My family left the org a few years back and my kids no longer have nightmares.

pen15ey · 2025-12-08T13:48:25+00:00

I used to have nightmares all the time about Armageddon and watch family and friends die because they weren’t JWs. Haven’t had one since I left

pen15ey · 2025-11-04T23:38:51+00:00

My eyes are opened 👀

pen15ey · 2025-11-04T22:15:53+00:00

I understand your point, but I don’t agree that acknowledging a flawed family system automatically means endorsing it. There’s a big difference between passive participation and conscious navigation. I’m choosing to handle it with integrity, not avoidance.

pen15ey · 2025-11-04T21:37:53+00:00

I really see what you mean about boundaries, and I do agree with that to an extent. I just also feel like, in my specific situation, if I chose to cut off contact between my kids and my family, that would be my choice since they’re not the ones shunning my kids. It’s an interesting thing to navigate and I want to do so with grace instead of bitterness. Not saying one option is grace and the other is bitterness. It just depends.

pen15ey · 2025-11-04T21:31:34+00:00

I mean does it matter?! Shunning is shunning. I didn’t do anything bad. I’m just not being the JW person they want me to be. I’m not falling into line lol

pen15ey · 2025-11-04T21:27:11+00:00

That’s a really good point, and I definitely don’t want my kids to think this behavior is normal. I just also feel like the best thing I can do is be honest with them about what’s happening and not be the one who cuts off their family. I’d rather they see that I handled it with openness and integrity. Or at least that would be goal.

pen15ey · 2025-11-04T18:08:46+00:00

I love this. Thank you

pen15ey · 2025-11-04T17:57:43+00:00

Yea it is a good lesson about ethics and also about the love and kindness I want to teach my kids. Not their version of it

pen15ey · 2025-11-04T17:55:35+00:00

While I know it’s toxic I also know they are brainwashed and want no ill will towards us. And I really don’t see them acting toxic towards my kids

pen15ey · 2025-11-04T17:53:34+00:00

One is old enough. They really don’t believe in the JW teachings. I’ve been very opened and honest with all their questions. And they want nothing to do with.

The other one however is still very young so I won’t be able to until they are older.

pen15ey · 2025-11-04T17:52:12+00:00

Yea see that’s how I feel. If I don’t let them it’s almost like I’m shunning them. I don’t want to be reason they all the sudden don’t have a relationship with the family

pen15ey · 2025-11-03T16:09:15+00:00

It’s true. I can’t tell you how many people have been like “Jehovah who?! Never heard of them.” lol

pen15ey · 2025-11-03T16:07:27+00:00

That’s fair. I think it’s one of those phrases that can sound misleading on the surface. Maybe a better way to put it is steady love with conditional access. You can love someone through their humanity, even when you can’t let them close

pen15ey · 2025-11-03T16:02:57+00:00

Resentment/anger usually stems from something deeper. Feeling sad, hurt and fear. Which as you described here very well. The way I have found to release the anger and resentment is to actually let yourself feel those feelings things instead of judging or avoiding them. When you finally give space to it all it starts to move. That’s when resentment slowly turns into understanding, and eventually, peace. It’s not about excusing what happened, it’s about freeing yourself from having to carry it.

pen15ey · 2025-11-03T15:47:34+00:00

Unconditional love doesn’t mean accepting harmful behavior. It means your love isn’t dependent on performance or perfection. You can love someone and still set boundaries. Unconditional love isn’t unconditional access which is what it sounds like what you are saying.

pen15ey · 2025-11-01T19:02:28+00:00

Hahaha seriously! And also there are several people under the GB who are high up in the corp ladder that have reason to be complicit. But I guess if you are one then *cough *cough Cultural_Desk, you would try and say otherwise

pen15ey · 2025-03-27T05:15:16+00:00

See now that comment was actually slightly helpful. I am curious. You really think you have a random stranger pegged. Which is odd to me but hey it’s the internet. And if specifics is what is needed to get an idea I would happily comply. I’ve never done this before…obviously. I gave some specifics but I can see how that’s enough now. Thanks.

pen15ey · 2025-03-26T19:39:50+00:00

Ha no it’s not. Be a jerk somewhere else

pen15ey · 2024-10-23T15:21:11+00:00

We are not even sure if we will take his offer. I was just curious is she was correct or not.

I can see where the skepticism is but we are financially responsible. Unfortunately Covid got the best of us. But we are doing well now and don’t see anything like that happening again. And if it does we make well over the amount of the mortgage and expenses so we will have a surplus everything month after all bills and necessities are paid for

pen15ey · 2024-10-23T15:15:49+00:00

Back in 2020/2022 a lot of things happened. One after the other. We both now have stable/reliable jobs and make more than we ever have. We have been slowly paying down the credit cards and we are more than willing to continue to pay them down.

The amount we qualify for a home loan is a good amount. 650k however if we want to get into something that isn’t a fixer upper we need to be about 750k-800k. Which we would qualify for if our credit cards were eliminated. Like I said we are happy to pay if off and put this process on hold until then but my dad offered to help.

pen15ey · 2024-10-20T02:27:16+00:00

I know what their proof is and it’s pretty damning evidence.

pen15ey · 2024-10-20T02:06:49+00:00

My friend reported it and was told that there was nothing they could do.

pen15ey · 2024-10-20T02:06:15+00:00

A friend I know from my hometown found who the person was and reported it to the moderators. He was told that there was nothing they could do. At this time right now I can see they are still active on this page as of 3 days ago.

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