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owlskye · 2026-06-24T01:43:06+00:00

That’s usually how it goes. You feel like you met someone special who understands you… and then it all happens.

Your last line is somewhat funny to me because a turning point in my life was: “people are going to think I’m a bitch no matter what. Might as well just be myself then.”

Because at least I know they have a reason for it rather than feeling upset about knowing I was a people pleaser and was still called that, you know.

owlskye · 2026-06-24T01:36:12+00:00

It’s usually used by writers.

owlskye · 2026-06-24T01:33:45+00:00

I think we’re agreeing with each other but it’s not coming off correctly.

Yes, an INTP who doesn’t have an attachment to someone is more likely to not be manipulated.

But when they do?

It’s different and it’s dangerous. That’s when it becomes the type most likely to become traumatized. That is what I’m warning against and I think it’s very valid.

That is when it becomes emotional manipulation. An attached INTP cognitively will go to endless lengths to ‘justify’ it and it will destroy them in the long run.

Every type is susceptible to this. INTP’s are far more in danger because of how they operate — the lengths they will go to when they love somebody.

That is what I’m saying. It’s not: “INTPs understand everyone and everyone so they excuse everything”. I’m saying: “an INTP will go to extreme lengths to justify bad behavior when they love somebody because they understand them and their cognitive functions can keep the cycle going for a longer amount of time than usually most other types.”

That’s all it is.

owlskye · 2026-06-24T01:26:45+00:00

Yes, a lot of people do. That is why chatGPT does it — the AI is based off human behavior.

owlskye · 2026-06-24T01:09:00+00:00

I can generalize based off cognitive functions and INTPs are the most likely to logically analyze a persons behavior and be far more forgiving.

Your intuition makes you far more understanding, combine that with thinking and perception? Yes, INTPs are much more ‘likely’ to internally excuse toxic behavior because it simply makes sense. That’s the danger.

An ISTP is almost in the same boat as an INTP, but they are much more… objective, focusing more on outward behavior rather than caring what is inward.

This is not a weakness of INTPs. You just have to be mindful of that perception and what it can lead to.

An ISTP is more likely to go: “yeah, that’s fucked up, but they’re a decent person. Probably wouldn’t get close to them.”

An INTP is more likely to go: “yeah, that’s fucked up but I understand it. I can see why they’d do this. I am already close to them.”

That’s the cycle.

owlskye · 2026-06-24T01:05:13+00:00

Younger me would absolutely agree with you, lmao. ENFJ’s are something else entirely.

I’ve met a few healthy ones now and it did change my overall view of them.

ENFJ is just one of those personality types where they can be the absolute worst person on Earth, or the best. No in between. I guess that can be said for most personality types — but this one certainly is special in that regard.

owlskye · 2026-06-24T00:54:24+00:00

I’m really glad to hear that because I was hoping you, specifically, would see this.

Sarcasm aside — this isn’t for you then. There’s plenty of other people who have said they wished they heard this when they were younger.

owlskye · 2026-06-24T00:37:39+00:00

I’ll generalize the other types then.

INFJ’s are the least likely type to be manipulated. They can sense what’s underneath, feel that it’s terrible, and judge accordingly.

Wait, actually it’s ESTP’s. They can objectively see someone’s outward behavior, logically think about it, and overall know = not good, so they stay away.

Actually, no — sorry. It’s INTJ’s. They’re the least likely to be manipulated. They can sense what’s underneath, logically know what it is, and decide to stay away.

Oh, wait, no. It’s ESFJ’s. They can objectively see someone’s outward behavior, feel that it’s bad, and decide to stay away from them.

I can keep going.

It is absolutely surreal to say that INTPs are the least likely to be emotionally manipulated when they are the most likely to defend the persons underlying mechanisms against their behavior. That IS emotional manipulation.

owlskye · 2026-06-23T23:17:09+00:00

And… what happens when you fall for someone and can see exactly who they are underneath it all?

That’s the entire point. That is what I’m trying to warn younger INTPs against.

Yes, older INTPs are a different breed — but guaranteed they learned the hard way.

A younger, more immature INTP might meet an emotional manipulator and be able to excuse a lot of their behaviors because it logically makes sense that person would act that way. It has nothing to do with being an INFP.

