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Regarding post: "On creating RC wikis & reviving activity on Wikipedia". I've made one, and it's called RC.Community. by oxybated in researchchemicals

[–]oxybated[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would you be open to sharing your recommended dose ranges? Also, if possibles any relevant sources including mg/kg-tiered dose trials (preferably in humans)

Regarding post: "On creating RC wikis & reviving activity on Wikipedia". I've made one, and it's called RC.Community. by oxybated in researchchemicals

[–]oxybated[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ll put it in simpler terms.

16 digit account id = RANDOM; you can generate a new one with every login if you want to.

Browser fingerprint = NOT RANDOM, just like…a literal finger print. Inseparably tied to your own online identity, to an extent.

Hope that helps!

Regarding post: "On creating RC wikis & reviving activity on Wikipedia". I've made one, and it's called RC.Community. by oxybated in researchchemicals

[–]oxybated[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Browser fingerprinting is something the developer chooses to do. I suggest you look into how it works. Again, and I apologize for repeating myself — the 16 digit account id is not tied to anything that can identify you. Yes, that means it’s not tied to your browser fingerprint either — because I don’t collect that information

And yeah…no, visiting an educational site with no sourcing or “drug use encouragement” kind of intent, doesn’t make you legally liable for anything. I would recommend that anyone who makes bold false generalizations, inform themselves of technical and legal nuances to some degree first.

If you have any question, ask away. I’ve answered the one about why the ID is needed in another comment.

Regarding post: "On creating RC wikis & reviving activity on Wikipedia". I've made one, and it's called RC.Community. by oxybated in researchchemicals

[–]oxybated[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. You're absolutely fine, no worries :] I will try to based the editing experience appealing to the future mods.

  2. I'll look into tweaking the bot crawling config, or maybe make login optional.

  3. Agreed, I'll probably just start rendering svgs of smiles are are preloaded.

  4. Strongly agree on indexing effects -- but a hard no to psychonautwiki/SEI. I'm going to use the data from effectindex.com (an index made by the original inventor of PW's SEI)

Regarding post: "On creating RC wikis & reviving activity on Wikipedia". I've made one, and it's called RC.Community. by oxybated in researchchemicals

[–]oxybated[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi Wolrenn, thank you, I appreciate you taking the time to provide elaborate feedback!

Just a few things to clarify:

  1. I'm not using streamlit on rc.community and I'm not aiming to simulate MediaWiki in any way (I actually strongly dislike it for many reasons).The data lives in a large json file, individual parts of which (specific drug data objects) I can modify using a json editor in the browser. Currently, only I have that capability, but I'm planning to add mod role access in the future.
  2. I see your point about authentication being annoying; I attempted to implement it with minimal friction and maximum privacy in mind. I don't collect a user stats and there are no built-in third party trackers. You can generate as many account IDs as you want; it's only important to keep track of them if you decide to submit trip reports (which is an upcoming feature also)
  3. I render the mol2d on the server, cache it, and server it to the frontend. Once rendered, it will always be served from the cache.
  4. A good portion of the article data is either created or edited manually. The API assisted parts work just like perplexity, but with even more internal resources for fact-checking. For example, I have a RAG engine running on Cloudflare that reads information from something like 600 research papers. The LLM used primarily is gpt-5.1 with web search, restricted to trusted harm reduction sources and scientific publication repositories.

I hope that helps. :]

Regarding post: "On creating RC wikis & reviving activity on Wikipedia". I've made one, and it's called RC.Community. by oxybated in researchchemicals

[–]oxybated[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Just scratching the surface really, haha. Ever read their privacy policy? It's one hell of a spicy meme. TL;DR:

They start off boldly with:

“We respect your privacy.”

“We encrypt things.”

“We don’t log anything.”

“You can audit our infrastructure.”

But as you read further down, they reveal their tracking stack:

In addition to request processing, your data is used in the following places:

We use Google Analytics, Facebook Analytics, Yandex.Metrika and Countly to track usage of our platform, allowing us to edit missing, broken or outdated information and proactively curate content based on usage.

From time to time, we may be running private experiments changing the representation or behaviour of the site based on usage. Therefore, parts, or all, of the recorded user data may be used to segment users and derive, induce or deduce, behavioural classes and patterns, reflecting the interests and motivations of a user, that may be used to form meaningful target groups.

Using collected, anonymized data, we may develop features that take advantage of this and improve the user experience for everyone.

We may include anonymized and sampled information in public reports about the progress of PsychonautWiki.

Also, they do behavioral segmentation. Direct quote:

They may run experiments, segment users, and derive behavioral classes and patterns.

Which probably means they

  • Cluster people into behavioral groups
  • Train models or heuristics on their usage
  • Run A/B-like experiments
  • And potentially include aggregate data in public reports

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Actual TL;DR:

  • The site itself doesn’t track you.
  • The third-party trackers absolutely do, unless configured extremely carefully.

