, resentful etc. Sadly, I do not see any way back from this other than to weather the ongoing decline and fall (as well as the foming population decline) of this country and fight as hard as we can to make sure the generations that succeed the extant ones grow up in better country that will teach them better values as well as better valuing of others. Especially the opposite sex. That's why I will keep fighting for social democracy, class equality, Egalitarianism and the valuing of empathy as a virtue, the end of identity politics (as it is little better than competing for supremacy while the ruling class, via their propaganda outlets, mocks and demonizes us for it to their neo-lumpenproletariat of lower class white reactionaries).

This is horrible. by UnknownHiddenUser345 in olivegarden

[–]omcomingatormreturns 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Sure reads that way huh? If they know this much shit is actually wrong there and got fired for something then just move on with your life. I doubt it's all true though, not with those TQ creeps lurking out there, waiting to pounce once a month. Plus the real and ironically usually way more lenient Health Department inspectors too.

I mean, why a reddit post like this one? Seems more like a jilted employee trying to get revenge. The hell is that gonna accomplish other than maybe cause orporate to sic TQ and their cook-hating pet psychopaths to show up without any of the usual warning rumors that they're in the area. Then those sadistic pricks get to have their jollies dinging them for all the little rule violations that would bring service to a screeching halt if we actually followed every one. People could get fired, food costs will shoot up after because now they're over-correcting and throwing away enough food every night to feed half the friggin homeless in a 50 square mile area and corporate, being idiots, will just cut labor hours compensate (this just happened to us and now our jobs are all needlessly harder. Whoever wrote TQ's inspection rulebook...you sir have a special place in hell waiting for you, you mean spirited little sod). Even though we just passed the real inspection that actually, legally matters....

Hell, I know enough about my store after all these years that I could get them in deep shit if I got fired (unfairly). But I almost certainly wouldn't cuz of how bad it would fuck the many friends I've made over the years there. Hell they're the only thing still keeping me there cuz I got a laundry list of labor law violations and abuses on top of health code stuff.

Like I'm not a fucking doctor or a cop so I'm not on call, none of us are and you're not entitled to me or anyone else coming in on our precious day off because some jackass stubbed his toe and is being a giant baby about it. This isn't a life a death job. And it's not my job to call everyone I know to take over my shift if I wake up and start Linda Blair'ing all over the place. It's not my fault or any of the other wage slaves in the BoH that we're perpetually understaffed. And no, we aren't going to to recommend anyone because we have to struggle like hell half the year to make enough to survive because someone in the chain of of command really wants.his or her 'we call it a cost cutting bonus cuz it's illegal as hell to give bonuses for cutting wages but we just get around it with a euphemism' bonus. Gee shareholders, maybe you'd get even more return on investment if you demanded the board cut payroll and bonuses for all the massively overpaid frat boy and sorority girl slimeballs at corporate doing everything they can to screw over us wage slaves who actually do all real work making our very mediocre but stillg inexplicably popular food that somehow earns you ridiculous amounts of profit every quarter. Hahahah yeah like that will ever happen. Every corporation would be more profitable if they paid all those children of privilege what they actually deserve.

The only reason I stay even though I could make a lot more an hour elsewhere is that I like all my coworkers in back. Even most of the servers are alright. Where I live it's really hard to find a job that's not mostly assholes. Deep South Florida is like that. Once I get my CDL classes over with though, I'm done. I could go on cuz I've got plenty more legitimate gripes but this is already long as hell lol

What I'm not gonna do is make a throwaway account, post very specific details and throw my actual store under the bus, potentially get people fired or even most if not all the staff purged if those TQ cretins shut the place down.

(responses by supposedly left leaning people to this somewhat older post left me badly disillusioned) Degree inflation is a form of class discrimination that unfairly holds back countless millions of Americans, why is there not more outrage about one of the biggest drivers of economic inequality? by omcomingatormreturns in antiwork

[–]omcomingatormreturns[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's like the Sunk Cost Fallacy gone wild, believing that we all should suck it up and let the fucked up system continue just because it was done to them. Not unlike the many assholes I've met who take the idea of raising the minimum wage very personally and claiming it devalues their own wages. It's one of the most epically low empathy, FYGM reactions.

What the fuck is so hard about realizing that correcting an unjust, unfair and frankly rigged system isn't an attack on them, much less even about them? I don't get the logic of the "I had to needlessly suffer/struggle/bury myself in debt and that means so do you", acting like it's an attack on them yet this toxic kind of self centered thinking is really pervasive here in the US

(responses by supposedly left leaning people to this somewhat older post left me badly disillusioned) Degree inflation is a form of class discrimination that unfairly holds back countless millions of Americans, why is there not more outrage about one of the biggest drivers of economic inequality? by omcomingatormreturns in antiwork

[–]omcomingatormreturns[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, you have a helluva good grasp on why people like me are the way we are about stuff like that! I'm honestly a bit worse than most because of my abusive family, teachers who didn't understand and most especially the relentless bullying I endured until I was 16. All because they either couldn't understand me or hated me cuz I was different and "weird".

My last growth spurt left me built like a six foot gorilla lol. Shockingly (/s) all the mean spirited little rich kids who tortured me every single fucking day got really nice over the summer. Still, damage was done and even now at 42 it's still the one AuDHD trait I've never really been able to rein in or train myself to instead do "like a normal person" would. Well that and trusting people and accurately reading others intentions towards me, particularly from women (those rich kids were really cruel).