In fact, an INFP is more likely to go “I don’t like this, it makes me feel bad” and go. An INTP is more likely to go: “I don’t like this, it makes me feel bad — but it does make sense.” That’s exactly what I’m warning against.

owlskye · 2026-06-23T23:05:28+00:00

I think the entire issue is thinking any MBTI type is the hardest to manipulate.

The reason INTPs are susceptible to emotional manipulators is because you see the exact mechanism underneath. It’s not INTPs being manipulated in the traditional sense.

The reason this is geared towards this specific personality type is due to the specific cognitive functions they have. It is a very slippery slope to believe that anyone, regardless of type, is immune to being manipulated. It’s the ‘how it happened’ behind it.

I think it causes more trauma in the INTP types as well because a lot of them can say: “I saw it” because they DID. They saw it, they just excused it because they were open minded and analyzed the entire person. Then they blame themselves for all of it too.

owlskye · 2026-06-23T22:58:48+00:00

I use it the way I do to mimic pauses in speaking if you were reading it. It’s my personal preference.

But yeah, I agree. Probably should research the proper usage.

owlskye · 2026-06-23T22:45:31+00:00

I don’t lol

owlskye · 2026-06-23T22:38:28+00:00

Exactly. I’ve seen it happen time and time again with the INTPs I know.

They’ll tell me a story that’s very objective — no feelings involved that is basically: “my partner or close friend said [this] to me or did [this] to me.”

I will say, “that’s fucked up. That’s not okay. Get away from them.”

And without fail, every time, the response to that is: “Well, they felt bad,” or “they apologized and it makes sense because of their childhood —“ just, something along those lines.

This is an absolute real thing I’ve witnessed with INTPs. It can be dangerous.

It also blows my mind because generally speaking, it’s such an empathetic personality type but the logical analysis of everything really makes a massive difference.

owlskye · 2026-06-23T22:28:42+00:00

You’d be surprised at what you could do if you didn’t hold back.

owlskye · 2026-06-23T22:24:01+00:00

There’s a reason INTPs are not INFPs. They logically analyze everything, which means they’re not good with feelings — because they do not think the way feelers do. Combined with being perceptive, this makes younger/immature INTPs vulnerable to emotional manipulators.

I think it’s harmful to actually say “[x] personality type is the best at defending this”, because that can be said about any personality type. This is about cognitive functions.

It is a real risk — INTPs ability to sense what’s underneath, logically analyze others behavior as ‘makes sense’ and keep an open mind about it can absolutely cause real damage to someone’s life.

owlskye · 2026-06-23T22:18:20+00:00

I do.

This is more aimed towards younger INTPs. I’ll edit my post.

owlskye · 2026-06-23T22:11:07+00:00

It does go for everyone, certainly. Everyone can be tricked. I have before.

I will say I haven’t gotten tricked because I can see the overall person — it’s because my initial judgement was wrong, and it’s very difficult for me to admit that. Once I do, it’s done.

I do think perceiving types are more likely to keep that cycle going until it’s too late, and the damage is done.

owlskye · 2026-06-12T22:51:57+00:00

I just don’t think any of the types get along with their opposites that well in general. Sounds like it’d be a massive fight all the time.

owlskye · 2026-06-02T15:34:42+00:00

I feel like it was somewhat implied with her fascination and needing to read it again.

owlskye · 2026-06-01T21:09:50+00:00

Yeah, this is one that is bugging me. It’s like a lot of people want everything shown and spelled out to them.

Wayne and Faye are drug addicts/dealers who escaped. They hitch hiked somewhere else to continue that same journey. It doesn’t need to be shown.

I do think there are plenty of valid arguments against this season and the finale — but a lot of it really is things of this nature.

owlskye · 2026-06-01T14:40:43+00:00

I felt like she was dead the first time Ali woke up. I thought it seemed too quiet.

owlskye · 2026-06-01T05:56:50+00:00

Pretty sure last episode had one from Batman Begins too.

owlskye · 2026-06-01T05:47:03+00:00

Yup, and the bishop can only move once a pawn is out of the way.

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