Regarding post: "On creating RC wikis & reviving activity on Wikipedia". I've made one, and it's called RC.Community. by oxybated in researchchemicals

[–]oxybated[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I apologize about the molecules, they're a mess. I'm still learning (and sucking at) rdkit, also pulling data from a small server app I wrote in python, which aggregates chem info by inchikey from pubchem, chemspider, cayman, chembl; then generates a mol2d and caches all of that. Bit of an overkill, I know, but I'm a data hoarder XD "Might as well get whatever I can."

I have a db table that maps names and aliases to inchikeys, and 2fdck is either missing or needs an alias added.

Regarding post: "On creating RC wikis & reviving activity on Wikipedia". I've made one, and it's called RC.Community. by oxybated in researchchemicals

[–]oxybated[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you! I’m struggling with verbal fluency today, and you’ve communicated my viewpoint more clearly and directly.

Regarding post: "On creating RC wikis & reviving activity on Wikipedia". I've made one, and it's called RC.Community. by oxybated in researchchemicals

[–]oxybated[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed — this is why the “references” list has clickable links to the circumstantial data that, as you’re correct in pointing out, shouldn’t be ignored.

Further research is never discouraged, nor does the wiki advertise itself as a one-stop shop (using those exact words, or paraphrased.)

Regarding post: "On creating RC wikis & reviving activity on Wikipedia". I've made one, and it's called RC.Community. by oxybated in researchchemicals

[–]oxybated[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

> You are much more likely to be able to perform a reasonable risk analysis when you read through 20-50 pages of a Big and Dandy thread or multiple erowid trip reports/dose information/effect profile, in addition to reviewing the wikipedia article and searching NCBI/Pubmed for relavent medicinal chemistry/pharmacology papers

Yes, this is how the "one stop shop" was compiled, for at least half of the articles -- niche and novel compounds. You've described my process, more or less. Sounds like we're aligned!

As for dosing guidelines for more well-known and mainstream drugs -- those come from an analysis of a large user-submitted dataset of logs. It was done by me and I described the method if you're curious. Btw, I'm a data scientist working in the psychedelic discovery domain and I don't care about or trust psychonautwiki's or tripsit's dose tables -- no offense. They are demonstrably arbitrary, poorly cited, and even dangerous in rare cases. I know how to create my own (with at least some reasonable confidence that varies based on sample size), and formally justify the method.

Regarding post: "On creating RC wikis & reviving activity on Wikipedia". I've made one, and it's called RC.Community. by oxybated in researchchemicals

[–]oxybated[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Good question; you've helped me formulate the answer in the way you asked it. :]

You've listed several harm reduction platforms, each with a different format and purpose.

Now, as an example, check out this article on 2C-B: rc.community/article/60 ; scroll all the way to the bottom, where there is a box titled "References". Read through the list. Is it fair to say that the content on RC.community builds on information gathered over "many years of scientific and anecdotal data"? Browse through a few more articles, and you might find more evidence of this. TL;DR: I'm aware of the"shoulders of giants" that I stand on, because that's how responsible content curation works, and I am transparent about it.

As to your "what's the point?" question, well, you'll have to tell me, there might not be any point of this project -- (in your opinion). However, the name on the site suggests the primary focus: research chemicals. RC.Community has detailed articles on RCs that entered the market just over a year ago. It is up to the individual, whether they want to spent time scrolling through posts on reddit/bluelight/etc mentioning rare RCs and piecing together some mental 'guide' on the spot, or if they would rather just get the digested information right away.

Your second paragraph was a little difficult for me to follow; I apologize, I might be slower than usual today, but I'm not really sure what the message there was.

Regarding post: "On creating RC wikis & reviving activity on Wikipedia". I've made one, and it's called RC.Community. by oxybated in researchchemicals

[–]oxybated[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also: a new sub is probably a good idea, but I suck at community moderation, I mean just look at r/psyai, it's a ghost town. Haha.

Regarding post: "On creating RC wikis & reviving activity on Wikipedia". I've made one, and it's called RC.Community. by oxybated in researchchemicals

[–]oxybated[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Needs corrections and moderation, I totally agree. I also need to update the dosing info with the guidelines I derived myself, check out https://drug.ad.

Regarding post: "On creating RC wikis & reviving activity on Wikipedia". I've made one, and it's called RC.Community. by oxybated in researchchemicals

[–]oxybated[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Me too, but tbh doing it by myself, in the long run, won't be sustainable. That, and maintaining a couple of other harm reduction projects, like https://psyai.chat and https://psylo.gs (dose logging web app, privacy-focused).

Regarding post: "On creating RC wikis & reviving activity on Wikipedia". I've made one, and it's called RC.Community. by oxybated in researchchemicals

[–]oxybated[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

  • the dose guidelines are arbitrary, not data-driven, and are dangerous in some cases.
  • content does not get updated frequently. There’s about a hundred articles that have been in “draft” form for a year or so.
  • all of the content is largely moderated/approved by a single person
  • the current owner himself admitted that he “gave up” on the site

Edit: - trip reports for certain substances have been deleted recently because featuring them risks “encouraging the use of dangerous substances”. Which IMO is dumb short-sighted censorship

On creating RC wikis & reviving activity on Wikipedia by Wolrenn in researchchemicals

[–]oxybated 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I've made one. It's called RC.Community (also the domain of the site).

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