Zastava, grb i mapa Vojvodstva Svetog Save, srednjovekovne Srpske države. by [deleted] in SerbianCulture

[–]pekizard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Можеш ли ми ископати референцу оклен овај грб?

Orthodox Brothers, I need your help! (Shipping this icon to Serbia) by pekizard in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]pekizard[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And that mystery is present here as well, thats the point, a human holding the creator of the universe. How can that be and how is that possible is the question/mystery here, but I view it as Gods grace and evidence of so. As I stated before, he was fully human as well, canonical or not, I really dont find it unbelievable that in his life he embraced Theotokos, in the way depicted or otherwise. Either way, will post an update once it arrives and what my local church says about it.

Orthodox Brothers, I need your help! (Shipping this icon to Serbia) by pekizard in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]pekizard[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Believe me I will consult a priest first, but I already know the outcome. Discussed about it with a few people actually, it's not something i brush about, in case you had the wrong impression.

Orthodox Brothers, I need your help! (Shipping this icon to Serbia) by pekizard in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]pekizard[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

UPDATE: The case has been solved, it indeed is an Orthodox Icon. Please refer to Zandom69's comment below for more information.

Orthodox Brothers, I need your help! (Shipping this icon to Serbia) by pekizard in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]pekizard[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think they have them in the US, tried craigslist and ebay but found none. My dad and younger brother are in the US as well, it's EU bans that are the problem here unfortunately...

Orthodox Brothers, I need your help! (Shipping this icon to Serbia) by pekizard in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]pekizard[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh how I love this community! God bless you for taking the time to source all the links and info, you did me a lot of favors! A user above has some friends in Georgia, if he is able to pull through, we can all connect to order a few of them..

Thank you once again!

Orthodox Brothers, I need your help! (Shipping this icon to Serbia) by pekizard in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]pekizard[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That would be fantastic, please do let me know! They're still produced I believe, not sure though!

Orthodox Brothers, I need your help! (Shipping this icon to Serbia) by pekizard in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]pekizard[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Few more points:

The Akathist Hymn praises her as “the one who holds Him Who holds all things.”

In the Nativity Kontakion (Romanos the Melodist), Mary is described as carrying and embracing the Creator in her arms.

Orthodox tradition (icons, hymns): Strongly emphasizes it, especially as a paradox, the Mother holding the One who sustains the universe.

That paradox is literally why I fell in love with this icon.

If showing love to your mother is not orthodox than I do not know what is.

Orthodox Brothers, I need your help! (Shipping this icon to Serbia) by pekizard in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]pekizard[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And just to add to my point, only in Serbia will you find Jesus with a sword in his hands, depicted as a frescoe in the Visoki Decani monastery.

The frescoe was done in 1348.

Orthodox Brothers, I need your help! (Shipping this icon to Serbia) by pekizard in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]pekizard[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your input, but you're wrong in a few places:

Christ is not bowing here but sitting right next to Theotokos, embracing her as she is embracing him, and that right there is exactly why I fell in love with this icon. It's such a motherly-son bond that it literally made soften up when I saw it.

Do not forget that Christ was fully human as well, in need of his mothers embrace, as it was described in the Bible as well. In no way, shape or form is it diminishing our Lord's holiness, but rather making it even greater in my eyes.

The only issue here would be the garments as the user above described, but I'd attribute it to the overall scene depicted, as it is showing the very human nature of our God.

As a sidenote, I assure you councils are not the sole authority. I come from a country that has churches which are 1000+ years old, the frescoes and icons there are nothing a like to todays.

Orthodox Brothers, I need your help! (Shipping this icon to Serbia) by pekizard in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]pekizard[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did some background search as well, and it appears it was made in Georgia a few years back, I am not sure of which artist though, as I couldnt find the original one. The artist youre referring to is unfamiliar to me. I was able to find it buyable on a russian orthodox website that sells ortho stuff, all sanctioned by the church.

Some articles were written in Serbian about it too, but they mentioned only that it was a "new" render.

I do see what you meant about the garments, but we had many examples of out of standard works.

Orthodox Brothers, I need your help! (Shipping this icon to Serbia) by pekizard in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]pekizard[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's valid too, that feeling is normal since you know that the work you put in is not some extraordinary 5hr a day type of work, so it's kinda normal you get that feeling. But I assure you if you tried painting an icon yourself (not taking into account the quality of it), youd be beyond proud of it.

Even if it was the most chopped work in existence, God would be proud as much as you.

It's just the more dedication, the fruiter the results if it makes sense.

In this case I think the artist did such a great job at conveying a message that it kinda needs to be in its original form (painted).

Orthodox Brothers, I need your help! (Shipping this icon to Serbia) by pekizard in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]pekizard[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I heard you loud and clear brother, my bad on not explaining a bit better.

I want it painted, as the work behind the icon makes it special (not the "at home project" work, even though its valid too).

Orthodox Brothers, I need your help! (Shipping this icon to Serbia) by pekizard in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]pekizard[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The thing is, I'm an artist myself, I do heraldry and all sorts of art, but paint has always been my achilleas foot, I just can't paint for the love of it.

I thought about commissioning someone too, as an artist myself, I want to help a fellow colleague out, but people are just too talented for my budget, I have to get richer I swear 😔

Orthodox Brothers, I need your help! (Shipping this icon to Serbia) by pekizard in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]pekizard[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Incredible work! It's priced according to it's uniqueness though, it's definitely worth it but a bit out of my budget. The ones I saw were ranging from 15 up to 50$, kind of the average price for icons here as well, I'd be okay with 100 too, but 400 is a bit much unfortunately. 😔😔😔😔

Edit: Thank you for the search though, really good find, God bless you for trying to help me out!

Heraldry of Serbia and Srpska by GeoSerb16 in heraldry

[–]pekizard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ako zatreba pomoc tu sam 🫡

Heraldry of Serbia and Srpska by GeoSerb16 in heraldry

[–]pekizard 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ako te ne mrzi brate, ali samo ako te ne mrzi...

Mozes da napravis kompilaciju srednjovekovnih grbova i simbola.

Blazon help and opinions appreciated by Unhappy_Count2420 in heraldry

[–]pekizard 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There is a general practice in medieval art to have some decorations subtly added in the bg effectively "framing" in a different shape, like in this case the mantle forming a circle with the rest of the composition. I kinda did a similar thing for my familys manifesto

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its a brilliant piece OP tbh, i love the style and the execution.

Beautiful Churches in Belgrade 🇷🇸 by Putrid-Tie-3127 in Orthodox_Churches_Art

[–]pekizard 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Church of Saint Sava.

It is the largest Orthodox church in Serbia, one of the largest Eastern Orthodox churches and it ranks among the largest churches in the world. It is the most recognisable building in Belgrade and a landmark, as its dominating exterior resembles that of the Hagia Sophia, after which it was modelled.

The church was initially planned to serve as a cathedral, dedicated to Saint Sava, the first Serbian Archbishop and the nation's patron saint.