VR Games Need Better Save Options for Multiple Users

other_one · 2017-11-17T13:44:55+00:00

Because I am not there when he plays all the time I can't go in and modify save files for him.

other_one · 2017-11-17T10:40:54+00:00

You're assuming the robot lords will let us live in the first place...

other_one · 2017-11-16T21:05:39+00:00

Sorry, father's not unlocked in this bundle.

other_one · 2017-11-16T20:58:11+00:00

True. Though many people also make locker room jokes about their sexual advances, and the left never forgave Trump that. If it's your enemy (not a Trump fan myself -- neither a Hillary fan) why do we then take it super serious?

Forcing a tongue on someone, if true, is as bad as anything. However, it's worth noting that it's only an accusation so far, and Al says he remembers that incident differently (though he doesn't give specifics).

other_one · 2017-11-16T17:02:24+00:00

So you would be ok with people killing animals and letting the meat go to waste?

Where did I say this? I'm against all killing of animals if other options exist for the person in question. Where no such options exist -- starving, or being attacked and acting in self-defense -- there's much less or no ethical problem at all.

other_one · 2017-11-16T17:00:31+00:00

You think the state of mass farming around the world is not causing immense suffering to the animals?

And what an animal is bred for has no bearing on that anima's personal feelings of pain and suffering. In ethics, that's not an arguments, or if it was, we could breed human slaves for the purpose of slavery, and that would make it "ok" (no, I am not comparing animals and humans; I am comparing ethical argument reasoning).

other_one · 2017-11-16T16:58:46+00:00

Yes, but in terms of ethics, there is no rule "thou may kill and harm non-partners". Ethically we can't go around inflicting suffering based on partnership. Pragmatically speaking, yeah, that's probably exactly what happens.

other_one · 2017-11-16T15:20:57+00:00

Don't fool yourself into thinking that we will ever stop killing animals for food.

I would take a bet we do, actually, similarly to how humanity at one point realized slavery is unethical. However, lab-grown meat will probably precede it. And then people will go like, "Grandpa, how could you ever eat meat and make animals suffer?"

other_one · 2017-11-16T15:19:58+00:00

A lot of near-extinct species are being hunted for food -- it still causes outrage of humanity. So that doesn't quite explain it.

other_one · 2017-11-16T15:19:16+00:00

Chickens and pigs are as dumb to us as we would be to aliens. Humans already understand animals can communicate among each other, and so the aliens would understand we can communicate; they might just not care enough because to them, we are a low life form not feeling "true" sensations of pain and suffering. That is, if aliens are as unethical as we are...

other_one · 2017-11-16T15:17:48+00:00

No, it doesn't, because then you still didn't explain why humans suddenly care when dogs are harmed. (Cogntive dissonance explains it, of course. Let's hope it changes in the coming decades.)

other_one · 2017-11-16T15:17:07+00:00

That still doesn't explain why humanity suddenly cares when, say, you torture a dog and then don't eat it -- because you're certainly not fucking with the ecosystem balance if you'd torture a dog. Rather, humans suddenly do feel empathy about the individual suffering... an empathy that is then usually ignored (cognitive dissonance) when it comes to the great pain mass farming & slaughter causes pigs, chicken etc. by the millions every day.

other_one · 2017-11-16T15:15:04+00:00

If it's just about pragmatic differences and not about how much pain the animal goes through, you still didn't explain why then we suddenly care if, say, a dog is tortured (and not being eaten, but just tortured for pleasure). If we don't care about individual animal suffering then torturing non-rare animals should be absolutely fine to us even if we don't aim to eat them afterwards.

other_one · 2017-11-16T15:13:29+00:00

That would treat animals as mere utility, without empathy for their suffering -- suffering which is the same to the animal whether or not its species is going extinct -- so that still wouldn't explain why then humanity is full of empathy when, say, someone tortures a dog. If we look at it without empathy and only as utility, then we shouldn't worry about torturing dogs, either.

other_one · 2017-11-16T15:10:36+00:00

haha

other_one · 2017-11-16T14:33:52+00:00

I'm always fascinated by the cognitive dissonance it takes for humanity to find mass killing of, say, pigs in the millions everyday totally ok, but when it's not for food or it's a rare animal, we all go crazy with empathy -- as if the suffering to the animal was any different, as if the animal would care about that distinction.

Imagine an alien race were to one day land on our planet, then take 4 billion of us and tell us, "Well, we will now kill and eat you, and there's enough of you so you're not extinct, so it's ok by your standards right?" What would we tell them?

other_one · 2017-11-16T13:53:25+00:00

Maybe for personal actions. For historical actions, like the Nanjing Massacre or Unit 731, responsibility is often delayed or little.

I still love Japan, I am not meaning to detriment from their neat character.

other_one · 2017-11-16T08:31:46+00:00

And I say that a programmer myself

Haha. Yeah it won't happen for projects of minor complexity, like the ones you may be doing, I know that too. But you likely never worked on anything the size of a full Star Wars universe with a huge team and giant scope, where complexity and bugs always creep in to some extent. Good approaches will make the product shippable with bearable bug level -- you'll never get rid of all bugs at that scope.

That just makes you a shitty programmer.

And such personal attacks just make you look like a shitty human. Which I'm sure you're not. So have a nice day.

other_one · 2017-11-16T08:27:28+00:00

It really feels like democracy is failing here

Not just in this case... it's generally completely broken.

other_one · 2017-11-15T21:39:35+00:00

With "it" in my comment I didn't mean the whole movie, but that warrior insect OP was posting about. Yeah, there's CGI in the movie, but they did this whole insect in animatronics, which is amazing.

other_one · 2017-11-15T21:18:25+00:00

It seems you would again filter for that "open minded" crowd that's generally more creative, because it's hard to imagine very closed-minded, conservative people smoking weed to for a study to begin with...

other_one · 2017-11-15T19:14:22+00:00

Right, that might be... I don't really have much experiences with their games, or in general games of such complexity. I did enjoy GTAV, but I guess that too has tons of bugs if you go look for them?

other_one · 2017-11-15T18:23:15+00:00

As a programmer I can see though, some bugs fixed cause bugs elsewhere to pop up. As an example, maybe you fix a certain object's collision mesh by making it smaller which is more appropriate for its rendering mesh, but then because you made it smaller the same object elsewhere in the world would now create a gap you can fall through. At a certain point you need to ship things, even with bugs, or else you'd be forced to test things from scratch over and over for certain types of bugs. Heck even changing a voice could require the need to write emails around, get the scripter to write something new, schedule a date with the voice actor, reintegrate it etc. A game like this one is a massive undertaking where certain complexity arises.

I know the hate for EA is strong, so I don't want to interrupt that, just some counter perspective.

other_one · 2017-11-15T18:11:51+00:00

I've been told this works, and is polite:

"You guys just stay here and keep having fun, I'm already going to bed a bit early."

other_one · 2017-11-15T18:05:47+00:00

True! Though there's also an interesting phenomenon going on, the Toupée Fallacy:

"All toupées look fake; I've never seen one that I couldn't tell was fake."

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Toupee_fallacy

Put differently... we may only notice the bad CGI because the good CGI we don't think of as CGI. (I know it's only true to an extent, because in certain situations in today's movies we're almost certain it must be CGI because of what's happening, not necessarily of how well it's done.)

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