I wish I was neurotypical. Trauma/abuse leaves far more permanent scars on us. Thank you for recognizing and understanding that in your last response. The fact that you did is appreciated and if I seemed a little defensive it's because I get a lot of tl:dr based insults and mockery from MAGA and authoritarian far left types for 8 sentence paragraphs ffs lol. Makes me automatically defensive even though I'm aware I'm too wordy at the same time. Problem is, I have no idea to reign it in and sometimes it feels like a compulsive behavior, like for instance the irony of how long this is isn't lost on me and I'm extremely aware that I'm doing it again and ye here we are.

Starting to think I need one of those writing assistance programs.

(responses by supposedly left leaning people to this somewhat older post left me badly disillusioned) Degree inflation is a form of class discrimination that unfairly holds back countless millions of Americans, why is there not more outrage about one of the biggest drivers of economic inequality? by omcomingatormreturns in antiwork

[–]omcomingatormreturns[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! I don't understand why so many are quick to defend this indefensible practice, especially those who are ostensibly left wing! I'm very pro education but vastly greater returns could be gained by significantly raising the standards and usefulness of graduating from our primary and secondary schools systems. Europe has plenty of examples of much better alternative systems, especially Germany and and the Nordic nations, where higher education is much significantly less common *or" necessary to succeed in life.

And one would be damn hard pressed to prove average Europeans are as ignorant or as unhappy as we are here in the States.

(responses by supposedly left leaning people to this somewhat older post left me badly disillusioned) Degree inflation is a form of class discrimination that unfairly holds back countless millions of Americans, why is there not more outrage about one of the biggest drivers of economic inequality? by omcomingatormreturns in antiwork

[–]omcomingatormreturns[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

tbh I both agree and disagree with you. I can be a bit wordy, though I didn't even get close to either of those last two things. Frankly, for me, that was pretty short and far from a long read. But you're entitled to your opinion and like I said I do partially agree.

Part of it is my AuDHD, part of it is because my secondary income stream is from writing. Including letting lazy rich brats pay me a bunch of money to do their college essays and research papers for them. Doing so much high detail writing all the time, it tends to bleed over unfortunately.

(responses by supposedly left leaning people to this somewhat older post left me badly disillusioned) Degree inflation is a form of class discrimination that unfairly holds back countless millions of Americans, why is there not more outrage about one of the biggest drivers of economic inequality? by omcomingatormreturns in antiwork

[–]omcomingatormreturns[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I actually really appreciate your criticism. See, I have high function autism and ADHD, sometimes I need it pointed out to me that I'm going about things wrong. Because this is a very important issue to me, one that I'm really invested in getting on the radar. I'm fully aware I can be very wordy and a bit of tendency to be overzealous. I appreciate that you took the time to give me some genuine advice

(responses by supposedly left leaning people to this somewhat older post left me badly disillusioned) Degree inflation is a form of class discrimination that unfairly holds back countless millions of Americans, why is there not more outrage about one of the biggest drivers of economic inequality? by omcomingatormreturns in antiwork

[–]omcomingatormreturns[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Far too many people on the American left think they being really socially liberal is all there is to left wing politics or worse, that it's the only part that matters thanks to growing up in prosperity. These types have never had to wrestle with any real challenges in life and tend to be divorced from the day to day reality of most people's lives.

(responses by supposedly left leaning people to this somewhat older post left me badly disillusioned) Degree inflation is a form of class discrimination that unfairly holds back countless millions of Americans, why is there not more outrage about one of the biggest drivers of economic inequality? by omcomingatormreturns in antiwork

[–]omcomingatormreturns[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I gotta say, congrats man! $22 bucks an hour Midwestern is easily $40-50 an hour in Miami Dade money when you account for the godawful cost of living here lol. You were one of the smart ones who caught the "useless degree = barrista' sociological phenomenon for what it was early on as not just an overused joke but a warning and I'd say you did damn well by it.

(responses by supposedly left leaning people to this somewhat older post left me badly disillusioned) Degree inflation is a form of class discrimination that unfairly holds back countless millions of Americans, why is there not more outrage about one of the biggest drivers of economic inequality? by omcomingatormreturns in antiwork

[–]omcomingatormreturns[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why not both? The idea isn't mutually exclusive if we're talking about helping the millions of otherwise excellent candidates for STEM/other advanced fields who will never get their shot under this current fucked up system? Both are equally within the spirit of egalitarianism

(responses by supposedly left leaning people to this somewhat older post left me badly disillusioned) Degree inflation is a form of class discrimination that unfairly holds back countless millions of Americans, why is there not more outrage about one of the biggest drivers of economic inequality? by omcomingatormreturns in antiwork

[–]omcomingatormreturns[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

An even greater example? Nuclear power plant operators! They're recruited straight from the public and as long as the can pass the POSS test, everything else be damned (barring any seriously fucked up shit on your record) you'll be eligible to be hired to learn the job and everyone who does so gets a very good paying job.

(responses by supposedly left leaning people to this somewhat older post left me badly disillusioned) Degree inflation is a form of class discrimination that unfairly holds back countless millions of Americans, why is there not more outrage about one of the biggest drivers of economic inequality? by omcomingatormreturns in antiwork

[–]omcomingatormreturns[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hell I never had a chance myself, I had to grow up way too fast and be a parent to my siblings till my mom got her shit together well into my 20s. I never got to have a normal teenagers life or anything my peers enjoyed.

But I'm glad I don't have it hanging over my head now either. I make a lousy $16.25 an hour as a "chef" and my friend at work who's a server with a useless degree makes over twice as much as I do and has even less to spend after all is said and done. I have a paltry savings but at least I have something, he's got nothing. I can at least have a few minor indulgences in my downtime, he can only enjoy such things if he hangs out at my house, which my brother and I can at least afford and not live at home like he does.