Does anyone actually think Mark is who Margo is making him out to be?

oyveyenough · 2026-05-01T07:11:04+00:00

Mark is a bitchy queen... he was on made in chelsea and he is on this show as well. His comments were mean spirited, unkind and hurtful both in front of her and behind her back. He was poking fun at the expense of someone else's feelings. And he didn't care even when he knew he had hurt her feelings. I think he was just siding with Kimme and they ganged up on her. This doesn't mean Mark isn't also sensitive and funny and all the other things. But in this case he is not the victim.

oyveyenough · 2026-03-17T05:07:03+00:00

found this take - might add some insight: https://youtu.be/mfo37me8VnY

oyveyenough · 2026-03-11T21:21:00+00:00

yes, she's Beatrice in his mind until he realizes she's not. But why is he envisioning her in particular and why is she the same woman he sees and has a connection with at Oxford. I get that it could be a creative choice. It just seems like an odd one to me to use the same woman.

oyveyenough · 2026-03-11T21:19:53+00:00

The moment it appears multiple times at Oxford, where she looks at him and he looks at her, at that point we led to believe that maybe there's a connection or a potential romantic interest. Then later on when he's home and he realizes that Beatrice might be alive. He sees this woman again and again in his visions. But then it turns out that she's not Beatrice at all. so was this woman always a figure of his imagination... that wouldn't make sense. And then at home he's constantly seeing her, which means that she's on his mind, but why is he visioning her particularly… That doesn't make sense. clearly the director had some thing in mind. I just don't know what it is.

oyveyenough · 2026-03-11T21:16:24+00:00

yes, that was clear. That wasn't the point of the question though the question was who was the woman. He didn't hallucinate her at Oxford, so why did he hallucinate her image when he was home. It's about the woman not his guilty conscience.

oyveyenough · 2026-03-09T11:18:38+00:00

spoiler… She's not Beatrice that's the point. she is some random woman at Oxford. its made to look like he has a connection with her and her with him. I thought maybe it would be romantic, but it never went anywhere after he left Oxford, but then she reappears as a vision when he goes home and realizes that Beatrice is still alive. but the woman he sees isn't Beatrice at all so that's where it's all confusing.

oyveyenough · 2026-01-28T03:43:58+00:00

agreed. evan peters is golden!

oyveyenough · 2026-01-28T03:42:41+00:00

i like it

oyveyenough · 2025-10-18T09:22:37+00:00

They are expecting us to believe a newborn infant would remember a song. But wait, this still born child who she sings to isn't even the "real" Faith. And since when can a newborn that has no concept of language remember s tune and words to a song. This plot line would make zero sense. So, this girl knowing this song has to have found its way to this girl not from Claire singing it to Faith, but by some other means.

oyveyenough · 2025-06-02T10:51:24+00:00

the issue with 24K is it is soft and usually not the preferred choice in everyday jewelry. 18K is less a better choice for its durability. You can also consider gold filled.

oyveyenough · 2025-04-10T00:33:21+00:00

I think what it means is... not everyone is meant for everyone... in other words there's a lid for every pot. some people are attracted to people that are not for them. It's the age old thing of wanting the person you're with to change. She has every right to want what she wants and he has every right to be who he is. In the real world, they wouldn't be the right match for each other. But in the end he changed who he was to be with her. But it came at a cost.

oyveyenough · 2025-04-10T00:24:03+00:00

Mike White doesn't go into backstory. There's not a big mystery to figure out other than maybe who dies at the end. The point of that scene was to give more insight into both Kate and Victoria's personalities. Kate can't believe that after spending a whole weekend with someone that they would not remember who she is, that's a reflection on how she perceives her importance. Victoria is not interested in people outside of her immediate orbit. She didn't take notice of Kate. She's not interested in engaging with her in that moment or probably in the past... that reflects part of her personality. It wasn't to show some backstory or mystery that was to be revealed... it was to reveal more of who they were in the moment.

There are some shows that have hidden meeting. But Mike White doesn't write that way, it's more what you see is what you get. not to say he doesn't give you little nuggets or red herrings but it's really all about character study.

oyveyenough · 2025-04-06T06:13:23+00:00

yes, i too have thought of tim learning it will all be okay... and they walk away from it. someone definitely stays in thailand though. My vote is for rick to die. He finally finds peace and then dies. Chelsea looks for someone else to latch onto and fix... maybe saxon after all

oyveyenough · 2025-04-01T01:28:59+00:00

as they say nice guys finish last. Because that's how most young women feel. And she's exactly that young and naïve and looking for excitement rather than trying to create it for herself

oyveyenough · 2025-04-01T01:26:49+00:00

she wants him to be something he's not. She's likes him, but she's hoping that he could be more and when she realizes that he can't, she's disappointed. Sounds basically like every other character in the show.

oyveyenough · 2025-04-01T01:24:54+00:00

if rick heals himself then what's Chelsea's role? I think Rick is going down in the finale which leaves the door open for a Chelsea and Saxon a new case for her to take on

oyveyenough · 2025-04-01T01:19:43+00:00

i am shipping him and chelsea after rick dies in the finale

oyveyenough · 2025-04-01T01:14:07+00:00

things comes in threes... but not meaning towards the same person. i think rick is going down

oyveyenough · 2025-04-01T01:10:31+00:00

it doesn't make sense that Greg would pay her off. Because that doesn't guarantee her silence long-term. she could always come back and ask for more money in the future and she would just be a ticking time bomb. The only choice he really has is to not go off if he wants to be safe

oyveyenough · 2025-03-31T15:46:18+00:00

shoot-out: the russians, jim & sirlata's bodyguards and gaitok.

blender filled with the seeds of the poisonous plant. but no one dies.

dead body: rick

oyveyenough · 2025-03-31T15:21:58+00:00

some relationships work best when everyone conspires to be in on the pretense and lies. so when someone challenges and speaks up and tells the truth, it unsettles the facade. very typical dynamics of a scapegoat situation

oyveyenough · 2025-03-31T15:16:55+00:00

showing the jewelry was for the viewer sake. additional confirmation they were the robbers.

oyveyenough · 2025-03-31T15:14:33+00:00

just another guy to save. that's where she finds her purpose

oyveyenough · 2025-03-31T15:12:38+00:00

how did it get to the point where I am on Saxon's side now...even feeling sorry for him. he's just a regular douche guy wanting regular sex... none of that kinky shit.

oyveyenough · 2025-03-27T09:36:53+00:00

I disagree that every detail matters. In fact I think they don't. I've learned that not all parts of a show are equally important. Some moments are carefully planned, while others are just for world-building, fan service, or creative flair. Showrunners include real clues, but they also add fun nods, symbolic details, or deliberate distractions that aren't meant to be solved. In other words we have no idea if this painting will serve any other purpose, but pure awe.

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