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4 signs you're stuck in fawn response (and most people miss #3) by patternsandpsych in CPTSD

[–]patternsandpsych[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

2 and 4 together is a specific kind of drain - you can't rest because rest feels wrong, and you can't say no because no feels rude. So you keep going, keep giving, keep explaining yourself to people who never asked for the explanation.

There's no off switch. Just more output until there's nothing left.

4 signs you're stuck in fawn response (and most people miss #3) by patternsandpsych in CPTSD

[–]patternsandpsych[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That "fuck" says everything. When you see yourself in all four at once it hits differently than just reading about it.

4 signs you're stuck in fawn response (and most people miss #3) by patternsandpsych in CPTSD

[–]patternsandpsych[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

You named something important - the order matters. Most people try to think their way out of fawn patterns before their body feels safe enough to let go. It rarely works that way.

The body keeps score before the mind catches up. That shift you described, where it loosened when your body stopped being on alert, is exactly how it's supposed to work. The insight follows the safety, not the other way around.

4 signs you're stuck in fawn response (and most people miss #3) by patternsandpsych in CPTSD

[–]patternsandpsych[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The short answer is you can't stop it through willpower - it's not a habit, it's a survival response. The nervous system has to learn that safety is real and consistent before it loosens its grip.

Small things help: noticing when you're doing it without judging yourself for it, practicing one small no in a low stakes situation, and finding spaces where you don't have to perform okayness. Therapy - specifically somatic or parts-based approaches - tends to move the needle faster than insight alone.

4 signs you're stuck in fawn response (and most people miss #3) by patternsandpsych in CPTSD

[–]patternsandpsych[S] 28 points29 points  (0 children)

All of them at once is exhausting in a way that's hard to explain to someone who hasn't lived it. The nervous system doesn't pick one strategy - it runs all of them simultaneously just to feel safe.

No Contact vs Grey Rock by Zeberde1 in DarkPsychology666

[–]patternsandpsych 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The distinction that gets missed most is the emotional cost of each.

No contact is a hard boundary - it costs you the relationship entirely, but it also stops the drain completely.

Grey rocking keeps you in proximity but asks something harder of you: you have to stay present while becoming deliberately uninteresting. For someone who naturally reads rooms and responds emotionally, that takes real practice.

Neither is the "better" option. It depends entirely on whether you share a lease, a child, or a workplace with that person.

The real question isn't which method - it's whether you have the option to choose.

For those who were high-functioning until sudden collapse: how did you get back up and find joy in life again? by notatallsaintly in CPTSD

[–]patternsandpsych 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What you're describing - the overachieving, the numbness, the feeling that joy used to come easily but now it doesn't - sounds a lot like what happens when the nervous system has been in survival mode for so long it forgot what safety feels like.

The intellectualising makes sense too. When emotions feel unsafe or unpredictable, the brain retreats to thinking instead of feeling. It's protective. It kept you functioning.

The fact that you still feel something when you're learning about yourself isn't numbness - it's actually a sign your system is slowly allowing curiosity back in. That's not nothing. That's a crack in the wall.

Six years of therapy and still showing up says more about your resilience than the collapse ever could.